crzymdups wrote:IrishKnickFan wrote:it would be funny that toronto is now stuck with fields who they probably didnt even want
+1
i think teams should get penalized for drastically overpaying RFAs. raptors should have to send the knicks a second round pick or something.
Can't they just retract their offer? FA period hasn't begun yet and no written offers have been made, right?
Bonn1997 wrote:crzymdups wrote:IrishKnickFan wrote:it would be funny that toronto is now stuck with fields who they probably didnt even want
+1
i think teams should get penalized for drastically overpaying RFAs. raptors should have to send the knicks a second round pick or something.
Can't they just retract their offer? FA period hasn't begun yet and no written offers have been made, right?
yes they can if they were smart the would do a S&T with Calderon and Fields to get Landry at a lower price. Although NY does not have the room to even do that because Jose salary goes up next year. Never mind.
It sucks seeing teams get better and us locked into long term contracts with no flexibility to do anything and a franchise that has 1 playoff win in 10 years. I think this is more frustrating than the Isiah years because at that point you expected to suck azz. Now we're supposed to be great but we're just OK and teams keep improving while we sit around handcuffed because of our contracts. This goes beyond Nash. It's just a damn shame. Think for a second if Lin, who still has a lot to prove, didn't break out for us. What would we be doing right now? Begging Kidd or Felton to be the starting point guard? This team has been built with such short-sightedness it's astonishing. It's too bad this team is my life. I can't quit them. Never will. It just sucks knowing you're not good enough to win a championship because you made the wrong moves at the wrong time.
JamesKPolk wrote:It sucks seeing teams get better and us locked into long term contracts with no flexibility to do anything and a franchise that has 1 playoff win in 10 years. I think this is more frustrating than the Isiah years because at that point you expected to suck azz. Now we're supposed to be great but we're just OK and teams keep improving while we sit around handcuffed because of our contracts. This goes beyond Nash. It's just a damn shame. Think for a second if Lin, who still has a lot to prove, didn't break out for us. What would we be doing right now? Begging Kidd or Felton to be the starting point guard? This team has been built with such short-sightedness it's astonishing. It's too bad this team is my life. I can't quit them. Never will. It just sucks knowing you're not good enough to win a championship because you made the wrong moves at the wrong time.
And everyone praised Donnie Walsh for being a good GM.
Bonn1997 wrote:JamesKPolk wrote:It sucks seeing teams get better and us locked into long term contracts with no flexibility to do anything and a franchise that has 1 playoff win in 10 years. I think this is more frustrating than the Isiah years because at that point you expected to suck azz. Now we're supposed to be great but we're just OK and teams keep improving while we sit around handcuffed because of our contracts. This goes beyond Nash. It's just a damn shame. Think for a second if Lin, who still has a lot to prove, didn't break out for us. What would we be doing right now? Begging Kidd or Felton to be the starting point guard? This team has been built with such short-sightedness it's astonishing. It's too bad this team is my life. I can't quit them. Never will. It just sucks knowing you're not good enough to win a championship because you made the wrong moves at the wrong time.
And everyone praised Donnie Walsh for being a good GM.
Everything was going well before the Carmelo trade. That started a domino effect of moves that would cripple the franchise. So no, not Donnie's fault.
JamesKPolk wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:JamesKPolk wrote:It sucks seeing teams get better and us locked into long term contracts with no flexibility to do anything and a franchise that has 1 playoff win in 10 years. I think this is more frustrating than the Isiah years because at that point you expected to suck azz. Now we're supposed to be great but we're just OK and teams keep improving while we sit around handcuffed because of our contracts. This goes beyond Nash. It's just a damn shame. Think for a second if Lin, who still has a lot to prove, didn't break out for us. What would we be doing right now? Begging Kidd or Felton to be the starting point guard? This team has been built with such short-sightedness it's astonishing. It's too bad this team is my life. I can't quit them. Never will. It just sucks knowing you're not good enough to win a championship because you made the wrong moves at the wrong time.
And everyone praised Donnie Walsh for being a good GM.
Everything was going well before the Carmelo trade. That started a domino effect of moves that would cripple the franchise. So no, not Donnie's fault.
I don't think they were going that wonderfully. I think Donnie's biggest decision - the Amare signing - was a clear long-term disaster. You and I can probably at least agree that Donnie's biggest mistake was choosing to work for Dolan, though.
Bonn1997 wrote:JamesKPolk wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:JamesKPolk wrote:It sucks seeing teams get better and us locked into long term contracts with no flexibility to do anything and a franchise that has 1 playoff win in 10 years. I think this is more frustrating than the Isiah years because at that point you expected to suck azz. Now we're supposed to be great but we're just OK and teams keep improving while we sit around handcuffed because of our contracts. This goes beyond Nash. It's just a damn shame. Think for a second if Lin, who still has a lot to prove, didn't break out for us. What would we be doing right now? Begging Kidd or Felton to be the starting point guard? This team has been built with such short-sightedness it's astonishing. It's too bad this team is my life. I can't quit them. Never will. It just sucks knowing you're not good enough to win a championship because you made the wrong moves at the wrong time.
And everyone praised Donnie Walsh for being a good GM.
Everything was going well before the Carmelo trade. That started a domino effect of moves that would cripple the franchise. So no, not Donnie's fault.
I don't think they were going that wonderfully. I think Donnie's biggest decision - the Amare signing - was a clear long-term disaster. You and I can probably at least agree that Donnie's biggest mistake was choosing to work for Dolan, though.
Amare was dominating before Carmelo showed up so you can't say it was a definitive disaster. for a while there the signing was genius. And so was Felton's. That's how you build a team, by focusing on the PG and C/PF positions first. We had the right idea but maybe not the right players.
Dolan, though, is a cancer. Damn shame we're stuck with him until he's off this planet.
Amare aas breaking down before melo showed up and the team played the worst defense in the league. Barely hovering over .500
gunsnewing wrote:Amare aas breaking down before melo showed up and the team played the worst defense in the league. Barely hovering over .500
Seriously, that team was together for longer than the 15 games we went 14-1. Also, Amare has not been the same player since those 15 games when he averaged 40+ mpg.
VCoug wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Amare aas breaking down before melo showed up and the team played the worst defense in the league. Barely hovering over .500
Seriously, that team was together for longer than the 15 games we went 14-1. Also, Amare has not been the same player since those 15 games when he averaged 40+ mpg.
No one's disagreeing with that. Good luck convincing people who said from the beginning to stay away from Amare because he was bad gamble that signing Amare actually made sense though.
Bonn1997 wrote:VCoug wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Amare aas breaking down before melo showed up and the team played the worst defense in the league. Barely hovering over .500
Seriously, that team was together for longer than the 15 games we went 14-1. Also, Amare has not been the same player since those 15 games when he averaged 40+ mpg.
No one's disagreeing with that. Good luck convincing people who said from the beginning to stay away from Amare because he was bad gamble that signing Amare actually made sense though.
Well, it seems like some people disagree. Personally, I believe that if Amare comes off the bench for 30 mpg everyone will be better off. Playing against the other teams' backups should help save his knees and back and playing him with Melo or Tyson will give us a more balanced team than playing him with Melo and Tyson.
