Knicks · Knicks sign Jason Kidd - will either match Lin or sign Felton?!!?! WHAT? (page 16)

AnubisADL @ 7/14/2012 10:29 PM
I cant wait for the season to start to see the backtracking. It will be epic.
Markji @ 7/14/2012 10:29 PM
MSG3 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Everyone calm down. No way we let go of Lin. Felton replaces Landry who is officially gone now.

I guarantee you we keep Lin.

Felton, Kidd and Lin will all share minutes at the 2 until Shump is back. Not the worst thing in the world to have as many PGs as we do who can play minutes at the 2.


I like this idea. We'll have 4 PGs and some of them will play the 2 guard. Until Shump comes back. Then trade either Felton (sorry Raymond, yes again) or even Lin so we don't have to deal with season 3 of his contract. And we get a good player in return so we don't just lose Lin for nothing.
RonRon @ 7/14/2012 10:31 PM
what do have to offer Felton a deal?

Gadzuric
2016 pick not even sure if we can trade this pick cause Denver has the better of it?
2016 2nd round pick
Rights to our euro players
Jeffries not sure if we have his early bird rights, he played 1.5 years with the Knicks since rejoining late in 2010 after acquiring Melo

next person possible is Iman Shumpert....

loweyecue @ 7/14/2012 10:32 PM
MSG3 wrote:
markvmc wrote:Did MSG3 just quote himself quoting himself? Is that an internet first?

Hahaha I did. Posts were coming in so quick I wanted to keep my train of thought.

LOL

s3231 @ 7/14/2012 10:34 PM
I strongly dislike Mike Woodson right now.....that's all I have to say.

If we lose Lin, will be absolutely furious.

VCoug @ 7/14/2012 10:34 PM
loweyecue @ 7/14/2012 10:34 PM
RonRon wrote:what do have to offer Felton a deal?

Gadzuric
2016 pick not even sure if we can trade this pick cause Denver has the better of it?
2016 2nd round pick
Rights to our euro players
Jeffries not sure if we have his early bird rights, he played 1.5 years with the Knicks since rejoining late in 2010 after acquiring Melo

next person possible is Iman Shumpert....

We could also S&T any one or combination of Bibby, JJ and Baron as long as they agree to go.

yellowboy90 @ 7/14/2012 10:34 PM
I think you guys are missing the real issue. It is not about Lin getting an offer. It is about Lin and Houston revising the orginal offer MY was going to match. Also, there are rumors about keeping both players and moving Kidd to the two.
gunsnewing @ 7/14/2012 10:34 PM
Why would the Knicks say they would match any offer and now get mad because Lin got $25mil when he could've got $30-40mil? I still think they will match
RonRon @ 7/14/2012 10:35 PM
loweyecue wrote:
RonRon wrote:what do have to offer Felton a deal?

Gadzuric
2016 pick not even sure if we can trade this pick cause Denver has the better of it?
2016 2nd round pick
Rights to our euro players
Jeffries not sure if we have his early bird rights, he played 1.5 years with the Knicks since rejoining late in 2010 after acquiring Melo

next person possible is Iman Shumpert....

We could also S&T any one or combination of Bibby, JJ and Baron as long as they agree to go.

how so? we don't have the early bird rights on Bibby and Baron though. We signed them both to 1 year vet min deals.
Unless the appeal on Novak changed the CBA...

We might have JJ, but I am not even sure with him because he joined late in 2010 after being waived by Houston, making him 1.5 years here at best.
We didn't claim JJ or Baron off waivers, we signed them to contracts after they cleared.
We need 2 years for early bird rights?

martin @ 7/14/2012 10:36 PM
Here's my thought: Knicks match Lin and perhaps take on Felton just to have guards.

Hope that Lin keeps up his Linsanity, then trade him to LAC when CP3 decides he wants out.

nixluva @ 7/14/2012 10:36 PM
VCoug wrote:
nixluva wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I'm telling you, once Lin went back and got a BIGGER offer sheet from the Rockets, Dolan probably went through the roof with anger.

This is a Dolan move.

Uh no. Its called Lin doesnt want to be here move. He didnt have to sign a toxic deal like that. Pretty sure Knicks would have matched the 4 yr 30 million dollar deal.

Lin just trying to cash in. I dont blame Lin and I dont blame the Knicks. Lin gets paid and Knicks get not be ripped off. Everyone wins.

What makes you think the 4 yr $30M was still avaialble once Morey made the switch? Oh wait - you have been trying to get rid of Lin from day 1.

Lets be clear. If Lin wanted to be here he could have taken what the Knicks offered like JR Smith.

Lin will now be "The Man" on that Houston team and sure to put up stats. He gets to showcase his game nightly and be the face f the franchise. This is a no brainer for someone trying to get PAID. This is a business and Lin isnt stupid.

If you love Lin so much get League Pass. I watch Jennings plenty and he slipped through the Knicks fingers too.

Knicks never made an offer to Lin. They told him to go get an offer first and then they'd match. I don't know if they expected this kind of Deal, but they did in fact tell Lin to seek offers 1st.

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! THINGS DONE CHANGED.

As for Woody, we have to remember that he is a LARRY BROWN, ball control, anti rookie style coach. Woody is as far from MDA as you can get coaching wise. Lin is an MDA style PG. The way the team is moving is towards a halfcourt slow it down offense and a tough D. I think that is what is going on here. The Knicks have completely gone away from anything resembling the team they were trying to be under MDA. Now they have Melo and so they add Kidd and it starts to make sense. This is why Woody wants Tyson and Amar'e to learn post moves. He's gonna institute a ground and pound style. No more run n gun, SSOL or anything like that. No more Guard penetration, PnR motion offense.

Then why are we bringing in Felton, a guy who put up his best numbers under MDA and then bitched and moaned about the slow-it-down style he had to play in Portland?

Felton played for Larry Brown! Just open your mind a bit to what I'm saying and you'll see how everything is lining up. If they let Lin go and bring in Felton, it's not because Felton played good for MDA. It's cuz Woody talked to Larry and got the scoop on how he played under him. Woody is gonna try and repeat what they did to win a title in Detroit. If you've seen Woody coach you can see he doesn't like letting his PG just play fast and loose like MDA does.

gunsnewing @ 7/14/2012 10:36 PM
Looks like we will have Lin, Kidd & Felton. So no Pablo?
loweyecue @ 7/14/2012 10:37 PM
RonRon wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
RonRon wrote:what do have to offer Felton a deal?

Gadzuric
2016 pick not even sure if we can trade this pick cause Denver has the better of it?
2016 2nd round pick
Rights to our euro players
Jeffries not sure if we have his early bird rights, he played 1.5 years with the Knicks since rejoining late in 2010 after acquiring Melo

next person possible is Iman Shumpert....

We could also S&T any one or combination of Bibby, JJ and Baron as long as they agree to go.

how so? we don't have the early bird rights on Bibby and Baron though. We signed them both to 1 year vet min deals.
Unless the appeal on Novak changed the CBA...

Read it somewhere, maybe Wrong? We have JJ's early bird?

martin @ 7/14/2012 10:37 PM
haha

https://twitter.com/LoHudKnicks/status/2...

If Grunwald's MIA-act today was to nab Felton, last decent PG on market, who HOU'd need, sans Lin, then ‪#Knicks‬ GM is straight-up ruthless.

yellowboy90 @ 7/14/2012 10:38 PM
I think you guys are missing the real issue. It is not about Lin getting an offer. It is about Lin and Houston revising the orginal offer MY was going to match. Also, there are rumors about keeping both players and moving Kidd to the two.
RonRon @ 7/14/2012 10:38 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Looks like we will have Lin, Kidd & Felton. So no Pablo?

we signed Pablo already, at the very least verbal agreement which is legally binding...

s3231 @ 7/14/2012 10:38 PM
martin wrote:Here's my thought: Knicks match Lin and perhaps take on Felton just to have guards.

Hope that Lin keeps up his Linsanity, then trade him to LAC when CP3 decides he wants out.

Hoping that is the case too (even though I'd still like to retain Lin.....for CP3 at least, would make sense).

If we let Lin walk for nothing though and get cheap all of a sudden, will be furious.

martin @ 7/14/2012 10:39 PM
RonRon wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Looks like we will have Lin, Kidd & Felton. So no Pablo?

we signed Pablo already, at the very least verbal agreement which is legally binding...

verbal agreements in the NBA are legally binding?

loweyecue @ 7/14/2012 10:39 PM
martin wrote:Here's my thought: Knicks match Lin and perhaps take on Felton just to have guards.

Hope that Lin keeps up his Linsanity, then trade him to LAC when CP3 decides he wants out.

Yep, already posted this.

gunsnewing @ 7/14/2012 10:39 PM
Markji wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Everyone calm down. No way we let go of Lin. Felton replaces Landry who is officially gone now.

I guarantee you we keep Lin.

Felton, Kidd and Lin will all share minutes at the 2 until Shump is back. Not the worst thing in the world to have as many PGs as we do who can play minutes at the 2.


I like this idea. We'll have 4 PGs and some of them will play the 2 guard. Until Shump comes back. Then trade either Felton (sorry Raymond, yes again) or even Lin so we don't have to deal with season 3 of his contract. And we get a good player in return so we don't just lose Lin for nothing.

Good point Knicks might be setting up for year 3 and incase Lin doesn't pan out. If he does pan out I hope he stays. Then 15mil won't be overpaying him

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