Knicks · Knicks sign Jason Kidd - will either match Lin or sign Felton?!!?! WHAT? (page 20)

VCoug @ 7/15/2012 12:08 AM
FeltonandAmare wrote:
markvmc wrote:
FeltonandAmare wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
FeltonandAmare wrote:Rumor: Lee and Morris from Rockets for Lin.

Rumor from who?

A buddy I know in Houston called me and told me he heard it on a Houston radio station.

How is that even possible, given that Lin signed the offer sheet? You can't match and trade, can you?

The rumor is that the offer sheet would be withdrawn and then the trade would happen instead. Not sure
how much validity is in it, just thought I'd pass it along.

The offer sheet can't be withdrawn, it was already signed by Lin.

loweyecue @ 7/15/2012 12:10 AM
VCoug wrote:
FeltonandAmare wrote:
markvmc wrote:
FeltonandAmare wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
FeltonandAmare wrote:Rumor: Lee and Morris from Rockets for Lin.

Rumor from who?

A buddy I know in Houston called me and told me he heard it on a Houston radio station.

How is that even possible, given that Lin signed the offer sheet? You can't match and trade, can you?

The rumor is that the offer sheet would be withdrawn and then the trade would happen instead. Not sure
how much validity is in it, just thought I'd pass it along.

The offer sheet can't be withdrawn, it was already signed by Lin.

And if it could be withdrawn then we should look to do the same for Melo and Amare.

gunsnewing @ 7/15/2012 12:11 AM
marc stein says we have til tues 11:59pm to match Lin's offer. Is that true or does the 3 day countdown start after the Knicks finally receive the offer sheet?
gunsnewing @ 7/15/2012 12:13 AM
Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
A league source confirmed that the Knicks have received the offer sheet from the Rockets

okay so tuesday is D day

blkexec @ 7/15/2012 12:16 AM
gunsnewing wrote:marc stein says we have til tues 11:59pm to match Lin's offer. Is that true or does the 3 day countdown start after the Knicks finally receive the offer sheet?

I heard the Knicks have the offer sheet. It was delivered to their hotel in Vegas. Not sure where I read that, but that could be why we have til Tuesday to match.

Caseloads @ 7/15/2012 12:34 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I will continue to hold out hope that we sign Felton and Lin. Not sure what PT either would get in that scenario. But we do need another guard.

Yeah, I'm going to hold out some hope here too, although I don't know what Dolan would be thinking signing 3 PGs who all had starters' minutes last year.

We ended the season with no pgs, so having a surplus is not a bad thing
CrushAlot @ 7/15/2012 12:46 AM
Resigning Lin doesn't suck for the Knicks until yr 3. That being said, getting ray, Kidd and the Italian makes it look like the Knicks are moving on.
crzymdups @ 7/15/2012 12:49 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Resigning Lin doesn't suck for the Knicks until yr 3. That being said, getting ray, Kidd and the Italian makes it look like the Knicks are moving on.

yep.

i think Lin is gone.

bummed. but this whole thing felt really weird, so it kinda makes sense, i guess.

crzymdups @ 7/15/2012 12:52 AM
that said, houston thinks it can buy linsanity. it can't. linsanity is ours. forever. houston is likely buying a lottery team next season.
FeltonandAmare @ 7/15/2012 1:19 AM
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Resigning Lin doesn't suck for the Knicks until yr 3. That being said, getting ray, Kidd and the Italian makes it look like the Knicks are moving on.

yep.

i think Lin is gone.

bummed. but this whole thing felt really weird, so it kinda makes sense, i guess.

Don't give up on Lin just yet. There are all sorts of reports that the Luxary tax is the issue that forces us to part ways with Lin. But after the third year, we will have $76M coming off the books the following year. We'll be able to start over completely. I see this more about Fields than Lin. Knicks were considering matching the Raptors offer sheet if no alternative at SG could be found. Felton/Kidd will share time at the SG behind JR. The Knicks have no back up at the SG and no money to get another competent SG. Knicks WILL match Lin's offer sheet.

VCoug @ 7/15/2012 1:22 AM
FeltonandAmare wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Resigning Lin doesn't suck for the Knicks until yr 3. That being said, getting ray, Kidd and the Italian makes it look like the Knicks are moving on.

yep.

i think Lin is gone.

bummed. but this whole thing felt really weird, so it kinda makes sense, i guess.

Don't give up on Lin just yet. There are all sorts of reports that the Luxary tax is the issue that forces us to part ways with Lin. But after the third year, we will have $76M coming off the books the following year. We'll be able to start over completely. I see this more about Fields than Lin. Knicks were considering matching the Raptors offer sheet if no alternative at SG could be found. Felton/Kidd will share time at the SG behind JR. The Knicks have no back up at the SG and no money to get another competent SG. Knicks WILL match Lin's offer sheet.

I don't think that it's the luxury tax, I believe that's a smoke screen. I personally believe that Dolan's upset that Lin used some power to show up Dolan and the Knicks a little bit and we're just repeating the same mistakes that led to the Sprewell for KVH trade.

holfresh @ 7/15/2012 1:25 AM
Some one need to tell Kidd he is playing SG cause in all his interviews he is saying he is here to make Melo and Amare better...He is here to make the game easier for them....
FeltonandAmare @ 7/15/2012 1:30 AM
Check out these tweets. Tide is turning, reports are that Knicks will match offer and/or somehow orchestrating a move for Chris Paul.


InsideHoops.com InsideHoops.com ‏@InsideHoops

Source tells InsideHoops the #Knicks still might match Rockets offer and keep Jeremy Lin


Alex Kennedy Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

The Knicks may still match Jeremy Lin's offer. The Raymond Felton acquisition was unexpected, but Lin returning is still a possibility.


Frank Isola Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN

And one more thing. I still say this somehow goes back to Chris Paul. There may just be a method to the Knicks madness

crzymdups @ 7/15/2012 1:31 AM
holfresh wrote:Some one need to tell Kidd he is playing SG cause in all his interviews he is saying he is here to make Melo and Amare better...He is here to make the game easier for them....

Kidd is pass first and pass always. he plays on the perimeter and only shoots if he has an open 3.

don't you think playing next to a score first guard who drives the lane all the time might be a decent fit for him?

I say starting Lin and Kidd next to each other is a good move.

It probably won't happen, Knicks will prob let Lin go. But I think Kidd/Lin would be a great backcourt.

holfresh @ 7/15/2012 1:32 AM
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one need to tell Kidd he is playing SG cause in all his interviews he is saying he is here to make Melo and Amare better...He is here to make the game easier for them....

Kidd is pass first and pass always. he plays on the perimeter and only shoots if he has an open 3.

don't you think playing next to a score first guard who drives the lane all the time might be a decent fit for him?

I say starting Lin and Kidd next to each other is a good move.

It probably won't happen, Knicks will prob let Lin go. But I think Kidd/Lin would be a great backcourt.

Be for real...Kidd is not here to play SG...

holfresh @ 7/15/2012 1:34 AM
DWill and Joe Johnson is a great backcourt...Kidd and Lin...No...
VCoug @ 7/15/2012 1:35 AM
FeltonandAmare wrote:Check out these tweets. Tide is turning, reports are that Knicks will match offer and/or somehow orchestrating a move for Chris Paul.


InsideHoops.com InsideHoops.com ‏@InsideHoops

Source tells InsideHoops the #Knicks still might match Rockets offer and keep Jeremy Lin


Alex Kennedy Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

The Knicks may still match Jeremy Lin's offer. The Raymond Felton acquisition was unexpected, but Lin returning is still a possibility.


Frank Isola Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN

And one more thing. I still say this somehow goes back to Chris Paul. There may just be a method to the Knicks madness

RonRon @ 7/15/2012 1:37 AM
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one need to tell Kidd he is playing SG cause in all his interviews he is saying he is here to make Melo and Amare better...He is here to make the game easier for them....

Kidd is pass first and pass always. he plays on the perimeter and only shoots if he has an open 3.

don't you think playing next to a score first guard who drives the lane all the time might be a decent fit for him?

I say starting Lin and Kidd next to each other is a good move.

It probably won't happen, Knicks will prob let Lin go. But I think Kidd/Lin would be a great backcourt.

Be for real...Kidd is not here to play SG...

what position was he playing on the Dallas squad when they won a ring?


JJ Barea
Terry
Kidd
DIrk
Chandler

he actually has played from the 1-3, mainly defending SGs and SF's....

crzymdups @ 7/15/2012 1:39 AM
RonRon wrote:
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one need to tell Kidd he is playing SG cause in all his interviews he is saying he is here to make Melo and Amare better...He is here to make the game easier for them....

Kidd is pass first and pass always. he plays on the perimeter and only shoots if he has an open 3.

don't you think playing next to a score first guard who drives the lane all the time might be a decent fit for him?

I say starting Lin and Kidd next to each other is a good move.

It probably won't happen, Knicks will prob let Lin go. But I think Kidd/Lin would be a great backcourt.

Be for real...Kidd is not here to play SG...

what position was he playing on the Dallas squad when they won a ring?


JJ Barea
Terry
Kidd
DIrk
Chandler

he actually has played from the 1-3, mainly defending SGs and SF's....

yeah. when spolestra was asked why the Heat signed Ray Allen when they are clearly loaded at SG and SF with wade, bron, battier, etc, he said "we're trying to collect basketball players. we're thinking less about positions and thinking about basketball."

RonRon @ 7/15/2012 1:39 AM
Funny how FeltonAmare has kept his username, and FeltonAmare reunite with Melo.....
DJMUSIC @ 7/15/2012 1:41 AM
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:Some one need to tell Kidd he is playing SG cause in all his interviews he is saying he is here to make Melo and Amare better...He is here to make the game easier for them....

Kidd is pass first and pass always. he plays on the perimeter and only shoots if he has an open 3.

don't you think playing next to a score first guard who drives the lane all the time might be a decent fit for him?

I say starting Lin and Kidd next to each other is a good move.

It probably won't happen, Knicks will prob let Lin go. But I think Kidd/Lin would be a great backcourt.

Be for real...Kidd is not here to play SG...


Alot of this is our ESPY Jeremy Lin and his ALL Or nothing Agent Lin is sabatoging our team with no ny loyalty back

Finally NYPost reports it right for a change, once the 1st offer was set Knicks told Lin/Agent they will get a match and that was suppose to be private. Ny promise or public statement to Lin before any media was a good sign, however Lin went out to Rockets inform
GM/Rockets of Knicks intentions.

Thus in turn Hous. to media is why u all seen articles specifically from GM/Rockets says Knicks will match cause Lin told them and they had plenty of time for Lin and Rockets to use Knicks to mod the initial offer and screw our team over again

Forget Lin,
I cant pin this on Dolan the man spends $$ and Lin was going to get ny paid but it didnt work out and all these older knicks will come off books soon but Knicks had to do business deal best interests of team without getting taken

Lin and Agent and Rockets GM brass can say what they want they used the Knicks harsely like many & DJ do not want any guy whom really really dont want to be in ny OR Wants Knickerbocker true blue/orange

Good riddance good bye, woulda been a good lin ending but we'll be ok
Betcha the time warner n folks to get Lin Cable/viewing is happy ? in ny eh

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