With JR back and the James White signing official, I would be shocked if we match Landry's offer, but I'd certainly be on board with it.
Give Landry a full off season to work on his game. He looked terrific playing along side Lin. I'd be sad to see him go.
Happy 24th Birthday to Landry Fields! Found these pics from the season hahah
https://p.twimg.com/AwcoZVlCMAAG0b2.png
http://twitter.com/JLin7/status/21818752...
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Don't listen to the board. Fields is going to improve his shot. He shot 39% from 3 just a year ago. He will be fine and needs an offseason with actual NBA people. Hopefully he's actually doing his work. Other than his shot, Fields has been a nice player for us.I'm sure he wont always dissapear in the playoffs too. That's something that can always change, despite what certain people think.
If Grunwald does match you and I can bring this thread back. If someone that the Knicks could have signed for the vet min (Maurice Evans) blows up for a contender and Fields regresses even more I'll take my medicine.
You guys are forgetting that we have Woody as coach now. He doesn't like Fields, won't play him and the ISo only offense will kill Fields' offensive game.
https://twitter.com/carmeloanthony/statu...
is this why Knick's might consider matching Fields?
Trying to add salary, to package with 2016 2018 2020 future 1st round picks?
When Cp3 contract ends, force S&T, or just walk after this season, and pulling Melo/Dwight on Clips??
Tyson Chandler/Lin/Fields and picks
for
Cp3/Jordan
loweyecue wrote:GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Don't listen to the board. Fields is going to improve his shot. He shot 39% from 3 just a year ago. He will be fine and needs an offseason with actual NBA people. Hopefully he's actually doing his work. Other than his shot, Fields has been a nice player for us.I'm sure he wont always dissapear in the playoffs too. That's something that can always change, despite what certain people think.
If Grunwald does match you and I can bring this thread back. If someone that the Knicks could have signed for the vet min (Maurice Evans) blows up for a contender and Fields regresses even more I'll take my medicine.
You guys are forgetting that we have Woody as coach now. He doesn't like Fields, won't play him and the ISo only offense will kill Fields' offensive game.
Yep, let the CP3 watch threads begin. We need more material.
Wait till people start figuring out ways to get CP3 and sign Howard as well. Oh and Isiah will be coach again.
You don't overpay and bring Field back for one reason he sucks and does not fit this team, We need a SG or SF that can shoot and handle and he can do neither, We don't need a guy that teams don't need to respect on the court .I don't ever want to see another one of his bricks in the garden again
Mray20 wrote:You don't overpay and bring Field back for one reason he sucks and does not fit this team, We need a SG or SF that can shoot and handle and he can do neither, We don't need a guy that teams don't need to respect on the court .I don't ever want to see another one of his bricks in the garden again
The reason why you don't overpay in the NBA is because it takes away cap space that you can use to sign other players. So I get what you're saying.
But that's not the case here for the reasons others and myself have already listed above. Hello? Bueller?
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Mray20 wrote:You don't overpay and bring Field back for one reason he sucks and does not fit this team, We need a SG or SF that can shoot and handle and he can do neither, We don't need a guy that teams don't need to respect on the court .I don't ever want to see another one of his bricks in the garden again
The reason why you don't overpay in the NBA is because it takes away cap space that you can use to sign other players. So I get what you're saying.
But that's not the case here for the reasons others and myself have already listed above. Hello? Bueller?
Ok so bring him back and let him ride the bench and carry Lins bags for 3 years, I can't see him making any positive contribution on the court and he kills the offense when he bricks or doesn't shoot the ball cause he has no confidence in his jump shot.
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:Fields could actually be worth matching for one major reason:In year 3 he becomes a very attractive 10 million dollar expiring contract. The Knicks are on a "3-year plan" on paper, and the reason i say on paper is because it is highly likely they will retool before the end of the 3 years, given the youth of the team. Our core players are still all in their late 20s and will only be in their early 30s by the end of the 3 years. They will still be able to retool and make another run at it. Fields' contract becomes a great asset to grab a top player from a team that can't afford it due to rebuilding or the crazy taxes. I think an example of the plan would be after year 2, or during the year-3 trade deadline, sending Stoudemire and Fields to a team looking to unload some top talent on large contracts that fit around Melo, Chandler, Lin, and Shumpert. At that point in time we will have a much better idea of how to build around Melo based on the results of the first 2 seasons.
in 3 years, I hope the Knicks dump Amare and grab Love to match up with Chandler/Melo/Shump/Lin 
your only saying that now, but if he comes back stong and we some how make it to the finals, you'll be kissing the ring
I don't like the premise of this idea. Take a potential problem and compound it? What if we need more flexibility? Fields contract could be unmoveable like Shandon Anderson's. We don't want that. Remember, Shandon Anderson was a valued role player before he got his contract. After his contract he was one of the most overpaid scrubs in the NBA.
VDesai wrote:I don't like the premise of this idea. Take a potential problem and compound it? What if we need more flexibility? Fields contract could be unmoveable like Shandon Anderson's. We don't want that. Remember, Shandon Anderson was a valued role player before he got his contract. After his contract he was one of the most overpaid scrubs in the NBA.
+1 He was a disgrace in a Knick uniform as was his sidekick Howard Eisley
Let's not forget that Fields SUCKS and has a serious confidence issue. I don't know if I'd want him for the mini mid level. He was an abortion last season. No thanks.
MSG3 wrote:Let's not forget that Fields SUCKS and has a serious confidence issue. I don't know if I'd want him for the mini mid level. He was an abortion last season. No thanks.
+1 he serves no purpose and he's a liability when he is on the court .
If it does not hurt our cap situation, I don't know why you would not take him back, even though the contract is a ridiculous one, IMO.
The guy does not suck, by the way. He is a solid defender, a good passer, a decent rebounder, and he runs the floor well. You hope that he has worked on the release for his jumper, and gets back to being the shooter he was his rookie season.
Another reason why he might have more value this year is Kidd. Don't think that Kidd won't appreciate have a cutter like Fields to pass to. Same goes for Prigioni, if he is on the roster, and gets some minutes with the second team. He also works well with Lin, and they seem to be good friends.
Do you folks actually think that the PGs the Knicks will now have on the team are going to be standing around passing the ball to Anthony all game and waiting while he takes seven seconds or more (you can call it the SSOM offense)to decide what he is going to do with the ball.
I'm hoping that Woodson gradually allows the offense to evolve, as Kidd, Lin, and even Prigioni (I keep on thinking of pignoli... or Pine nuts) exert their influence over the team, and even Anthony.
Kidd stills has some gravitas as a player, and also a ring and two other trips to the finals. I'm hoping/praying, that he is able to influence our offense, at very least when he is on the floor and Anthony is not. If he does, a guy like Fields will be a much more valuable asset.
Paladin55 wrote:If it does not hurt our cap situation, I don't know why you would not take him back, even though the contract is a ridiculous one, IMO.The guy does not suck, by the way. He is a solid defender, a good passer, a decent rebounder, and he runs the floor well. You hope that he has worked on the release for his jumper, and gets back to being the shooter he was his rookie season.
Another reason why he might have more value this year is Kidd. Don't think that Kidd won't appreciate have a cutter like Fields to pass to. Same goes for Prigioni, if he is on the roster, and gets some minutes with the second team. He also works well with Lin, and they seem to be good friends.
Do you folks actually think that the PGs the Knicks will now have on the team are going to be standing around passing the ball to Anthony all game and waiting while he takes seven seconds or more (you can call it the SSOM offense)to decide what he is going to do with the ball.
I'm hoping that Woodson gradually allows the offense to evolve, as Kidd, Lin, and even Prigioni (I keep on thinking of pignoli... or Pine nuts) exert their influence over the team, and even Anthony.
Kidd stills has some gravitas as a player, and also a ring and two other trips to the finals. I'm hoping/praying, that he is able to influence our offense, at very least when he is on the floor and Anthony is not. If he does, a guy like Fields will be a much more valuable asset.
He no longer fits with Melo here.
He will be a good player in Toronto, they resemble what the Knicks use to be, without Amare, but better and deeper.
More shooters and big men that could rebound/block shots, with more depth.
RonRon wrote:Paladin55 wrote:If it does not hurt our cap situation, I don't know why you would not take him back, even though the contract is a ridiculous one, IMO.The guy does not suck, by the way. He is a solid defender, a good passer, a decent rebounder, and he runs the floor well. You hope that he has worked on the release for his jumper, and gets back to being the shooter he was his rookie season.
Another reason why he might have more value this year is Kidd. Don't think that Kidd won't appreciate have a cutter like Fields to pass to. Same goes for Prigioni, if he is on the roster, and gets some minutes with the second team. He also works well with Lin, and they seem to be good friends.
Do you folks actually think that the PGs the Knicks will now have on the team are going to be standing around passing the ball to Anthony all game and waiting while he takes seven seconds or more (you can call it the SSOM offense)to decide what he is going to do with the ball.
I'm hoping that Woodson gradually allows the offense to evolve, as Kidd, Lin, and even Prigioni (I keep on thinking of pignoli... or Pine nuts) exert their influence over the team, and even Anthony.
Kidd stills has some gravitas as a player, and also a ring and two other trips to the finals. I'm hoping/praying, that he is able to influence our offense, at very least when he is on the floor and Anthony is not. If he does, a guy like Fields will be a much more valuable asset.
He no longer fits with Melo here.
He will be a good player in Toronto, they resemble what the Knicks use to be, without Amare, but better and deeper.
More shooters and big men that could rebound/block shots, with more depth.
So will Toronto fix his free throw shooting? Toney Douglas will be a star in Houston.
Paladin55 wrote:If it does not hurt our cap situation, I don't know why you would not take him back, even though the contract is a ridiculous one, IMO.The guy does not suck, by the way. He is a solid defender, a good passer, a decent rebounder, and he runs the floor well. You hope that he has worked on the release for his jumper, and gets back to being the shooter he was his rookie season.
Another reason why he might have more value this year is Kidd. Don't think that Kidd won't appreciate have a cutter like Fields to pass to. Same goes for Prigioni, if he is on the roster, and gets some minutes with the second team. He also works well with Lin, and they seem to be good friends.
Do you folks actually think that the PGs the Knicks will now have on the team are going to be standing around passing the ball to Anthony all game and waiting while he takes seven seconds or more (you can call it the SSOM offense)to decide what he is going to do with the ball.
I'm hoping that Woodson gradually allows the offense to evolve, as Kidd, Lin, and even Prigioni (I keep on thinking of pignoli... or Pine nuts) exert their influence over the team, and even Anthony.
Kidd stills has some gravitas as a player, and also a ring and two other trips to the finals. I'm hoping/praying, that he is able to influence our offense, at very least when he is on the floor and Anthony is not. If he does, a guy like Fields will be a much more valuable asset.
He does suck and his D is overrated. He rebounds well at the 2 and runs and cuts well. But hes a horrible shooter and hes not a smart player.
If I have to see him leave his feet with the ball and throw it away 5 times a game, miss free throws, miss an assignment on D and watch him on the verge of tears when forced to take a wide open shot that he will absolutely brick 9/10 times next season I will be very upset. He's down there with Anthony Bonner and John Wallace in where he fits in the pantheon of Knicks players. Good riddance.
No to matching Landry's offer. Way too much money and not necessary.
We are filling his spot - we signed James White (SF) and now Chris Copeland (SG). Also we picked up Prigioni and there is some thought to have Kidd and Lin on the court at the same time and have Prigioni lead the 2nd team at PG.
I was disappointed with Fields last season, but fully expected him to come back improved next season.
The hate in this thread seems a bit extreme, but I guess that's to be expected when the contract no longer matches the player's output.
I'm fine with him coming back if the contract can become an asset in the third year.
yellowboy90 wrote:RonRon wrote:Paladin55 wrote:If it does not hurt our cap situation, I don't know why you would not take him back, even though the contract is a ridiculous one, IMO.The guy does not suck, by the way. He is a solid defender, a good passer, a decent rebounder, and he runs the floor well. You hope that he has worked on the release for his jumper, and gets back to being the shooter he was his rookie season.
Another reason why he might have more value this year is Kidd. Don't think that Kidd won't appreciate have a cutter like Fields to pass to. Same goes for Prigioni, if he is on the roster, and gets some minutes with the second team. He also works well with Lin, and they seem to be good friends.
Do you folks actually think that the PGs the Knicks will now have on the team are going to be standing around passing the ball to Anthony all game and waiting while he takes seven seconds or more (you can call it the SSOM offense)to decide what he is going to do with the ball.
I'm hoping that Woodson gradually allows the offense to evolve, as Kidd, Lin, and even Prigioni (I keep on thinking of pignoli... or Pine nuts) exert their influence over the team, and even Anthony.
Kidd stills has some gravitas as a player, and also a ring and two other trips to the finals. I'm hoping/praying, that he is able to influence our offense, at very least when he is on the floor and Anthony is not. If he does, a guy like Fields will be a much more valuable asset.
He no longer fits with Melo here.
He will be a good player in Toronto, they resemble what the Knicks use to be, without Amare, but better and deeper.
More shooters and big men that could rebound/block shots, with more depth.
So will Toronto fix his free throw shooting? Toney Douglas will be a star in Houston.
Did Channing Frye look better when he was a Knick or now with the Suns?
Did Ariza look good with Orlando, Knicks, Houston, New Orleans, or the Lakers?
Playing with a team that fit's can be a big difference.
I think that is why Amare looks like crap with us, with the additions of Chandler/Melo together.
MSG3 wrote:Paladin55 wrote:If it does not hurt our cap situation, I don't know why you would not take him back, even though the contract is a ridiculous one, IMO.The guy does not suck, by the way. He is a solid defender, a good passer, a decent rebounder, and he runs the floor well. You hope that he has worked on the release for his jumper, and gets back to being the shooter he was his rookie season.
Another reason why he might have more value this year is Kidd. Don't think that Kidd won't appreciate have a cutter like Fields to pass to. Same goes for Prigioni, if he is on the roster, and gets some minutes with the second team. He also works well with Lin, and they seem to be good friends.
Do you folks actually think that the PGs the Knicks will now have on the team are going to be standing around passing the ball to Anthony all game and waiting while he takes seven seconds or more (you can call it the SSOM offense)to decide what he is going to do with the ball.
I'm hoping that Woodson gradually allows the offense to evolve, as Kidd, Lin, and even Prigioni (I keep on thinking of pignoli... or Pine nuts) exert their influence over the team, and even Anthony.
Kidd stills has some gravitas as a player, and also a ring and two other trips to the finals. I'm hoping/praying, that he is able to influence our offense, at very least when he is on the floor and Anthony is not. If he does, a guy like Fields will be a much more valuable asset.
He does suck and his D is overrated. He rebounds well at the 2 and runs and cuts well. But hes a horrible shooter and hes not a smart player.
If I have to see him leave his feet with the ball and throw it away 5 times a game, miss free throws, miss an assignment on D and watch him on the verge of tears when forced to take a wide open shot that he will absolutely brick 9/10 times next season I will be very upset. He's down there with Anthony Bonner and John Wallace in where he fits in the pantheon of Knicks players. Good riddance.
Lets not forget Mardy Collins and Chris Duhon
