Knicks · Elton Brand (page 1)

word on the street is that the 76ers are to amnesty Elton Brand (and the Lakers are in pursuit). The Knicks have made so many moves I can't keep track... no to mention I know little about the new CBA. Would it be possible to add Brand into the fold? I think we would all agree that he's the exact type of power forward that this team needs. Not to mention, the Knicks would have one hell of a front court rotation. It would be a match up nightmare for every team in the league. So, am i having delusions of grandeur or what?

Rumors are the Mavs who are under the fap are going to be agressively bidding if he is amnesty'd

I think they would rather have Scola more, but maybe both, since Brand can be a one year rental.

This can be a very good way of stockpiling assets, by staying under the cap, wonder....

Wait, Houston had a lot of cap room, and just wanted to go closer to 0 salary?
Are they going to have to pay someone from the D league/FA max salary to get 50m on payroll if no trades come through?

Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

brand's a pretty nice piece at $2M a year.

crzymdups wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

brand's a pretty nice piece at $2M a year.

Doesn't matter, Dallas isn't winning anything next year.

that is still a great price for Brand's caliber, even for his age.
That is barely more than a vet minimum for a player to play as the 8th man on the bench.

I wonder what will the price for Scola be, I think its going to be at least 3.5m -5m, possibly the most expensive bid for an amnesty player to receive.
I think as of right now, Travis Outlaw is in the lead for 3m but I am pretty sure Scola is going to beat him.
Thing about Scola is he has 3 years left on his contract and you must take all his years, limiting some flexibility for the future.
He is a solid 14-8, with good FG% and FT%, but with the way the league is forming athletic 4's that also have 3point range, his value drops a bit.

He is still a starting material or perfect 6-8th man on many teams.
His game does not rely on athleticism and he is also a pretty good passer for a big man.
He is the typical Euro big, without 3point range, with a wide big body.
Having the ability to score inside, as well as a 17 footer from anywhere on the court, that plays smarts, makes right cuts, and feeds the open man.

Not a star by any means, but a VERY SOLID player.
I think a lot of teams will be placing a bid for Scola's services.

The amnesty and the poison pill, are both weapons that give teams that are under the cap, an advantage to collect assets, and poison teams that are over the cap.
Especially teams that have found Euro players at a steal in the draft or anyone even in the 2nd round.

For future team's that have the rights to Euro Players, it would make more sense to sign them to deals that are larger than the 2nd round pick, like what Bucks did with Ilyasova, 3years-2.5m a year.
That is why early 2nd round picks are worth more, because they can give 3 year contracts, vs 2 year contracts, so teams can give the poison pill.
It almost makes future 2nd picks useless, unless they are high.
Cause if you get a steal in the draft, you are still going to have to pay a high price to keep them.

VCoug wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

brand's a pretty nice piece at $2M a year.

Doesn't matter, Dallas isn't winning anything next year.

define "anything" because i think you might find the knicks in a similar boat.

dallas got darren collison and dahntay jones and kaman and brand essentially for free. that's not too shabby in terms of rebuilding on the fly.

they'll be in the playoffs and still have cap flexibility next year.

crzymdups wrote:

VCoug wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

brand's a pretty nice piece at $2M a year.

Doesn't matter, Dallas isn't winning anything next year.

define "anything" because i think you might find the knicks in a similar boat.

dallas got darren collison and dahntay jones and kaman and brand essentially for free. that's not too shabby in terms of rebuilding on the fly.

they'll be in the playoffs and still have cap flexibility next year.

Definitely not winning a championship and they probably won't be winning any playoff series either. They were swept out of the playoffs this past season and I don't see any of those players doing much to change that. Meanwhile, Dirk will be another year older next season and neither Dwight nor CP3 have shown any inclination to play in Dallas.

VCoug wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

VCoug wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

brand's a pretty nice piece at $2M a year.

Doesn't matter, Dallas isn't winning anything next year.

define "anything" because i think you might find the knicks in a similar boat.

dallas got darren collison and dahntay jones and kaman and brand essentially for free. that's not too shabby in terms of rebuilding on the fly.

they'll be in the playoffs and still have cap flexibility next year.

Definitely not winning a championship and they probably won't be winning any playoff series either. They were swept out of the playoffs this past season and I don't see any of those players doing much to change that. Meanwhile, Dirk will be another year older next season and neither Dwight nor CP3 have shown any inclination to play in Dallas.

what franchises that are willing to spend have cap room next off-season? seems to me like dallas might be one of the only ones.

crzymdups wrote:

VCoug wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

VCoug wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Dallas got Brand....they officially won the bid

I wouldn't call that "winning"

brand's a pretty nice piece at $2M a year.

Doesn't matter, Dallas isn't winning anything next year.

define "anything" because i think you might find the knicks in a similar boat.

dallas got darren collison and dahntay jones and kaman and brand essentially for free. that's not too shabby in terms of rebuilding on the fly.

they'll be in the playoffs and still have cap flexibility next year.

Definitely not winning a championship and they probably won't be winning any playoff series either. They were swept out of the playoffs this past season and I don't see any of those players doing much to change that. Meanwhile, Dirk will be another year older next season and neither Dwight nor CP3 have shown any inclination to play in Dallas.

what franchises that are willing to spend have cap room next off-season? seems to me like dallas might be one of the only ones.

For CP3 and Dwight I'm sure there are plenty teams willing to spend. There will also be sign and trades available.

I like the idea of another post threat on the bench. I still think taking a look at Carl Landry makes sense.