Knicks · aww, lin misses nyk already... (page 2)

Jeremy Lin was grateful to get a chance to play for the Knicks in a big market.. he was on the bench praying for a chance to play at the mecca of basketball.. suddenly, starting pgs got injured or performed miserably, D'Antoni got frustrated... Jeremy continues to pray for that one chance and he got it! "Oh man, Carmelo still hurt and out. I gotta shine!" Jeremy screams in his head. So the next 10 days or so, he became the starter and boy did he shine! Not only he worked his ass off on the court and scored and assisted and rebounded and fell on his ass numerous of times, but he became the David vs Goliath fantasy. Fans adored him, and he continued to be flashy under D'Antoni's system. He proved everyone wrong and he wants the Knicks to get the championship after a 40-year drought and so he overworked himself. Then he got injured and played hurt like all the other Knicks, but it was too late. He was too young to know he was burning the candle at both ends for the Knicks that is paying him less than 800k a year as a new york golden boy. He realized his mistake, and now worries about the season ending knee surgery. He figures, hell, I helped the Knicks get into the playoff and also made the team lots of money from media influence and fans around the world. I will be okay. I'll go take the surgery and work my ass off again and pray and pray and maybe come back in second round playoff. That didn't happen and dust started to flare up in the Square.

So Jeremy Lin puts down the bible and continued his rehab with a leap of faith. Surgery was a success as easily predicted, but not his career. All of a sudden he realized the Knicks had no intention to resign him to a long term contract he believes he deserved for helping the team to reach the playoff. I mean he worked hard and suffered for it with his stupidity and sincerity. At the end, all he got was Mike Woodson, an interim coach to tell him everything will be okay. I mean can you trust a man with a perfect bushy goatee? So Jeremy just enjoyed his stay back in California and cancelled his trip to play for his country because he contract is up in the air unknown. He felt unappreciated but kept the bible close to his hands. If it worked once, it will work twice, right?

Then all of a sudden, Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey came by. Although he resembles Jimmy Dolan's style of business, any GM approaching is good news for Jeremy Lin. So Morey quietly said to Lin, "Hey, I know we let you go and didn't even try you out.. We realized we made a huge mistake and we don't want to end up with the Curse of the BamLino. Excuse my pun, but you know what I'm saying? You are our Babe Ruth and we know it now. The Knicks only gave you a chance because they had no other PGs left to play. They did the exact same thing as we did, except this time, we are taking actions. I want to sign you. Hey look, we got rid of all our PGs.. we want you, and we'll find a way to get Dwight Howard as well, but that's just between you and me. We're not liking that Scola kid. Anyway, back to my point. We want to sign you, and the offer will be goooood.. like biblical good." And so over dinner, they talked and talked and talked. Jeremy Lin suddenly felt like Cinderella all over again and the time is nowhere near midnight on July 11th. So he verbally agreed to take the offer in appreciation.

After the champagne buzz faded, he realized what has just happened. He talked to his agent about Morey's plan and his agent is liking the money.. i mean the idea behind all this. He told Jeremy guess what, the Knicks will match the offer I bet and Jeremy said, "Oh? You think so? You think they will match the offer, George?" "Yes, I will make that happen." So his agent went off to make sure the front office gets the memo, then he came back to Jeremy and said, "Guess what Jeremy! They said they will match any offers. Woodson even guaranteed in public that!" "Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I'm so happy now!"

Then Houston Rockets just realized the more deals they were making were making them digging a huge hole like the Knicks, and they are wary they are making a big mistake. So they came back to talk to Jeremy Lin, "Hey, so you think the Knicks will dare to match our offer because we really want you back. The fear of the 100 year curse is too much for us to bear." "Oh, don't worry about that. The Knicks are going to match any offers you got. I was told your 4 year deal is nothing.." "ORly?" said Morey. All of a sudden, Morey smiled and carefully approached Jeremy again and whispered, "Hey, you know about Jimmy Dolan right? Remember what he did for Allan Houston? Remember what he did for Carmelo? You can be that too you know. How about this.. I'm going to give you the maximum under the rules and see if the Knicks dare to walk the walk because we do care..." As Morey handed Jeremy Lin a shiny delicious Big Apple, Jeremy quickly signed the new offer sheet without a doubt because either way, one team will finally realize his 'loyalty' and 'potential'.

"THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?!?", screamed Isiah Thomas, standing half naked with a wife-beater on top and Jimmy Dolan's stuffed mouth on the bottom. As the staff members gathered together for an emergency meeting, Jimmy asked them as he wiped his lips clean, "Hey, remember we had a point guard but traded away for Melo? What's his name again? Let's get him back!" Everyone looked at each other in awe, not knowing why or how all this happened. The GM then brought in Felton from McDonalds to sign a fat contract while watching Camby signing his soul away.

We would have us Knicks fans as the Chorus, but hell, we suffered enough of this bullcrap drama. They all suck and we refuse to chant and sing as The Chorus and walked off the staged pissed. THE END.

yellowboy90 wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

The Kniks can't match the offer until they receive a hard copy of it in the offices in NY. The deal was signed late Friday or on Saturday I think so the papers probably won't get to NY until Monday.

This was according to Alan Hahn during the SL game on Saturday. I wouldn't be too worried, I believe they will match.

They got the papers late Saturday after Hahn made that statement according to sources.

Ahhh I didn't hear about that. I suppose the Knicks are waiting it out then and maybe they won't match - at the end of the day I think the will since he has value. Felton is not a better PG - he is insurance for Kidd if he breaks down (in my opinion). We need the depth.

I think it was his agent who screwed him into thinking it would be OK to have Houston up its offer. Lin is a young kid, smart yes, but doesn't know the financial ropes of the NBA. That's why he and all of the other players have agents. Lin's agent screwed him royally if the Knicks don't match Houston's offer. And right now it looks like we won't match.

Houston will allow Lin to maximize his brand. He wont be sharing the spotlight with anyone. Plus he gets his millions sooner. No brainer from a financial point of view.

OasisBU wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

The Kniks can't match the offer until they receive a hard copy of it in the offices in NY. The deal was signed late Friday or on Saturday I think so the papers probably won't get to NY until Monday.

This was according to Alan Hahn during the SL game on Saturday. I wouldn't be too worried, I believe they will match.

They got the papers late Saturday after Hahn made that statement according to sources.

Ahhh I didn't hear about that. I suppose the Knicks are waiting it out then and maybe they won't match - at the end of the day I think the will since he has value. Felton is not a better PG - he is insurance for Kidd if he breaks down (in my opinion). We need the depth.

Lin is gone. The Knicks don't need 4 PG's on the team.

AnubisADL wrote:Now Lin's agent is too blame. Lin is no dummmy. He wanted that $$$$$ like every other NBA player.

Houston will allow Lin to maximize his brand. He wont be sharing the spotlight with anyone. Plus he gets his millions sooner. No brainer from a financial point of view.

Linsanity playing for the Knicks would bring Lin more $ in endorsements than the extra $5 mil he got from Houston's upped offer.

CashMoney wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

The Kniks can't match the offer until they receive a hard copy of it in the offices in NY. The deal was signed late Friday or on Saturday I think so the papers probably won't get to NY until Monday.

This was according to Alan Hahn during the SL game on Saturday. I wouldn't be too worried, I believe they will match.

They got the papers late Saturday after Hahn made that statement according to sources.

Ahhh I didn't hear about that. I suppose the Knicks are waiting it out then and maybe they won't match - at the end of the day I think the will since he has value. Felton is not a better PG - he is insurance for Kidd if he breaks down (in my opinion). We need the depth.

Lin is gone. The Knicks don't need 4 PG's on the team.

You can never have enough PG's

Markji wrote:Lin wanted to be signed by the Knicks. He likes Linsanity and all of the hype. And NY was the one place where he excelled as a basketball player. Nowhere's else.

I think it was his agent who screwed him into thinking it would be OK to have Houston up its offer. Lin is a young kid, smart yes, but doesn't know the financial ropes of the NBA. That's why he and all of the other players have agents. Lin's agent screwed him royally if the Knicks don't match Houston's offer. And right now it looks like we won't match.

I'm sorry but Lin has to take some blame to. He has a Harvard Economics degree.....I'm not convinced he didn't have any idea that there was a chance it could play out this way. I know for a fact that Harvard does plenty of NBA, NFL, MLB case studies......For HBS and Economics students.

ATrain wrote:

Markji wrote:Lin wanted to be signed by the Knicks. He likes Linsanity and all of the hype. And NY was the one place where he excelled as a basketball player. Nowhere's else.

I think it was his agent who screwed him into thinking it would be OK to have Houston up its offer. Lin is a young kid, smart yes, but doesn't know the financial ropes of the NBA. That's why he and all of the other players have agents. Lin's agent screwed him royally if the Knicks don't match Houston's offer. And right now it looks like we won't match.

I'm sorry but Lin has to take some blame to. He has a Harvard Economics degree.....I'm not convinced he didn't have any idea that there was a chance it could play out this way. I know for a fact that Harvard does plenty of NBA, NFL, MLB case studies......For HBS and Economics students.

I think if lin could, he would take back the 2nd offer sheet. But he can't and is stuck with it.

Also, if the Knicks do match Houston's offer, what kind of welcome will the other Knicks along with the coaches give Lin. I think they are all pissed at him.

LOOK OUT FOR HOUSTON!!

mrKnickShot wrote:The Rockets are awesome!! That is because Morey is the only GM to implement true SABERMETRICS in his decision making.

LOOK OUT FOR HOUSTON!!

He did the Knicks a favor taking all the Lin wagon fans away with his sabermetrics! Long live Morey!

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I swear, people do not know how to think for themselves; they believe everything they hear and read from unnamed sources. Or, they believe it if it fits their agenda.

I am still hopeful that knicks will match. If this had worked out differently and we worked out a S+T for Lamb or picks, I could see letting Lin walk to Houston. But not this way. Getting absolutely nothing back. Felton was acquired on a very reasonable contract and will be a tradeable piece down the road, so I don't think that move prevents us from matching the offer for Lin. I also could see Lin and Kidd getting minutes at the 2 with Felton at the 1.

Need. To. Match. This. Offer.

biglove44 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I swear, people do not know how to think for themselves; they believe everything they hear and read from unnamed sources. Or, they believe it if it fits their agenda.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this. His intention or not this has blown up in his face. He isn't the feel good story anymore. At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

dgKnicks wrote:I don't understand how anyone can blame Lin in this situation. If you are offered a job with much higher pay, you are obviously going to take it.

I am still hopeful that knicks will match. If this had worked out differently and we worked out a S+T for Lamb or picks, I could see letting Lin walk to Houston. But not this way. Getting absolutely nothing back. Felton was acquired on a very reasonable contract and will be a tradeable piece down the road, so I don't think that move prevents us from matching the offer for Lin. I also could see Lin and Kidd getting minutes at the 2 with Felton at the 1.

Need. To. Match. This. Offer.

I think in this particular thread, people aren't blaming Lin but kind of mocking this naivety he is trying to portray. I am not an NBA player, agent, coach, GM, Owner, towel boy, nothing, but I can see issues with how this played out. He can't be surprised at the way these events are playing out.

joec32033 wrote:

biglove44 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I swear, people do not know how to think for themselves; they believe everything they hear and read from unnamed sources. Or, they believe it if it fits their agenda.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this. His intention or not this has blown up in his face. He isn't the feel good story anymore. At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

That's kind of the point I was going for, not believing the quote where Lin just believed the Knicks would match ANY offer (despite what was put out in the media earlier this off season). He had to know this was a possibility, and as holfresh has said...if he truly wanted to be he, he could have made sure that happened.

That said...THE KNICKS HAVE NOT DECLINED THE CONTRACT YET! Everyone is acting as though it's a done deal. I still expect NY to match, and sort out any complications with that 3 year contract later. He will still be a very movable asset.

I hope Lin comes back to NY, but I'm still excited for this team, with or without him.

Markji wrote:

ATrain wrote:

Markji wrote:Lin wanted to be signed by the Knicks. He likes Linsanity and all of the hype. And NY was the one place where he excelled as a basketball player. Nowhere's else.

I think it was his agent who screwed him into thinking it would be OK to have Houston up its offer. Lin is a young kid, smart yes, but doesn't know the financial ropes of the NBA. That's why he and all of the other players have agents. Lin's agent screwed him royally if the Knicks don't match Houston's offer. And right now it looks like we won't match.

I'm sorry but Lin has to take some blame to. He has a Harvard Economics degree.....I'm not convinced he didn't have any idea that there was a chance it could play out this way. I know for a fact that Harvard does plenty of NBA, NFL, MLB case studies......For HBS and Economics students.

I agree that Lin takes some of the blame. But he is being advised and handled by an agent who renegotiated with Morey. Probably Lin gave him the go-ahead but Lin had no real experience in NBA negotiations and how to read/handle GMs and owners. Agents do. That's what they are paid for.

I think if lin could, he would take back the 2nd offer sheet. But he can't and is stuck with it.

Also, if the Knicks do match Houston's offer, what kind of welcome will the other Knicks along with the coaches give Lin. I think they are all pissed at him.

I doubt that the other Knicks players would really care, especially considering that they are all millionaires themselves. Some of them have already said that they're happy for him getting the deal.

One thing that Lin and his handlers haven't realized that is he comes back with any less than "Linsanity", that he will catch hell for that deal, from the local and national sports media, as well as a significant segment of the NYK fanbase who will all raise hell on earth about it. Lin will be thrown under the bus even more than Grunwald will, and nothing that the "Lin fans" say or do will mean anything. Lin will still be blamed for anything that goes wrong.

Plus, the hit that his image is taking won't heal quickly or easily, especially if his level of play in 2012-13 isn't on at or near that of his "Linsanity" stretch.

If Lin was able to retract that 2nd offer, that would help calm the drama in the eyes of Knicks management and the segment of Knicks fans who, with good reason, are not pleased with the reworked deal. However, he can't, because he already signed it. He and his agent should have thought about that before they signed off on that idiotic "poison pill" deal.

joec32033 wrote:

biglove44 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I swear, people do not know how to think for themselves; they believe everything they hear and read from unnamed sources. Or, they believe it if it fits their agenda.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this. His intention or not this has blown up in his face. He isn't the feel good story anymore. At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

Your anti-lin agenda is alarming. It's one thing to not like a player for his bball skills but to assume such negativity on someone's character is disgusting. You're speculating that he got a big head and forgot where he came from. That is ridiculous. His HS coach quoted (notice how this is a real person that has contact with lin on the regular, who isn't just some unnamed source!?!)that Lin turned down quite a few endorsement deals over the summer to focus on bball, because they took up too much time. That doesn't sound like someone who's got a big ego. Interesting, you would think that someone who "got a big head" would want all that fame and attention.

He's not a saint but he's not the extreme of what you claim he is either.

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

Markji wrote:

ATrain wrote:

Markji wrote:Lin wanted to be signed by the Knicks. He likes Linsanity and all of the hype. And NY was the one place where he excelled as a basketball player. Nowhere's else.

I think it was his agent who screwed him into thinking it would be OK to have Houston up its offer. Lin is a young kid, smart yes, but doesn't know the financial ropes of the NBA. That's why he and all of the other players have agents. Lin's agent screwed him royally if the Knicks don't match Houston's offer. And right now it looks like we won't match.

I'm sorry but Lin has to take some blame to. He has a Harvard Economics degree.....I'm not convinced he didn't have any idea that there was a chance it could play out this way. I know for a fact that Harvard does plenty of NBA, NFL, MLB case studies......For HBS and Economics students.

I agree that Lin takes some of the blame. But he is being advised and handled by an agent who renegotiated with Morey. Probably Lin gave him the go-ahead but Lin had no real experience in NBA negotiations and how to read/handle GMs and owners. Agents do. That's what they are paid for.

I think if lin could, he would take back the 2nd offer sheet. But he can't and is stuck with it.

Also, if the Knicks do match Houston's offer, what kind of welcome will the other Knicks along with the coaches give Lin. I think they are all pissed at him.

I doubt that the other Knicks players would really care, especially considering that they are all millionaires themselves. Some of them have already said that they're happy for him getting the deal.

If Lin was able to retract that 2nd offer, that would help calm the drama in the eyes of Knicks management and the segment of Knicks fans who, with good reason, are not pleased with the reworked deal. However, he can't, because he already signed it. He and his agent should have thought about that before they signed off on that idiotic "poison pill" deal.

Vets are signing with the Knicks. They have bought into the fact that the Knicks are going for it all this year. And Lin is screwing it up if the Knicks don't match his "ridiculous" offer.

biglove44 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

biglove44 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Caseloads wrote:"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."
- lin

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8167215

Just to be clear...

"He was very surprised," the source said. "He felt the whole time that the Knicks would just match the offer."

Jeremy Lin ‏@JLin7
Lol why do u guys believe everything? No quotes from me = probably not true

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I swear, people do not know how to think for themselves; they believe everything they hear and read from unnamed sources. Or, they believe it if it fits their agenda.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this. His intention or not this has blown up in his face. He isn't the feel good story anymore. At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

Your anti-lin agenda is alarming. It's one thing to not like a player for his bball skills but to assume such negativity on someone's character is disgusting. You're speculating that he got a big head and forgot where he came from. That is ridiculous. His HS coach quoted (notice how this is a real person that has contact with lin on the regular, who isn't just some unnamed source!?!)that Lin turned down quite a few endorsement deals over the summer to focus on bball, because they took up too much time. That doesn't sound like someone who's got a big ego. Interesting, you would think that someone who "got a big head" would want all that fame and attention.

He's not a saint but he not the extreme of what your claim he is either.

Drop the agenda crap. I don't have one. I could care less if Lin comes back. I want the Knicks to win.

Now reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong point(you insult me, I insult you...now we are even) so let me walk you through this.

It's because NO ONE can believe Lin is this naive!!! This is not Pre-K where teachers help you wipe your ass, this is the real world and Lil' Lin is 23! He can not hide behind the whole innocent, aw schucks attitude on this.

He has portrayed an image as this humble, aw schucks kid. Undeniable. This is part of him that makes him a global draw.

His intention or not this has blown up in his face.

Lin's OWN QUOTE

"I figured nyk would just match the new contract..."

How was my quote wrong?

At this rate he is turning into the story of the kid who came from nowhere got big and forgot all he went through along the way and is becoming drunk with being the man. He isn't there yet but that is the direction this is going.

You must have missed the the last part. I made it a little more noticeable for you.

I'll be honest here. If Jeremy Lin is actually this naive. This...pollyanna. This....I can't grasp the words to describe the naivety he is trying to get across, he simply doesn't belong here. He will get in trouble.

Where am I drawing definitive judgments on his character? I am looking at this situation as a whole. I can think of a few guys I would rather have then Lin (including the guy the Rockets traded away to make room for him) and I can think of a few guards who I would never take above Lin.

While I won't go so far as saying you have a pro-Lin agenda because you have a different viewpoint of this situation as I do, I think it is obvious you are a Lin fan. Good Luck. I hope your guy comes back and helps the Knicks win.