Jeremy wanted NY -NY wanted Jeremy. It ended because of money but really not the financial cost. It was effect of the contract. I believe that the knick hierarchy sat down and looked at the contract and said we can afford it but can the team afford it. JR was going to resent him, every mistake was going to cause some vet to think why is he getting that amount of money. Every turnover would be questionned, every play would be scrutinized.
this is called rationalization.
jeremy lin would have been fine. what wouldn't have been fine were the massive egos of james dolan and carmelo anthony who couldn't handle the success of a kid that had nothing to do with them. they were threatened and got rid of the problem.
crzymdups wrote:this is called rationalization.
jeremy lin would have been fine. what wouldn't have been fine were the massive egos of james dolan and carmelo anthony who couldn't handle the success of a kid that had nothing to do with them. they were threatened and got rid of the problem.
Melo saying that he wanted Lin back is not enough for you?
excuses excuses. Jeremy Lin would've made the team better. JR Smith complaining? If Lin were here, I have a strong feeling JR Smith will be booted first, unless of course, Jeremy Lin turns out to be a bust as some of you predicted (not me, I think he'll get better, at least to earn his starting role) But what's done is done. No point going back and talk about what ifs. Look on the brighter side, Jack Daniel goes well with coke (not the one Jimmy Dolan snorted).
CashMoney wrote:crzymdups wrote:this is called rationalization.
jeremy lin would have been fine. what wouldn't have been fine were the massive egos of james dolan and carmelo anthony who couldn't handle the success of a kid that had nothing to do with them. they were threatened and got rid of the problem.
Melo saying that he wanted Lin back is not enough for you?
...was that before or after he called Lin's contract ridiculous?
Melo is backed by CAA who are pretty involved in the Knicks power structure (Woodson/Melo/Houston, etc). Melo doesn't have to say a thing for his voice to be heard.
Also, I like JR Smith and all, but it's funny to me that JR Smith is now some flag the Anti-Lin crowd is waving.... does NO ONE remember that JR Smith was one of the most hated players on the team this past season? And that Lin was beloved? Do you guys really forget that quickly?
JR Smith was almost lynched here after his playoffs performance.
crzymdups wrote:CashMoney wrote:crzymdups wrote:this is called rationalization.
jeremy lin would have been fine. what wouldn't have been fine were the massive egos of james dolan and carmelo anthony who couldn't handle the success of a kid that had nothing to do with them. they were threatened and got rid of the problem.
Melo saying that he wanted Lin back is not enough for you?
...was that before or after he called Lin's contract ridiculous?
Melo is backed by CAA who are pretty involved in the Knicks power structure (Woodson/Melo/Houston, etc). Melo doesn't have to say a thing for his voice to be heard.
He called the structure of the contract ridiculous but feel free to keep hearing what you want. The day the statement was made he said he wanted Lin back but it was not up to him. There's a difference between print and audio which Hahn mentioned during the summer league game. Hahn said it was taken out of context but people prefer to pound away at something that was never there.
CashMoney wrote:crzymdups wrote:CashMoney wrote:crzymdups wrote:this is called rationalization.
jeremy lin would have been fine. what wouldn't have been fine were the massive egos of james dolan and carmelo anthony who couldn't handle the success of a kid that had nothing to do with them. they were threatened and got rid of the problem.
Melo saying that he wanted Lin back is not enough for you?
...was that before or after he called Lin's contract ridiculous?
Melo is backed by CAA who are pretty involved in the Knicks power structure (Woodson/Melo/Houston, etc). Melo doesn't have to say a thing for his voice to be heard.
He called the structure of the contract ridiculous but feel free to keep hearing what you want. The day the statement was made he said he wanted Lin back but it was not up to him. There's a difference between print and audio which Hahn mentioned during the summer league game. Hahn said it was taken out of context but people prefer to pound away at something that was never there.
He also said he didn't request a trade from Denver. He also said he supported D'Antoni but it wasn't his decision.
But, sure, Melo is a hero and he tried his best to get Lin back but NY just couldn't afford it.
crzymdups wrote:CashMoney wrote:crzymdups wrote:CashMoney wrote:crzymdups wrote:this is called rationalization.
jeremy lin would have been fine. what wouldn't have been fine were the massive egos of james dolan and carmelo anthony who couldn't handle the success of a kid that had nothing to do with them. they were threatened and got rid of the problem.
Melo saying that he wanted Lin back is not enough for you?
...was that before or after he called Lin's contract ridiculous?
Melo is backed by CAA who are pretty involved in the Knicks power structure (Woodson/Melo/Houston, etc). Melo doesn't have to say a thing for his voice to be heard.
He called the structure of the contract ridiculous but feel free to keep hearing what you want. The day the statement was made he said he wanted Lin back but it was not up to him. There's a difference between print and audio which Hahn mentioned during the summer league game. Hahn said it was taken out of context but people prefer to pound away at something that was never there.
He also said he didn't request a trade from Denver. He also said he supported D'Antoni but it wasn't his decision.
But, sure, Melo is a hero and he tried his best to get Lin back but NY just couldn't afford it.
So Melo is now the GM of the Knicks? Great job to Melo than for bringing in Camby, Felton, Kidd and KT as well as resigning Novak and JR.
Dude, your Melo displeasure with regard to Lin should be at Dolan not Melo.
I hope Melo doesn't raise ticket prices this year
If Melo got MDA fired the man should get a parade for that.
Did you say "lynched"?
crzymdups wrote:Also, I like JR Smith and all, but it's funny to me that JR Smith is now some flag the Anti-Lin crowd is waving.... does NO ONE remember that JR Smith was one of the most hated players on the team this past season? And that Lin was beloved? Do you guys really forget that quickly?JR Smith was almost lynched here after his playoffs performance.
Crzymdups - enough with the hysteria and foul language. JR Smith was not hated by anyone except you. JR Smith competed with passion on defense for every possession in the playoffs, against The World Champions. He has admitted he wanted to shoot better but there was no such outcry over his performance. If it is not to much trouble to step down from your wild-eyed frenzy, you may want to rethink the use of the word "lynched"
At least JR Smith suited up.
Plain And Simple
The Sage - Jeremy Lin/ Williams & Connally running back to Morey and the Rockets (to up their offer) after the Knicks informed they would match the original offer was not cool.
In the eyes of The Dolan Family, they got too greedy and showed a sign of disrespect.
There is no Linsanity in Houston.
misterearl wrote:Did you say "lynched"?crzymdups wrote:Also, I like JR Smith and all, but it's funny to me that JR Smith is now some flag the Anti-Lin crowd is waving.... does NO ONE remember that JR Smith was one of the most hated players on the team this past season? And that Lin was beloved? Do you guys really forget that quickly?JR Smith was almost lynched here after his playoffs performance.
Crzymdups - enough with the hysteria and foul language. JR Smith was not hated by anyone except you. JR Smith competed with passion on defense for every possession in the playoffs, against The World Champions. He has admitted he wanted to shoot better but there was no such outcry over his performance. If it is not to much trouble to step down from your wild-eyed frenzy, you may want to rethink the use of the word "lynched"
At least JR Smith suited up.
People are way to hard on JR Smith the guy had to handle the rock and defend Lebron James.Might of had a small effect on his jump shot. JR wants to be here and took less money to stay.I think he deserves some respect for that
misterearl wrote:Plain And SimpleThe Sage - Jeremy Lin/ Williams & Connally running back to Morey and the Rockets (to up their offer) after the Knicks informed they would match the original offer was not cool.
In the eyes of The Dolan Family, they got too greedy and showed a sign of disrespect.
There is no Linsanity in Houston.
Yes, It seems as thought the re-do of the deal was the problem. If the Knicks had kept their mouth's shut to LIN and the world and just waited to get the deal officially, then LIN would still be here. Not a word to Lin or to the media.
I would like to know if it was HOuston that re-worked the deal and if that is considered shady by NBA standards or, if in fact did LIN go to Houston and tell them the Knicks will match and they better do something?
If it was Houston, then this is all on the Knicks. If it was Lin then this is on Lin.
I doubt we will ever know the truth. The anti-Lin group will always believe the Knicks and really don't care as they got their wish that Lin left. THe pro-Lin group will believe LIN if he ever says anything.
If JR wasnt on the Knicks U wouldnt enjoy his back and forth tweets we G Girls as much.at least I wouldnt.Much better tweets then this 1 as well.This was just the last 1 on my timeline
@ya_fave_girl playing golf to me is just so funny, i guess thugs play golf every now and then too lmao
@TheRealJRSmith Not a thug sweetie!
I would like to add that as the Knicks also courted Nash very strongly. I am sure that this did make Lin feel wanted, whereas Houston had Ming talking in his ear and telling him how bad he was wanted in Houston. So the more I think about it, the Knicks really screwed the pooch here. THen again, it is possible they never wanted Lin back and played everyone all along.
I just want the truth! .....
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:misterearl wrote:Plain And SimpleThe Sage - Jeremy Lin/ Williams & Connally running back to Morey and the Rockets (to up their offer) after the Knicks informed they would match the original offer was not cool.
In the eyes of The Dolan Family, they got too greedy and showed a sign of disrespect.
There is no Linsanity in Houston.
Yes, It seems as thought the re-do of the deal was the problem. If the Knicks had kept their mouth's shut to LIN and the world and just waited to get the deal officially, then LIN would still be here. Not a word to Lin or to the media.
I would like to know if it was HOuston that re-worked the deal and if that is considered shady by NBA standards or, if in fact did LIN go to Houston and tell them the Knicks will match and they better do something?
If it was Houston, then this is all on the Knicks. If it was Lin then this is on Lin.
I doubt we will ever know the truth. The anti-Lin group will always believe the Knicks and really don't care as they got their wish that Lin left. THe pro-Lin group will believe LIN if he ever says anything.
I read an article yesterday but can't find it now that stated the Rockets broke an unwritten NBA rule. Come to think of it I can't ever remember hearing that an offer sheet was going to be given to a player for x amount of years and $$$$ only to have it changed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/19/sports/basketball/daryl-morey-has-second-shot-with-jeremy-lin.html?ref=sports
CashMoney wrote:d an article yesterday but can't find it now that stated the Rockets broke an unwritten NBA rule. Come to think of it I can't ever remember hearing that an offer sheet was going to be given to a player for x amount of years and $$$$ only to have it changed.
Five months later, Morey ensured he would not make the same mistake. The Rockets courted Lin harder than any other team, the Knicks included. They made an initial offer of three years and $19 million — the only formal offer Lin received — during the July moratorium, so named because deals can be negotiated but not signed.
When the Knicks publicly declared they would match the deal, Morey bumped the offer to $25 million, with a $14.9 million balloon payment in the third year that was explicitly intended to make the Knicks squirm. As a high-payroll team, the Knicks would have had to pay a staggering luxury tax, as much as $35 million, in that final season.
Lin and his agents at Williams & Connally got greedy. Morey was desperate to correct his mistake.
Ok, but on ESPN Radio they were just talking about it and the fact is that Lin ever signed the so called original offer. The Rockets leaked the offer, the Knicks stupidly said they would match. Broussard says that Lin did not leak 3 for 19 AND did not go back to Houston to get more $$. IT was all due to Knicks mishandling!
What a bunch of idiots. Now they are bad mouthing Lin with the 85% BS and the Agent crap! Stephen A, is the mouthpiece for DOLAN. He is spouting exactly what they want him to!
Even more reasons to really dislike the owner of this team. They screwed up, and instead of making the right basketball decision and fixing their mistake, they pouted and look like a bunch of babies! At the same time, they have lost the best story that they have had in years and turned it into an ugly, acrimonious ending!
