Knicks · wow...melo carrying usa team (page 2)

Fiba officials make you appreciate the NBA officials that much more. These officials are awful. Lots of questionable and inconsistent calls for both teams.

For a team that doesn't have many 3 point shooters, I think we rely on the 3 way too much. I love the pressure defense, but we are not utilizing all of the weapons on this team as of yet. We (USA) should be slashing and cutting off the ball more than we are doing. Also, would like to see Lebron in the post some....

Uptown wrote:Fiba officials make you appreciate the NBA officials that much more. These officials are awful. Lots of questionable and inconsistent calls for both teams.

Except when the Knicks are playing

Uptown wrote:For a team that doesn't have many 3 point shooters, I think we rely on the 3 way too much. I love the pressure defense, but we are not utilizing all of the weapons on this team as of yet. We (USA) should be slashing and cutting off the ball more than we are doing. Also, would like to see Lebron in the post some....

The FIBA 3 is shorter than an NBA 3 by like 2 ft.

CashMoney wrote:

Uptown wrote:For a team that doesn't have many 3 point shooters, I think we rely on the 3 way too much. I love the pressure defense, but we are not utilizing all of the weapons on this team as of yet. We (USA) should be slashing and cutting off the ball more than we are doing. Also, would like to see Lebron in the post some....

The FIBA 3 is shorter than an NBA 3 by like 2 ft.

Players do not look proportioned on the court. It looks like everything is smaller

BasketballJones wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

callmened wrote:@bball jones...how could u or anyone criticize the half melo had...not only is he making shots...but hes playing GREAT D

sarcasm

...without smileys....

Papabear Says

Well you better get used to Melo because he ain't going nowhere. You will probably become a Nets fan before Melo stop being a Knicks. LOL

Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

Bonn1997 wrote:Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

Since when do you look at footage?

Its all in the numbers, my friend

Bonn1997 wrote:Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

I think its on again at 10 PM

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

Since when do you look at footage?

Its all in the numbers, my friend

You've misinterpeted me - at least, there is no currently available form of sabermetrics that explains 100% of the variance in team wins. In almost every field, statistical forms of assessment work best but intuition then makes a slight but meaningful additional contribution. Even if I did think it was all in the currently available numbers, though, I could still watch footage just for enjoyment.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

Since when do you look at footage?

Its all in the numbers, my friend

You've misinterpeted me - at least, there is no currently available form of sabermetrics that explains 100% of the variance in team wins. In almost every field, statistical forms of assessment work best but intuition then makes a slight but meaningful additional contribution. Even if I did think it was all in the currently available numbers, though, I could still watch footage just for enjoyment.

Are U a Melo Hater? because Melo played well if u dislike him U may not like what u see

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

Since when do you look at footage?

Its all in the numbers, my friend

You've misinterpeted me - at least, there is no currently available form of sabermetrics that explains 100% of the variance in team wins. In almost every field, statistical forms of assessment work best but intuition then makes a slight but meaningful additional contribution. Even if I did think it was all in the currently available numbers, though, I could still watch footage just for enjoyment.

Would you enjoy seeing Melo play well or will that just infuriate you ?

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Anyone have a video of the highlights from this game?

Since when do you look at footage?

Its all in the numbers, my friend

You've misinterpeted me - at least, there is no currently available form of sabermetrics that explains 100% of the variance in team wins. In almost every field, statistical forms of assessment work best but intuition then makes a slight but meaningful additional contribution. Even if I did think it was all in the currently available numbers, though, I could still watch footage just for enjoyment.

Would you enjoy seeing Melo play well or will that just infuriate you ?

I would love it. That's why I wanted to see the footage. I already know the evidence is clear that statistical approaches to assessment have more explanatory power than intuition does. One case does not change that. If melo proved me wrong, it wouldn't change the general conclusion in the area of assessment. It would just make the Knicks a more exciting team.

What is that evidence? I am filing a motion for discovery.

mrKnickShot wrote:What is that evidence? I am filing a motion for discovery.

If you look up "actuarial vs. clinical assessment" or "statistical vs. intuitive assessment" and use related terms, you'll find a huge body of research. Most of it is in the context of predicting violent behavior but some of it is in other contexts and the same general pattern emerges - actuarial (or statistical) approaches do best but clinical or intuitive ones do add a little.

I dont know what i hate more melo haters or melo fanboys. Im just rooting for melo because im a knick fan and he gives us a better chance to win

IrishKnickFan wrote:I dont know what i hate more melo haters or melo fanboys. Im just rooting for melo because im a knick fan and he gives us a better chance to win

I'd say if he plays intelligently on offense and tries hard on defense, he does.

On another note Chandler clearly was frustrated by the Fiba Refs and didnt play particularly well. I hate to say it but he didnt look like he belonged on the court with the US team today. It was embarrassing

Bonn1997 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:I dont know what i hate more melo haters or melo fanboys. Im just rooting for melo because im a knick fan and he gives us a better chance to win

I'd say if he plays intelligently on offense and tries hard on defense, he does.

You dont have to love melo but i think you take it too far. Belive me melo has things to prove to us this year and beyond but you cant keep on hating the guy just like others cant keep defending him all the time

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:What is that evidence? I am filing a motion for discovery.

If you look up "actuarial vs. clinical assessment" or "statistical vs. intuitive assessment" and use related terms, you'll find a huge body of research. Most of it is in the context of predicting violent behavior but some of it is in other contexts and the same general pattern emerges - actuarial (or statistical) approaches do best but clinical or intuitive ones do add a little.

Those assessments are mostly focused on Life Insurance policy/expectancy or similar assessments.

In sports, knowledge and understanding statistics will support intuition with the data in hand.

Both are important - not sure which one is more important but I would say stats but then, stats/people can delve deeper and deeper and I am not sure that there is a return at that point, and, when this happens, they start watching fewer and fewer games.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:I dont know what i hate more melo haters or melo fanboys. Im just rooting for melo because im a knick fan and he gives us a better chance to win

I'd say if he plays intelligently on offense and tries hard on defense, he does.

You dont have to love melo but i think you take it too far. Belive me melo has things to prove to us this year and beyond but you cant keep on hating the guy just like others cant keep defending him all the time

Well I've mentioned that some of my comments (like calling him Mr. .470) are just tongue in cheek. I stand by my criticisms of him but I take it too far for entertainment purposes at times and don't always insert the tongue in cheek emoticon.