Knicks · Stoudemire will pay Hakeem Olajuwon $100,000 for two weeks of tutelage (page 1)

GustavBahler @ 7/24/2012 9:22 PM
Stat is rich but that's still a big investment and it shows how serious he is about elevating his game.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-d...


"More than any other NBA team — more than the Lakers, even, for once — the New York Knicks' 2012-13 fortunes have been bandied about incessantly this summer. With a respected yet aging crew of helpers brought in to offset the losses of Jeremy Lin and Landry Fields in the wake of a strange 2011-12 that seemed to feature three or four significantly different versions of the Knicks, we've all had our fun taking apart what this year's model might look like. And, perhaps strangest of all, none of these anticipations seemed to hold former All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire in high regard.

There's a reason for that. Stoudemire fell off like a lead balloon with New York last season, working through back woes and appearing out of shape on his way toward his worst all-around season since his rookie year. As a response, word came out in June that Stoudemire was planning on working with Basketball Hall of Famer Hakeem Olajuwon this offseason in an attempt to straighten his game out. Now, according to Alan Hahn (currently working with MSG, late of Newsday, and typing through Sulia), we know The Dream's price tag. And it ain't cheap:

Stoudemire will spend two weeks with Hakeem Olajuwon in Houston next month. The cost of learning The Dream Shake? $50,000 a week is what we were told. Now, we don't know of Olajuwon is charging Stoudemire full price, but Amar'e plans to get bang for his buck. He said he plans to memorize every lesson so he can expand his game to include one or two go-to moves on the post.

Alan went on to remind us that Mike Woodson, the coach of the Knicks that seemed to have so much success with Stoudemire off the court last year and Carmelo Anthony working at the power forward slot, was a teammate of Olajuwon's from 1988-1991. And that the Knicks coach, perhaps wary of a Knicks career spent without his team's second-highest paid player being thought of as second rate, is trying to reinforce the ideal of Stoudemire as a post-up cat nonpareil. He's asked, according to Hahn, Olajuwon to work on Stoudemire's back to the basket game.

Of course, developing a post-up routine 11 seasons into an NBA career is no easy task, but Stoudemire might boast the smarts and footwork needed to pull it off. Amar'e busted into this league as an athlete with touch, leaping over others and working a screen and roll game expertly with point guards as disparate as Stephon Marbury, Leandro Barbosa (back when he was run as a point man) and Steve Nash. Crippling knee and scary eye injuries took him away from the game for a spell, but Stoudemire returned as a spot-up player with sound instincts and sustained touch, and was able to adapt as a result.

Post-up play has long been considered an old man's game. Stoudemire certainly looked the part last season, so why not pair the two? It isn't as if he's lacking in length, down there, either.

The price tag is what interests us, as you can tell by the headline. Paying Olajuwon six figures for two weeks of help is a significant investment, and Stoudemire should be credited in this regard. Hakeem once spent his summers banging and learning with Moses Malone, and though he's charging a fee that Moses could only have dreamed of some 30 years ago, his history of getting through to players like LeBron James and Dwight Howard (who, criticism aside, has improved since spending time with Hakeem — the one-time nemesis of former Orlando Magic assistant coach Patrick Ewing) seems worth the price tag.

If anything works for Stoudemire, who is set to make nearly $65 million over the next three years of his deal, it will be worth it. Not that this will affect the checks hitting Amar'e's bank account (the amnesty provision doesn't cancel out guaranteed contracts), but the Knicks have already used their amnesty whoopy-whoops on Chauncey Billups, so the 29-year-old Stoudemire will be around until 2015. He's not going anywhere, and though it was pretty clear the Knicks did not play well with him in the rotation during 2011-12, this could change with an orthodox season that doesn't feature lockout-hamstrung practice habits.

In shape, and looking to work down low, Stoudemire could help mitigate the loss of a penetrator like Lin and ease Anthony's frustrations; because, for all Carmelo's earned criticism, he truly was out there by himself offensively as the Knicks lost in five games to the Miami Heat during last season's playoffs. Stoudemire was a terrible pairing even with defensive-minded center Tyson Chandler, struggling to stay in front of power forwards and find space in a Knicks offense that seemed to feature him incessantly at the left elbow prior to the trade that brought in Anthony in February of 2011. His 17.7 Player Efficiency Rating was his lowest since that 2002-03 rookie season, and that number doesn't even take into considering his poor on and off ball defense. This bleating on is a long way of saying that it was a rough year.

New York's offseason has been a joke, there's no way around that James Dolan-influenced fact. But if Amar'e is taking a six-figure chunk out of his pay in order to become a force in 2012-13? If this previously ignored wrinkle becomes a dependable asset, with Stoudemire drawing fouls and finding room to work amongst Anthony's ball-holding and Chandler's presence? Especially in the playoffs, matching up against Eastern power forwards that fall short of Stoudemire's 6-10 frame?

It only took six months of play for us to completely dismiss the idea of Amar'e Stoudemire, Game Changer. Perhaps six figures worth of pay could change this. How cool would that be?"

Bonn1997 @ 7/24/2012 9:50 PM
I give Amare a lot of credit for this.
CashMoney @ 7/24/2012 9:53 PM
How cool would that be? Very cool.

For as much as I think that Felton is going to be playing with a chip on his shoulder this year and think that's even more true for STAT.

If STAT breaks out a dream shake during a game I'll lose my s**t.

ChuckBuck @ 7/24/2012 9:55 PM
If he could learn 1 or 2 Post/Pivot moves in addition to the Pick and Roll game with Felton, it'll make the Knicks more efficient in the half court offense for sure.
ToddTT @ 7/24/2012 10:06 PM
Damn... I wouldn't have been surprised if Hakeem had just done it for love of the game.

If I were Amare I might have decided to just watch some game tape instead.

If this is the kind of dedication Amare is putting into the offseason, I can't wait to see the results.

franco12 @ 7/24/2012 10:21 PM
Hakeem never made a lot of money- so why don't the knicks hire him, pay him $1-3M per year for exclusive, 100% training of all the knick players?
IrishKnickFan @ 7/24/2012 10:27 PM
its good to see hakeen helping us after costing us a title in 1994 haha
CashMoney @ 7/24/2012 10:32 PM
franco12 wrote:Hakeem never made a lot of money- so why don't the knicks hire him, pay him $1-3M per year for exclusive, 100% training of all the knick players?

Hakeem made over $100 million in his career.

EnySpree @ 7/24/2012 10:39 PM
So what is Herb getting paid for?
BasketballJones @ 7/24/2012 10:40 PM
EnySpree wrote:So what is Herb getting paid for?

Herb

EnySpree @ 7/24/2012 10:45 PM

apparently Herb did have somewhat of a post game and did block shots and score.....I personally don't remember any of this

Bonn1997 @ 7/24/2012 10:54 PM
EnySpree wrote:

apparently Herb did have somewhat of a post game and did block shots and score.....I personally don't remember any of this


It's pretty hard to play 18 years and have no highlights!
EnySpree @ 7/24/2012 10:56 PM

This is Hakeem teaching Howard....Howard hasn't used any of this shit in real games.....

Amare would be unstoppable if he learned how to spin dribble and fake the way Hakeem does....

btw...anybody thing Hakeem can probably still play a bench role even at his age? He looks really good in the videos

IrishKnickFan @ 7/25/2012 12:09 AM
Hakeem keeps himself in great shape he probably could still play competitive ball if he wanted too
nixluva @ 7/25/2012 12:15 AM
Man I miss Hakeem! I just marveled at the beauty and precision of his moves. The creativity!!! I'm shocked that more bigmen haven't gone to him cuz he was the best moving bigman i've ever seen. McHale was also unbelievable, but Hakeem took it to another level.

What you see is that there's more to than just watching tape of Hakeem. There's a thought process that goes into it and that's why i'm glad STAT is going to learn from him. I think STAT has the right skills and physical talent to actually be able to execute Hakeem's moves. Also what I like about Hakeem's game is that it's not a banging bruising kind of post game, which I dont' think STAT would be good at with his back. It's a finesse post game which I think totally fits STAT's style much better. If he can get that Fade away jumper down he'd be unstoppable.

SupremeCommander @ 7/25/2012 12:20 AM
grainy video, but

Amar'e is certainly athletic enough to pull it off

BigDaddyG @ 7/25/2012 12:22 AM
If I were Hakeem, I would've given Lebron James a discount just so I could build a reputation. The Dream couldn't have received better advertising than this year's NBA finals. If I'm the Hornet's, I'd go as high as $500,000 to make Hakeem the personal coach of Anthony Davis. The more I think about this, the sadder I get. Hakeem is probably making more as a coach than Patrick Ewing.
DJMUSIC @ 7/25/2012 1:17 AM
it still wont help Stoudemire
cant blame him for trying Hakeem
EnySpree @ 7/25/2012 6:56 AM
Scoring is about creating space.....A'mare has always been a bully. Against a flopping defense like Miami he's dead.....all i need for him to do is develop a nice spin with both hands and add some fakes, like up and unders and man o man......he should hit up Larry Johnson too....Larry was great at that too especially being under size
GustavBahler @ 7/25/2012 8:48 AM
EnySpree wrote:Scoring is about creating space.....A'mare has always been a bully. Against a flopping defense like Miami he's dead.....all i need for him to do is develop a nice spin with both hands and add some fakes, like up and unders and man o man......he should hit up Larry Johnson too....Larry was great at that too especially being under size

I agree. Just want to see him able to do more than camp around the rim to get his points in the paint. I doubt that anyone is going to confuse Stat with Hakeem next season, like you said, a few go to moves to keep the defense honest and spread the floor would be great.

I always did marvel how LJ could post up big men, showed how commited he was to helping the team. Not many players at LJ's stage in his career would have considered it. Glad Amar'e is trying to go the same route.

Jmpasq @ 7/25/2012 9:01 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:If I were Hakeem, I would've given Lebron James a discount just so I could build a reputation. The Dream couldn't have received better advertising than this year's NBA finals. If I'm the Hornet's, I'd go as high as $500,000 to make Hakeem the personal coach of Anthony Davis. The more I think about this, the sadder I get. Hakeem is probably making more as a coach than Patrick Ewing.

Seriously we should have Ewing sitting on are bench working with Amare and Chandler all the time

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