Off Topic · Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, -please run em' over regular FLATMAN & RIBBON (page 1)

DJMUSIC @ 8/16/2012 11:14 PM
Obama may or may not be popular this yr but these two Mitt and Ryan are going to be interesting.

Interestingly bad !
opposites truly attract

jrodmc @ 8/17/2012 12:20 PM
What's funny is your dopey old VP beats them both in a stupidity race without even trying.
DJMUSIC @ 8/19/2012 10:22 PM
jrodmc wrote:What's funny is your dopey old VP beats them both in a stupidity race without even trying.

your VP
it is dumb agree


but isnt he your/our VP & P ?
USA ? or are you from another country or a brother from another .. Mother ?
.f.,...

jrodmc @ 8/20/2012 9:43 AM
Good point. Obama is my POTUS.

I was speaking in the "voted for" my and yours view, or did you "own" the Bushman too...?

Brother from another mother, but we all got the same Father???

DJMUSIC @ 8/20/2012 10:23 PM
jrodmc wrote:Good point. Obama is my POTUS.

I was speaking in the "voted for" my and yours view, or did you "own" the Bushman too...?

Brother from another mother, but we all got the same Father???


LOL*

love it, Good one !
alright bro

GustavBahler @ 8/22/2012 7:01 PM
Good news or bad news depending on where you stand, but its still early.


If the economy remains the same between now and November, Mitt Romney will win the 2012 elections, according to a model that correctly predicted the last eight presidential elections.

The election model, created by University of Colorado political science professors Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry, predicts that if the election were held today President Barack Obama would win only 218 votes in the Electoral College, short of the 270 he needs. Romney would win 320 electoral votes.

The prediction is based on a number of economic measures, including both state-by-state and national data.

“Based on variables of relative employment across the 50 states and rising or falling real income across the 50 states we’re able to go back and analyze how the states have come out over the last 8 election cycles,” Bickers said. “In this election cycle what that model shows is that the Obama-Biden ticket is likely to lose the election.”

“For the last eight presidential elections, this model has correctly predicted the winner,” Berry added in a press release. “The economy has seen some improvement since President Obama took office. What remains to be seen is whether voters will consider the economy in relative or absolute terms. If it’s the former, the president may receive credit for the economy’s trajectory and win a second term. In the latter case, Romney should pick up a number of states Obama won in 2008.”

According to their forecast, Obama would lose almost all of the major swing states, including North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Obama’s re-election chances are hampered, according to the model, because of the high unemployment rate. Despite an increase in job growth, the national unemployment rate was at 8.3 percent in July, according to the Labor Department.

Berry said that “the apparent advantage of being a Democratic candidate and holding the White House disappears when the national unemployment rate hits 5.6 percent.” He also noted “that the incumbency advantage enjoyed by President Obama, though statistically significant, is not great enough to offset high rates of unemployment currently experienced in many of the states.”

Although their model correctly predicted all presidential elections since 1980, Bickers and Berry acknowledged some factors not considered by their analysis could swing the election. In addition, changes in the economic health of the country from now until the election will alter the results of the model.

“As scholars and pundits well know, each election has unique elements that could lead one or more states to behave in ways in a particular election that the model is unable to correctly predict,” Berry said.

Berry and Bickers model did not account for elections before 1980 and — like any model — it is has limited predictive power. But the election model strongly suggests that the economy is the driving force behind a presidential candidate’s success or failure.

“It’s not about gaffes, political commercials or day-to-day campaign tactics. I find that heartening for our democracy,” Bickers said.

jrodmc @ 8/23/2012 7:37 AM
For the first time I can honestly remember, I'm hearing pundits say that Obama doesn't seem too enamored with the job anymore.

Has any incumbent that was this wildly popular going into office ever thrown a presidential re-election? Weird.

Bonn1997 @ 8/23/2012 7:55 AM
It's very easy to be popular initially when you're replacing one of the least popular presidents in our nation's history.
jaydh @ 8/23/2012 8:04 AM
There is a lot of influence coming down from the top in this election.

A friend of mine works at General Dynamics. They received an email from the president of the company that if congress doesn't balance the budget by the end of the year that their will be layoffs at the company.

As well all know, Congress is just doing whatever it can to prevent Obama from getting anything done. So, it is inevitable, but has also swayed people working there to vote for Mitt, thinking it could save their jobs. Scary times ahead.

GustavBahler @ 8/23/2012 8:05 PM
Respected pollster Nate Silver is saying that their methology is flawed and that they're using a new model. It should be close either way.

GustavBahler wrote:Good news or bad news depending on where you stand, but its still early.


If the economy remains the same between now and November, Mitt Romney will win the 2012 elections, according to a model that correctly predicted the last eight presidential elections.

The election model, created by University of Colorado political science professors Kenneth Bickers and Michael Berry, predicts that if the election were held today President Barack Obama would win only 218 votes in the Electoral College, short of the 270 he needs. Romney would win 320 electoral votes.

The prediction is based on a number of economic measures, including both state-by-state and national data.

“Based on variables of relative employment across the 50 states and rising or falling real income across the 50 states we’re able to go back and analyze how the states have come out over the last 8 election cycles,” Bickers said. “In this election cycle what that model shows is that the Obama-Biden ticket is likely to lose the election.”

“For the last eight presidential elections, this model has correctly predicted the winner,” Berry added in a press release. “The economy has seen some improvement since President Obama took office. What remains to be seen is whether voters will consider the economy in relative or absolute terms. If it’s the former, the president may receive credit for the economy’s trajectory and win a second term. In the latter case, Romney should pick up a number of states Obama won in 2008.”

According to their forecast, Obama would lose almost all of the major swing states, including North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. Obama’s re-election chances are hampered, according to the model, because of the high unemployment rate. Despite an increase in job growth, the national unemployment rate was at 8.3 percent in July, according to the Labor Department.

Berry said that “the apparent advantage of being a Democratic candidate and holding the White House disappears when the national unemployment rate hits 5.6 percent.” He also noted “that the incumbency advantage enjoyed by President Obama, though statistically significant, is not great enough to offset high rates of unemployment currently experienced in many of the states.”

Although their model correctly predicted all presidential elections since 1980, Bickers and Berry acknowledged some factors not considered by their analysis could swing the election. In addition, changes in the economic health of the country from now until the election will alter the results of the model.

“As scholars and pundits well know, each election has unique elements that could lead one or more states to behave in ways in a particular election that the model is unable to correctly predict,” Berry said.

Berry and Bickers model did not account for elections before 1980 and — like any model — it is has limited predictive power. But the election model strongly suggests that the economy is the driving force behind a presidential candidate’s success or failure.

“It’s not about gaffes, political commercials or day-to-day campaign tactics. I find that heartening for our democracy,” Bickers said.

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