Knicks · Gallo Beware: NBA finalizing flopping procedures... (page 1)

Spokesman Tim Frank said Thursday the league is finalizing procedures to deal with flopping, the art of falling down when little or no contact was made in an effort to trick referees into calling a foul.

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Stern If you continue to do this, you may you have to suffer some consequences. What those exactly should be and what the progression is, is to be decided, because ... we just want to put a stake in the ground that says this is not something that we want to be part of our game.
” -- David Stern on flopping

Frank said the competition committee met two weeks ago and discussed plans that would go in place this season. Commissioner David Stern believes too many players are deceiving referees by flopping and has been seeking a way to properly penalize them.

The procedures likely will involve a postgame review of the play by the league office, rather than an official calling an infraction during the game, Frank said. Players likely would be fined if the league determined they flopped.

The proposed plan mirrors a "postgame analysis" option Stern discussed after the competition committee met in June. The league already retroactively reviews flagrant fouls to determine if they need to be upgraded or downgraded.

"If you continue to do this, you may you have to suffer some consequences," Stern said about flopping during the NBA Finals. "What those exactly should be and what the progression is, is to be decided, because ... we just want to put a stake in the ground that says this is not something that we want to be part of our game, without coming down with a sledgehammer but just doing it in a minimalist way to begin stamping it out. And I think there are ways we can do that and we'll have to wait and see exactly what we come up with."

The league's 62-person referee staff is holding its training camp, its first under the leadership of former NBA player and longtime league executive Mike Bantom. Bantom replaced Gen. Ron Johnson as executive vice president of referee operations earlier this month.

"I think one of the things that I'd just like to focus on is I think there's a perception out there that kind of throws into question sometimes the competence of our officials and even the integrity of them at times, and I think that that's not true to begin with and unfair, and I want to try and change that perception," said Bantom, who had been the league's senior vice president of player development since 1999.

AnubisADL wrote:Lol. Uh oh. Less free throws for Gallo.

I wonder what that will do to his TS. His FG aint too good.

Fine them? Suspend them?

This is going to be very hard on the Euros like Manu who are very effective at it.

How will they define it? All players should exaggerate an offensive foul to "sell it" but are they talking about falling when no contact?

It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

dk7th wrote:some people confuse the art of drawing fouls with flopping. they are probably going to focus on the defensive flopping more anyway.

Can they go after Paul Pierce and his "offensive" flopping? That is really hard to watch.

Nalod wrote:

dk7th wrote:some people confuse the art of drawing fouls with flopping. they are probably going to focus on the defensive flopping more anyway.

Can they go after Paul Pierce and his "offensive" flopping? That is really hard to watch.

i think there is a difference between gamesmanship and cheating although it's hard to know where that line is. gallinari is clearly using the same "head throw back" trick that pierce has successfully parlayed into elite foul-drawing.

since that move pre-dates the whole flopping epidemic (varejau is one of the poster boys, parlaying his doofus hair into the flopping repertoire) i doubt either pierce or gallo are going to be fined.

what bothers me are the guys getting shot out of cannons or acting like they were hit with a bat, after a simple, and ordinary contact is made... or heck none at all.. look at the gifs above.. what reggie evans and chris bosh along with lebron are doing is absolutely shameful...

tkf wrote:I can understand some guys selling excessive contact... make no mistake, gallo gets a lot of contact..and he sells it... but there is enough contact there for a legit foul..

what bothers me are the guys getting shot out of cannons or acting like they were hit with a bat, after a simple, and ordinary contact is made... or heck none at all.. look at the gifs above.. what reggie evans and chris bosh along with lebron are doing is absolutely shameful...

C'mon.

Gallo has become the ultimate flopper in the league.

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:I can understand some guys selling excessive contact... make no mistake, gallo gets a lot of contact..and he sells it... but there is enough contact there for a legit foul..

what bothers me are the guys getting shot out of cannons or acting like they were hit with a bat, after a simple, and ordinary contact is made... or heck none at all.. look at the gifs above.. what reggie evans and chris bosh along with lebron are doing is absolutely shameful...

C'mon.

Gallo has become the ultimate flopper in the league.

He really has come into his own in this league. If there was a #NBARank for Flopping, he'd be maybe 1b to Manu.

I hate flopping and I hate the defensive charge outside of the restricted circle area. Get rid of this garbage once and for all.

3G4G wrote:Flopping is a Disgrace no matter who's doing it. I probably take more offense to someone like Lebron doing it. Especially in the gif against the Mavs. He flopped because he had nowhere to go off dribble penetration. IMO it should be an automatic technical foul because it shames the integrity of the game.

I hate flopping and I hate the defensive charge outside of the restricted circle area. Get rid of this garbage once and for all.

Unfortunately, looks like it's going to be a retroactive penalty system, so no in-game technicals. So they'll still flop in the games, but hopefully players get the point once fines hits their wallets.

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:I can understand some guys selling excessive contact... make no mistake, gallo gets a lot of contact..and he sells it... but there is enough contact there for a legit foul..

what bothers me are the guys getting shot out of cannons or acting like they were hit with a bat, after a simple, and ordinary contact is made... or heck none at all.. look at the gifs above.. what reggie evans and chris bosh along with lebron are doing is absolutely shameful...

C'mon.

Gallo has become the ultimate flopper in the league.

He really has come into his own in this league. If there was a #NBARank for Flopping, he'd be maybe 1b to Manu.

kobe stepped on his foot... usually when that happens... the human body when in motion tends to fall down....

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:I can understand some guys selling excessive contact... make no mistake, gallo gets a lot of contact..and he sells it... but there is enough contact there for a legit foul..

what bothers me are the guys getting shot out of cannons or acting like they were hit with a bat, after a simple, and ordinary contact is made... or heck none at all.. look at the gifs above.. what reggie evans and chris bosh along with lebron are doing is absolutely shameful...

C'mon.

Gallo has become the ultimate flopper in the league.

He really has come into his own in this league. If there was a #NBARank for Flopping, he'd be maybe 1b to Manu.

kobe stepped on his foot... usually when that happens... the human body when in motion tends to fall down....

I watched that clip 20 times and even paused it...Kobe didn't step on his foot.

I know you still have an affinity for Gallo, but the evidence is right in front of you, don't pull a replacement ref and feign ignorance!

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:I can understand some guys selling excessive contact... make no mistake, gallo gets a lot of contact..and he sells it... but there is enough contact there for a legit foul..

what bothers me are the guys getting shot out of cannons or acting like they were hit with a bat, after a simple, and ordinary contact is made... or heck none at all.. look at the gifs above.. what reggie evans and chris bosh along with lebron are doing is absolutely shameful...

C'mon.

Gallo has become the ultimate flopper in the league.

He really has come into his own in this league. If there was a #NBARank for Flopping, he'd be maybe 1b to Manu.

kobe stepped on his foot... usually when that happens... the human body when in motion tends to fall down....

I watched that clip 20 times and even paused it...Kobe didn't step on his foot.

I know you still have an affinity for Gallo, but the evidence is right in front of you, don't pull a replacement ref and feign ignorance!