Knicks · The Name.........."Knickerbockers" (page 1)

Nalod @ 10/3/2012 11:35 AM
Just a bit of historical reference while we get ready for the new season.

(I took this from the knick website)

THE NAME ...

The term "Knickerbockers" traces its origin back to the Dutch settlers who came to the New World -- and especially to what is now New York -- in the 1600s. Specifically, it refers to the style of pants the settlers wore ... pants that rolled up just below the knee, which became known as "Knickerbockers," or "knickers".

Through history, the Dutch settler "Knickerbocker" character became synonymous with New York City. The city's most popular symbol of the late 19th and early 20th centuries was "Father Knickerbocker," complete with cotton wig, three-cornered hat, buckled shoes, and, of course, knickered pants.

The Knickerbocker name had its first use in the world of sports in 1845, when Alexander Cartwright's Manhattan-based baseball team -- the first organized team in baseball history -- was named the "New York Knickerbockers" or the "Knickerbocker Nine." The Knickerbocker name stayed with the team even after it moved its base of operations to Elysian Fields at Hoboken, N.J. in 1846. (The baseball link may have prompted Casey Stengel to joyously exclaim, "It's great to be back as the manager of the Knickerbockers!" when he was named pilot of the newborn Mets in 1961.)

Thus, the Knickerbocker name was an integral part of the New York scene when the Basketball Association of America granted a charter franchise to the city in the summer of 1946. As can best be determined, the final decision to call the team the "Knickerbockers" was made by the club's founder, the legendary Ned Irish.

"The name came out of a hat," recalled Fred Podesta, the longtime Garden executive who passed away at age 86 in 1999. "We were all sitting in the office one day -- Irish, (public relations director) Lester Scott and a few others on the staff. We each put a name in the hat, and when we pulled them out, most of them said Knickerbockers, after Father Knickerbocker, the symbol of New York City. It soon was shortened to Knicks."

In keeping with another New York tradition, the team's colors have always (except for the years from 1980-81 through 1982-83) been orange, blue and white. . .the official colors of New York City.

Why "Knickerbockers"? Why not??

Father Knickerbocker Logo
The original Knicks logo, used from the inaugural 1946-47 season through 1963-64, was that of a Father Knickerbocker figure dribbling a basketball, the brainchild of famed sports cartoonist Willard Mullin of the New York World-Telegram.

NUPE @ 10/3/2012 11:43 AM
Good info. I knew Knickerbockers were essentially pant-shorts of some sort but did not know the full history. Thanks.
93BUICK @ 10/3/2012 1:08 PM
The Capri Pants!
GodNa7ion @ 10/3/2012 2:55 PM
meh should have been named the Storm

New York Storm has a helluva ring to it

ChuckBuck @ 10/3/2012 4:12 PM
GodNa7ion wrote:meh should have been named the Storm

New York Storm has a helluva ring to it

I think St. John's has Red Storm already.

Nalod @ 10/3/2012 4:42 PM
GodNa7ion wrote:meh should have been named the Storm

New York Storm has a helluva ring to it

St Johns used to be the "Redman".

We talking 1946! tThink of the names back then!

I wish they would have listed what some of the other names considered were.

Glad it was not "the HighTops"!

Always thought the Harlem Rens (Renassaince) was a great name! I wonder if Brooklyn considered a derivative.

Anyone have any thoughts to a name the Knicks could have considered?

Remember the original 11:


Boston Celtics
Chicago Stags
Cleveland Rebels
Detroit Falcons
New York Knickerbockers
Philadelphia Warriors
Pittsburgh Ironmen
Providence Steam Rollers
St. Louis Bombers
Toronto Huskies
Washington Capitols

defunct cities teams:

Rochester, Cincinatti Royals (became the Kings)
Chicago Packers, Zephers
Milwaikee, St Louis, Hawks
Fort Wayne Pistons
Syracuse Nationals
Tri cities Blackhawks
Buffalo Braves
Seattle Supersonics

This is the most wrong logo:

arkrud @ 10/3/2012 6:36 PM
Nalod wrote:
GodNa7ion wrote:meh should have been named the Storm

New York Storm has a helluva ring to it

St Johns used to be the "Redman".

We talking 1946! tThink of the names back then!

I wish they would have listed what some of the other names considered were.

Glad it was not "the HighTops"!

Always thought the Harlem Rens (Renassaince) was a great name! I wonder if Brooklyn considered a derivative.

Anyone have any thoughts to a name the Knicks could have considered?

Remember the original 11:


Boston Celtics
Chicago Stags
Cleveland Rebels
Detroit Falcons
New York Knickerbockers
Philadelphia Warriors
Pittsburgh Ironmen
Providence Steam Rollers
St. Louis Bombers
Toronto Huskies
Washington Capitols

defunct cities teams:

Rochester, Cincinatti Royals (became the Kings)
Chicago Packers, Zephers
Milwaikee, St Louis, Hawks
Fort Wayne Pistons
Syracuse Nationals
Tri cities Blackhawks
Buffalo Braves
Seattle Supersonics

This is the most wrong logo:

Looks like jewish Indian...

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