Knicks · Hey Let's Discuss Jeremy Lin's not being up to his game in Houston. He claims lingering injury?? (page 4)
IrishKnickFan@ 10/11/2012 10:09 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
matt wrote:Why can't I like both Melo and Lin?
Because some folks want to divide this board into "lovers" and "haters".
Exactly. Lin fans are mad because they feel melo pushed him out. And Melo fans are mad because they feel their guy gets too much blame and not enough respect
NYKBocker@ 10/11/2012 10:21 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
matt wrote:Why can't I like both Melo and Lin?
Because some folks want to divide this board into "lovers" and "haters".
Exactly. Lin fans are mad because they feel melo pushed him out. And Melo fans are mad because they feel their guy gets too much blame and not enough respect
I for one is neutral towards Melo. My hate is directed towards Dolan.
IrishKnickFan@ 10/11/2012 10:23 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
matt wrote:Why can't I like both Melo and Lin?
Because some folks want to divide this board into "lovers" and "haters".
Exactly. Lin fans are mad because they feel melo pushed him out. And Melo fans are mad because they feel their guy gets too much blame and not enough respect
I for one is neutral towards Melo. My hate is directed towards Dolan.
Me too. I dont hate Melo at all but i do feel he needs to prove himself. He has started out on the right foot by coming in camp in great shape
jrodmc@ 10/11/2012 10:25 AM
Jeremy Lin 2012-13 Preseason Statistics PPG 3.0 RPG 1.0 APG 6.0 SPG 3.0 BPG 0.0 FG% 0.333 FT% 0.500 3P% 0.000 MPG 20.0
We're using one preseason game as evidence of something?
Yes, that some posters have no sense of humor.
Panos@ 10/11/2012 11:03 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
GustavBahler@ 10/11/2012 11:17 AM
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
limpidgimp@ 10/11/2012 11:21 AM
The touchdown pass to Asik definitely gave me flashbacks of Lin connecting with Melo on those.
IrishKnickFan@ 10/11/2012 11:21 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Very true but he did save our season so that outweighs it a little lol
GustavBahler@ 10/11/2012 11:24 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Very true but he did save our season so that outweighs it a little lol
Lin saved some games, the team saved the season.
IrishKnickFan@ 10/11/2012 11:26 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Very true but he did save our season so that outweighs it a little lol
Lin saved some games, the team saved the season.
im not a lin lover but i dont see the reason to criticize the guy. I play point guard so i like his skills
DurzoBlint@ 10/11/2012 11:27 AM
ANOTHER LIN threat...this won't end well
Sangfroid@ 10/11/2012 11:29 AM
It's sad to think that this is gonna be the tone for the season
NYKBocker@ 10/11/2012 11:31 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Do you also want to ignore that part where the TOs he commits are the acceptable ones. His TOs are off him trying to get his team in the right spots and setting them up. No lazy passes. No ill-advised passes. I think Hubie made this remark in one of the telecasts and same with JVG.
Chris Paul averaged 2.45 TOs for his career and his worst year is 2.96 Deron William averaged 3.11 TOs for his career and his worst year is 3.98 and since 07/08 he has been around 3.5. Jeremy Lin averaged 2.25 for his career and averaged 3.6 last year.
He is very comparable to ball dominant PGs.
Felton averaged 2.64 TOs for his career and his worst year was 3.26 in his first stint with the Knicks.
ChuckBuck@ 10/11/2012 11:58 AM
All i know is Russell Westbrook scored like 19 pts in like 16 minutes of action. Some things never change with Lin I guess. Continually getting roasted against superior comp like he did against Calderon, Vasquez, Rubio, Deron the 2nd game, Rondo, Rose etc.
Good riddance!
ShellTopAdidas@ 10/11/2012 12:48 PM
Don't understand how much hate Lin gets around her. He went from buried in the bench to saving or season from utter embarrassment when BOTH our Mega Super Stars were out with injuries. Wow!I mean, who gives a crap if he's not ready for preseason! Geeez!!!
ChuckBuck@ 10/11/2012 12:51 PM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:Don't understand how much hate Melo gets around her. He went from buried in the bench to saving our season from utter embarrassment when BOTH our Mega Super Stars were out with injuries. Wow!
Corrected.
GustavBahler@ 10/11/2012 1:04 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Very true but he did save our season so that outweighs it a little lol
Lin saved some games, the team saved the season.
im not a lin lover but i dont see the reason to criticize the guy. I play point guard so i like his skills
We will never agree on that point. I don't give any player a pass. Ive criticized everyone on this team to some degree. Some more than others. Ive also complemented every player on this team as well, even TD. I cant ignore something that a player is doing that I believe is wrong just because it might hurt someone's feelings. Not necessarily yours but some posters get wired up about any flaw being pointed out in "their" players game. I believe this is the most knowledgeable bunch of fans on the web. If the criticism isnt 100 percent lopsided towards one extreme they should be able to handle it.
IrishKnickFan@ 10/11/2012 1:08 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Very true but he did save our season so that outweighs it a little lol
Lin saved some games, the team saved the season.
im not a lin lover but i dont see the reason to criticize the guy. I play point guard so i like his skills
We will never agree on that point. I don't give any player a pass. Ive criticized everyone on this team to some degree. Some more than others. Ive also complemented every player on this team as well, even TD. I cant ignore something that a player is doing that I believe is wrong just because it might hurt someone's feelings. Not necessarily yours but some posters get wired up about any flaw being pointed out in "their" players game. I believe this is the most knowledgeable bunch of fans on the web. If the criticism isnt 100 percent lopsided towards one extreme they should be able to handle it.
Well first of all you're wrong because I NEVER gave him a pass. I am the most critical when it coes to lin. He needs to cut down on his turnovers and also shoot better from the outside. I think you misinterpreted me admiring his skills BUT also being critical of his weaknesses
GustavBahler@ 10/11/2012 1:21 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
That was a nice no look pass in the first one. Lin too often telegraphed his passes last season and it was a big reason why he was turning the ball over so much. If he can make more plays like that this year he should have a good season.
make no mistake, Lin was the best passing point guard we've had since Rod Strickland. He made his teammates better.
Lin set some records to be sure, including most turnovers in that stretch since before the NBA/ABA merger. You might want to ignore that part, but I don't.
Do you also want to ignore that part where the TOs he commits are the acceptable ones. His TOs are off him trying to get his team in the right spots and setting them up. No lazy passes. No ill-advised passes. I think Hubie made this remark in one of the telecasts and same with JVG.
Chris Paul averaged 2.45 TOs for his career and his worst year is 2.96 Deron William averaged 3.11 TOs for his career and his worst year is 3.98 and since 07/08 he has been around 3.5. Jeremy Lin averaged 2.25 for his career and averaged 3.6 last year.
He is very comparable to ball dominant PGs.
Felton averaged 2.64 TOs for his career and his worst year was 3.26 in his first stint with the Knicks.
Im bringing up his time as a starter where he doubled those turnovers, the stretch that got him that contract. Of course his numbers will drop when you factor in the spot minutes before the streak. I don't remember anyone doing that with the rest of his stats. His numbers wouldnt look as spectacular.
There is no way you can convince me that causing more turnovers than anyone in that stretch than any PG in 40 years is acceptable. Lots of players were trying to do the exact same thing but weren't given the green light to do so. Thank MDA. It paid off in some games, I wont deny it, but is is acceptable? No. I doubt that few coaches would feel that way. Will he play like that this season? I doubt that he will be allowed to. Besides, its still early to compare the guys you mentioned to Lin. He might get there but he needs to do it for at least a season to be in the converstation. Dont believe that is unfair.
