Knicks · OT: When you think you have had enough Lin, he graces the cover of GQ...Rocket Man... (page 3)

Nalod @ 10/16/2012 8:56 PM
matt wrote:I swear these writers care more about Lin being gone than we do. I think we're all pretty much over it..

The whole world thinks it was stupid to let him go but we think the knicks made the right decision.

Oh boy! it makes sense most of the time until I actually typed the words with doubtful fingers.

Really, its about the money. I understand money. The rest we'll just have to wait 3 years then look back.

Anji @ 10/16/2012 10:10 PM
Nalod wrote:
matt wrote:I swear these writers care more about Lin being gone than we do. I think we're all pretty much over it..

The whole world thinks it was stupid to let him go but we think the knicks made the right decision.

Oh boy! it makes sense most of the time until I actually typed the words with doubtful fingers.

Really, its about the money. I understand money. The rest we'll just have to wait 3 years then look back.


Overstated much???
Nalod @ 10/17/2012 12:09 AM
Anji wrote:
Nalod wrote:
matt wrote:I swear these writers care more about Lin being gone than we do. I think we're all pretty much over it..

The whole world thinks it was stupid to let him go but we think the knicks made the right decision.

Oh boy! it makes sense most of the time until I actually typed the words with doubtful fingers.

Really, its about the money. I understand money. The rest we'll just have to wait 3 years then look back.


Overstated much???

Sarcasm requires it.

ShellTopAdidas @ 10/17/2012 9:53 AM
misterearl wrote:Exactly

ChuckBuck wrote:You think anyone misses Tim Tebow in Denver after Peyton Manning rallied from 24 down on Monday Night Football...

Forward.

Difference is Tebow sucks, Lin didn't suck! I guess Felton is Payton Manning now? LOL

ChuckBuck @ 10/17/2012 10:17 AM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
misterearl wrote:Exactly

ChuckBuck wrote:You think anyone misses Tim Tebow in Denver after Peyton Manning rallied from 24 down on Monday Night Football...

Forward.

Difference is Tebow sucks, Lin didn't suck! I guess Felton is Payton Manning now? LOL

Comparing Lin and Tebow. Same parallel in ability. Tebow and Lin are both marginal stars. Both had out of the blue runs. Tebow can't throw accurately, and Lin can't go left. Tebow has a wierd baseball windup delivery, and Lin commits turnovers by the truckload. Both got paid and endorsed for their short term breakouts. Both shined for about 7 or 8 games, the rest were mediocre or average. Both have rabid delusional fanbase that inflate their worth and abilities, cover for their weaknesses, and continually heap praise on a small sample size.

And this is without bringing religion into it.

jrodmc @ 10/17/2012 10:44 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
misterearl wrote:Exactly

ChuckBuck wrote:You think anyone misses Tim Tebow in Denver after Peyton Manning rallied from 24 down on Monday Night Football...

Forward.

Difference is Tebow sucks, Lin didn't suck! I guess Felton is Payton Manning now? LOL

Comparing Lin and Tebow. Same parallel in ability. Tebow and Lin are both marginal stars. Both had out of the blue runs. Tebow can't throw accurately, and Lin can't go left. Tebow has a wierd baseball windup delivery, and Lin commits turnovers by the truckload. Both got paid and endorsed for their short term breakouts. Both shined for about 7 or 8 games, the rest were mediocre or average. Both have rabid delusional fanbase that inflate their worth and abilities, cover for their weaknesses, and continually heap praise on a small sample size.

And this is without bringing religion into it.

And Tebow's working out really well in Jetsville, isn't he? I wonder if the performance parallel will end there.

We'll just have to watch the games and see. [Copyright 2012 Nalod Don't Get Hurt, LLC]

tkf @ 10/17/2012 10:51 AM
LOL at the reasoning in this thread.....
ChuckBuck @ 10/17/2012 10:52 AM
tkf wrote:LOL at the reasoning in this thread.....


Sometimes the truth hurts.

IrishKnickFan @ 10/17/2012 11:00 AM
why cant we just move on from lin. I mean i like lin he is a good kid who obviously was overlooked by many teams. However knick fans should be happy with what we have now. We have a defense first coach and some of the better defensive players on the team. Our pg situation looks as good as it has in years. And Melo despite his bad playoff record looks focused
tkf @ 10/17/2012 11:24 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:LOL at the reasoning in this thread.....


Sometimes the truth hurts.

rofl!!!

93BUICK @ 10/17/2012 11:24 AM
Linough!
tkf @ 10/17/2012 11:24 AM
93BUICK wrote:Linough!

good one.. I like that actually.. haha

KnicksFE @ 10/17/2012 1:30 PM
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I’m not so sure the Knicks (Glen/Dolan) were going to match the first set of numbers either, considering that they stated recently that Raymond Felton is a better value at 15 million and they never showed Lin any type of offer.

biglove44 @ 10/18/2012 3:51 AM
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

holfresh @ 10/18/2012 7:24 AM
biglove44 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

You have any documentation or links to back up that statement???..Because such an argument would counter the much believed argument that Dolan was pissed he signed the second offer sheet...

KnicksFE @ 10/18/2012 8:26 AM
holfresh wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

You have any documentation or links to back up that statement???..Because such an argument would counter the much believed argument that Dolan was pissed he signed the second offer sheet...

Yea Dolan was so pissed that he gave 15 million to Felton, 15 million to Novak, 13 million to Camby, 9 million to Kidd, 1.5 million to Kurt Thomas, sent 2 million to Houston to cover Tony Douglas salary and surrounded 4 second rounder (plus Josh Harrelson) in the process.
WOW that guy Dolan was really pissed.

holfresh @ 10/18/2012 8:37 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
holfresh wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

You have any documentation or links to back up that statement???..Because such an argument would counter the much believed argument that Dolan was pissed he signed the second offer sheet...

Yea Dolan was so pissed that he gave 15 million to Felton, 15 million to Novak, 13 million to Camby, 9 million to Kidd, 1.5 million to Kurt Thomas, sent 2 million to Houston to cover Tony Douglas salary and surrounded 4 second rounder (plus Josh Harrelson) in the process.
WOW that guy Dolan was really pissed.

I think you are misinterpreting the point I'm trying to make...The conventional wisdom is the Lin left because Dolan took his signing with Houston personally, so he decided not to match the offer...If that is true then the fact the Lin was never in the Knicks 3 year plan would blow that argument out of the water...

KnicksFE @ 10/18/2012 9:13 AM
holfresh wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:
holfresh wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

You have any documentation or links to back up that statement???..Because such an argument would counter the much believed argument that Dolan was pissed he signed the second offer sheet...

Yea Dolan was so pissed that he gave 15 million to Felton, 15 million to Novak, 13 million to Camby, 9 million to Kidd, 1.5 million to Kurt Thomas, sent 2 million to Houston to cover Tony Douglas salary and surrounded 4 second rounder (plus Josh Harrelson) in the process.
WOW that guy Dolan was really pissed.

I think you are misinterpreting the point I'm trying to make...The conventional wisdom is the Lin left because Dolan took his signing with Houston personally, so he decided not to match the offer...If that is true then the fact the Lin was never in the Knicks 3 year plan would blow that argument out of the water...

I understood what you said, however, I never believed that argument, how can Dolan be upset that Lin was getting 25 million from Houston while he was giving away 55 million to other (older and less talented) players in the process?
And the Knicks still will pay luxury tax for some of those contracts; personally it doesn’t make any sense. Just my opinion.

holfresh @ 10/18/2012 9:16 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
holfresh wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:
holfresh wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

You have any documentation or links to back up that statement???..Because such an argument would counter the much believed argument that Dolan was pissed he signed the second offer sheet...

Yea Dolan was so pissed that he gave 15 million to Felton, 15 million to Novak, 13 million to Camby, 9 million to Kidd, 1.5 million to Kurt Thomas, sent 2 million to Houston to cover Tony Douglas salary and surrounded 4 second rounder (plus Josh Harrelson) in the process.
WOW that guy Dolan was really pissed.

I think you are misinterpreting the point I'm trying to make...The conventional wisdom is the Lin left because Dolan took his signing with Houston personally, so he decided not to match the offer...If that is true then the fact the Lin was never in the Knicks 3 year plan would blow that argument out of the water...

I understood what you said, however, I never believed that argument, how can Dolan be upset that Lin was getting 25 million from Houston while he was giving away 55 million to other (older and less talented) players in the process?
And the Knicks still will play luxury tax for some of those contracts; personally it doesn’t make any sense. Just my opinion.

Most of those players were already on the roster before Houston upped the third year of Lin's deal...I can find out which players but u know what I'm saying...OK..Let me ask u this...What if Lin didn't want to play for the Knicks??..What then??

KnicksFE @ 10/18/2012 9:51 AM
holfresh wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:
holfresh wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:
holfresh wrote:
biglove44 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Sign On The Dotted Line

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:LOL @ how he says that he wanted to spend his whole career with the Knicks, but he thought that the NYK brass would spend $25M for a 2-year injured player with 2 dozen starts under his belt.

No, no... You made your choice, and we made ours. Good luck in H-Town.

..and Jeremy, please take with you, all those butthurt pseudo-fans who swore off the Knicks when you signed that Rockets offer sheet.

Which begs the ultimate question, if jerem Lin wanted to be with the Knicks for life - why did he sign the Houston Rockets offer sheet in the first place?

All he had to say was, "Glen, here are Houston's first set of numbers, match them and I'm yours, signed, sealed and delivered."

I believe Lin said he notified the Knicks before even signing the offer sheet, and they(Glen) told him to go ahead. The knicks had plenty of time to negotiate with Lin; two weeks had passed before he even signed with the Rockets. They negotiated directly with JR and Novak but they didn't with Lin and told him to find his market value.

If he wouldn't have signed the one offer sheet he got he would have had no contract; the Knicks weren't even negotiating with him.

It's pretty simple, Lin wasn't a part of their 3 year plan.

You have any documentation or links to back up that statement???..Because such an argument would counter the much believed argument that Dolan was pissed he signed the second offer sheet...

Yea Dolan was so pissed that he gave 15 million to Felton, 15 million to Novak, 13 million to Camby, 9 million to Kidd, 1.5 million to Kurt Thomas, sent 2 million to Houston to cover Tony Douglas salary and surrounded 4 second rounder (plus Josh Harrelson) in the process.
WOW that guy Dolan was really pissed.

I think you are misinterpreting the point I'm trying to make...The conventional wisdom is the Lin left because Dolan took his signing with Houston personally, so he decided not to match the offer...If that is true then the fact the Lin was never in the Knicks 3 year plan would blow that argument out of the water...

I understood what you said, however, I never believed that argument, how can Dolan be upset that Lin was getting 25 million from Houston while he was giving away 55 million to other (older and less talented) players in the process?
And the Knicks still will play luxury tax for some of those contracts; personally it doesn’t make any sense. Just my opinion.

Most of those players were already on the roster before Houston upped the third year of Lin's deal...I can find out which players but u know what I'm saying...OK..Let me ask u this...What if Lin didn't want to play for the Knicks??..What then??

That only makes the Knicks look worst, good NBA management first take care of the core guys before signing the role players, unless Lin was not part of the core like they say he was.

Unfortunately we will never know if Lin wanted to stay or not, since the Knicks never gave him the option to return, not before signing the contract with Houston, not after. Had the Knicks presented Lin a low offer at least, they would have looked much better, because Lin does have little NBA experience and is still a little unknown, so maybe the Knicks were not willing to over pay for his service.

The fact that they never showed Lin anything, make the Knicks the sole responsible in this breakup and maybe it’s for the better, personally I don’t think so, but we will find out in the next couple of years.

NUPE @ 10/18/2012 10:12 AM
Jeremy Lin is not the next Chris Paul. Lin will be a good player at very best but NOT REMOTELY a franchise player NOR a star. This season Lin will be marginally better than Felton on the offensive end and vastly inferior to Felton on the defensive end. I see people predicting 20 and 10 for Lin this season which is wholly ludicrous. I really don't get the incessant whining and crying regarding Lin. It's actually largely absurd. If you care that much about Lin, to the point where you actually desire to see the Knicks lose or fail, then then please become a Rockets fan and move on with your life.

Really, Knicks fans have a long history of over-hyping their young players while simultaneously hating the best players on the Knicks team. This is nothing new.

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