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callmened @ 10/22/2012 9:33 PM
Good
- Ray looked great hitting five 3pters
- Defense stepped it up in the 2nd half
- Copeland again played very well on offense AND defense
- Prigoni is a nice passer but an even better defender who gets a lot of steals

Bad
- Melo forced a lot of 3pters trying to play "hero ball". SMH. He needs to STOP shooting and take it to the hole
- Novak had some nice 2 dribble moves who was off tonight
- Kidd looks half asleep and done
- Kurt is a thug; simply good for 6 fouls and thats it
- Brewer cant shoot or play offense (we knew that) but his defense wasnt that good. If he doesnt offer defense then he offers nothing
- Team defense and def rebounding played horribly. Once again, gave up TOO many wide open threes. Jason richardson and nick young are good but not THAT good
- Worst of all - this team without STAT looked stagnant (like it did last yr). Melo must learn to kick out the ball when double-teamed

Anji @ 10/22/2012 9:34 PM
Copeland looked fine to tonight in the 3rd/4th.


I think if Copeland has another good game on Wednesday, coach has to think about starting him til amare get's back. He's adding spacing and scoring to the offense with crippling us on Defense. It's the proverbial Win/Win!!

yellowboy90 @ 10/22/2012 9:54 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
callmened wrote:Good
- Ray looked great hitting five 3pters
- Defense stepped it up in the 2nd half
- Copeland again played very well on offense AND defense
- Prigoni is a nice passer but an even better defender who gets a lot of steals

Bad
- Melo forced a lot of 3pters trying to play "hero ball". SMH. He needs to STOP shooting and take it to the hole
- Novak had some nice 2 dribble moves who was off tonight
- Kidd looks half asleep and done
- Kurt is a thug; simply good for 6 fouls and thats it
- Brewer cant shoot or play offense (we knew that) but his defense wasnt that good. If he doesnt offer defense then he offers nothing
- Team defense and def rebounding played horribly. Once again, gave up TOO many wide open threes. Jason richardson and nick young are good but not THAT good
- Worst of all - this team without STAT looked stagnant (like it did last yr). Melo must learn to kick out the ball when double-teamed

Melo still doesnt trust his team. In order for him to get to taht next level his has to kick the ball out. I mean melo si great at drawing defense to him all he has to do is kick out the ball

Are you serious with not trusting the team. He was throwing the ball out all night long minus a few occasions. If its only hero ball when you miss why not call Novak out. If you are open and in the flow off the offense there is nothing wrong with taking the open shot.

IrishKnickFan @ 10/22/2012 9:58 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
callmened wrote:Good
- Ray looked great hitting five 3pters
- Defense stepped it up in the 2nd half
- Copeland again played very well on offense AND defense
- Prigoni is a nice passer but an even better defender who gets a lot of steals

Bad
- Melo forced a lot of 3pters trying to play "hero ball". SMH. He needs to STOP shooting and take it to the hole
- Novak had some nice 2 dribble moves who was off tonight
- Kidd looks half asleep and done
- Kurt is a thug; simply good for 6 fouls and thats it
- Brewer cant shoot or play offense (we knew that) but his defense wasnt that good. If he doesnt offer defense then he offers nothing
- Team defense and def rebounding played horribly. Once again, gave up TOO many wide open threes. Jason richardson and nick young are good but not THAT good
- Worst of all - this team without STAT looked stagnant (like it did last yr). Melo must learn to kick out the ball when double-teamed

Melo still doesnt trust his team. In order for him to get to taht next level his has to kick the ball out. I mean melo si great at drawing defense to him all he has to do is kick out the ball

Are you serious with not trusting the team. He was throwing the ball out all night long minus a few occasions. If its only hero ball when you miss why not call Novak out. If you are open and in the flow off the offense there is nothing wrong with taking the open shot.

You misinterpreted me. melo is a warrior and he really wants to help us win Im not saying he is being selfish i just meant that he wants to makes things easier for guys
tkf @ 10/22/2012 10:02 PM
holfresh wrote:Amazingly...Melo having a horrible shooting night but his overall game is awesome...Nice assist..Sharing the ball, defense...

rofl.. unbelievable... was i watching the same game.. i admit i was switching between games, but what did I miss?

yellowboy90 @ 10/22/2012 10:03 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
callmened wrote:Good
- Ray looked great hitting five 3pters
- Defense stepped it up in the 2nd half
- Copeland again played very well on offense AND defense
- Prigoni is a nice passer but an even better defender who gets a lot of steals

Bad
- Melo forced a lot of 3pters trying to play "hero ball". SMH. He needs to STOP shooting and take it to the hole
- Novak had some nice 2 dribble moves who was off tonight
- Kidd looks half asleep and done
- Kurt is a thug; simply good for 6 fouls and thats it
- Brewer cant shoot or play offense (we knew that) but his defense wasnt that good. If he doesnt offer defense then he offers nothing
- Team defense and def rebounding played horribly. Once again, gave up TOO many wide open threes. Jason richardson and nick young are good but not THAT good
- Worst of all - this team without STAT looked stagnant (like it did last yr). Melo must learn to kick out the ball when double-teamed

Melo still doesnt trust his team. In order for him to get to taht next level his has to kick the ball out. I mean melo si great at drawing defense to him all he has to do is kick out the ball

Are you serious with not trusting the team. He was throwing the ball out all night long minus a few occasions. If its only hero ball when you miss why not call Novak out. If you are open and in the flow off the offense there is nothing wrong with taking the open shot.

You misinterpreted me. melo is a warrior and he really wants to help us win Im not saying he is being selfish i just meant that he wants to makes things easier for guys

You said he has to kick the ball out and he did teammates just missed shots and he still kicked it out. Did he rush some 3s off of steals when the momentum was up yes and most players do. He just missed. He was driving most the night though and playing the right way but it is what it is.
IrishKnickFan @ 10/22/2012 10:05 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
callmened wrote:Good
- Ray looked great hitting five 3pters
- Defense stepped it up in the 2nd half
- Copeland again played very well on offense AND defense
- Prigoni is a nice passer but an even better defender who gets a lot of steals

Bad
- Melo forced a lot of 3pters trying to play "hero ball". SMH. He needs to STOP shooting and take it to the hole
- Novak had some nice 2 dribble moves who was off tonight
- Kidd looks half asleep and done
- Kurt is a thug; simply good for 6 fouls and thats it
- Brewer cant shoot or play offense (we knew that) but his defense wasnt that good. If he doesnt offer defense then he offers nothing
- Team defense and def rebounding played horribly. Once again, gave up TOO many wide open threes. Jason richardson and nick young are good but not THAT good
- Worst of all - this team without STAT looked stagnant (like it did last yr). Melo must learn to kick out the ball when double-teamed

Melo still doesnt trust his team. In order for him to get to taht next level his has to kick the ball out. I mean melo si great at drawing defense to him all he has to do is kick out the ball

Are you serious with not trusting the team. He was throwing the ball out all night long minus a few occasions. If its only hero ball when you miss why not call Novak out. If you are open and in the flow off the offense there is nothing wrong with taking the open shot.

You misinterpreted me. melo is a warrior and he really wants to help us win Im not saying he is being selfish i just meant that he wants to makes things easier for guys

You said he has to kick the ball out and he did teammates just missed shots and he still kicked it out. Did he rush some 3s off of steals when the momentum was up yes and most players do. He just missed. He was driving most the night though and playing the right way but it is what it is.
Thats not what i meant. mello did the right thing. I meant that the of the team has to step up. Im very proud of melo i think he will be MVP
tkf @ 10/22/2012 10:13 PM
NUPE wrote:LoL at this Copeland hype. It is preseason. You guys need to relax.

just unbelievable, I am happy for him trying to make an NBA roster, but the guy is putting his head down looking too shoot.. a little bit of Al harrington in him...

3G4G @ 10/22/2012 10:17 PM
Well "the game was on the line tonight" and The Great Nick Young was making the game closing plays....


Let me get this straight

Royal Ivey
Lavoy Allen
Spencer Hawes
Thaddeus Young
Jason Richardson
Nick Young A.K.A. Swaggy P

close out

Raymond Felton
BEST PURE SCORER
Chris Copeland
Tyson Chandler
Steve Novak
Jason Kidd


In the Carrier Dome, Melo's House?

knicks1248 @ 10/22/2012 10:18 PM
tkf wrote:
NUPE wrote:LoL at this Copeland hype. It is preseason. You guys need to relax.

just unbelievable, I am happy for him trying to make an NBA roster, but the guy is putting his head down looking too shoot.. a little bit of Al harrington in him...

+1

28 yr old rookie..smh, he needs to make the team though, he can fill a role in some ones absence, and thats a given

3G4G @ 10/22/2012 10:18 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:Amazingly...Melo having a horrible shooting night but his overall game is awesome...Nice assist..Sharing the ball, defense...

rofl.. unbelievable... was i watching the same game.. i admit i was switching between games, but what did I miss?

I called this several weeks ago....I literally can't make this stuff up.

3G4G @ 10/22/2012 10:19 PM
tkf wrote:
NUPE wrote:LoL at this Copeland hype. It is preseason. You guys need to relax.

just unbelievable, I am happy for him trying to make an NBA roster, but the guy is putting his head down looking too shoot.. a little bit of Al harrington in him...

Right now Allergic to Passing

holfresh @ 10/22/2012 10:19 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:Amazingly...Melo having a horrible shooting night but his overall game is awesome...Nice assist..Sharing the ball, defense...

rofl.. unbelievable... was i watching the same game.. i admit i was switching between games, but what did I miss?

U missed 6 rebounds, 5 assist, 4 steals, 1 block, and decent defense...

gunsnewing @ 10/22/2012 10:22 PM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:
NUPE wrote:LoL at this Copeland hype. It is preseason. You guys need to relax.

just unbelievable, I am happy for him trying to make an NBA roster, but the guy is putting his head down looking too shoot.. a little bit of Al harrington in him...

Right now Allergic to Passing

Can't fault him someone has to score inside on this team

knicks1248 @ 10/22/2012 10:23 PM
tkf wrote:
NUPE wrote:LoL at this Copeland hype. It is preseason. You guys need to relax.

just unbelievable, I am happy for him trying to make an NBA roster, but the guy is putting his head down looking too shoot.. a little bit of Al harrington in him...

yeah we were a -14 when he was on the floor, the highest of any player on both teams..just like al harrington.. empty points

tkf @ 10/22/2012 10:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
NUPE wrote:LoL at this Copeland hype. It is preseason. You guys need to relax.

just unbelievable, I am happy for him trying to make an NBA roster, but the guy is putting his head down looking too shoot.. a little bit of Al harrington in him...

+1

28 yr old rookie..smh, he needs to make the team though, he can fill a role in some ones absence, and thats a given

oh yea, but I think some are getting way carried away with him... he is playing hard trying to make the team and doing well... but I really don't see a rotation player here yet... but we are thin so who knows..

Nalod @ 10/22/2012 10:42 PM
It was the Melo show in his "homecoming"!
tkf @ 10/22/2012 10:44 PM
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:Amazingly...Melo having a horrible shooting night but his overall game is awesome...Nice assist..Sharing the ball, defense...

rofl.. unbelievable... was i watching the same game.. i admit i was switching between games, but what did I miss?

U missed 6 rebounds, 5 assist, 4 steals, 1 block, and decent defense...

and that was "awesome"... ok, so please tell me what was jason richardson... who not only shot well, almost 50%, but had 7 boards,6 dimes, 2 steals and a block as well?

again, this is the typical, melo stunk up the joint so let me get with the " he did other things so well" hype machine...

VCoug @ 10/22/2012 10:50 PM
Am I reading the box score correctly? Did Tyson Chandler play 38 minutes in a PRESEASON game? Did MDA get hired back? What the fuck happened?
3G4G @ 10/22/2012 10:52 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:Amazingly...Melo having a horrible shooting night but his overall game is awesome...Nice assist..Sharing the ball, defense...

rofl.. unbelievable... was i watching the same game.. i admit i was switching between games, but what did I miss?

U missed 6 rebounds, 5 assist, 4 steals, 1 block, and decent defense...

and that was "awesome"... ok, so please tell me what was jason richardson... who not only shot well, almost 50%, but had 7 boards,6 dimes, 2 steals and a block as well?

again, this is the typical, melo stunk up the joint so let me get with the " he did other things so well" hype machine...


"Melo didn't shoot well but those 2reb he grabbed late 4rth qrt were huge".......lolmnop!


I wonder if holfresh got jokes here

holfresh @ 10/22/2012 10:53 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:Amazingly...Melo having a horrible shooting night but his overall game is awesome...Nice assist..Sharing the ball, defense...

rofl.. unbelievable... was i watching the same game.. i admit i was switching between games, but what did I miss?

U missed 6 rebounds, 5 assist, 4 steals, 1 block, and decent defense...

and that was "awesome"... ok, so please tell me what was jason richardson... who not only shot well, almost 50%, but had 7 boards,6 dimes, 2 steals and a block as well?

again, this is the typical, melo stunk up the joint so let me get with the " he did other things so well" hype machine...

This is preseason...This is about the Knicks going forward...Ill take those numbers from Melo every night and be very happy of the effort across the board...When was the last time u saw Melo with 4 steal and 5 assist in the same game and I posted that in the 3rd qt before jumping to the debate..

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