tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Harden really selfish tonight and careless. If he isn't getting to the line he is a very avg player. He gets to the line so its all good. I do worry about him nearly always struggling against top defenders. He is young and maybe hitting that hump. He also needs to expand his game. He is still good though. I'm not a fan but he is good
well not really true, harden is a very good passer and distributor.. I do think he takes too many shots sometimes tho.. his game is pretty well expanded as it is...
He is not good in the post or in isolation and struggles when he isn't getting calls. He is the top pnr guard. He is so elite their the rest is o.k. he can pass and steal but he struggles on D with rotations and one on one when I watch him. His t.o.'s are an issue though. He has been in the league a while now so hopefully that gets better next year and he continues to grow
yellowboy90 wrote:tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Harden really selfish tonight and careless. If he isn't getting to the line he is a very avg player. He gets to the line so its all good. I do worry about him nearly always struggling against top defenders. He is young and maybe hitting that hump. He also needs to expand his game. He is still good though. I'm not a fan but he is good
well not really true, harden is a very good passer and distributor.. I do think he takes too many shots sometimes tho.. his game is pretty well expanded as it is...
He is not good in the post or in isolation and struggles when he isn't getting calls. He is the top pnr guard. He is so elite their the rest is o.k. he can pass and steal but he struggles on D with rotations and one on one when I watch him. His t.o.'s are an issue though. He has been in the league a while now so hopefully that gets better next year and he continues to grow
NOT every win person is good in the post... why should they? he is 6'5/6'6.. not really his game, but he will post and face up.. offensively his game is very complete, he has room to improve in some areas on defense, but he is 6th in the league in steals and his defense does needs some work, but he isn't a bad defender..... the guy is the real deal, such a good passer from the wing, a good rebounder and just a force.... the sky is the limit for that guy...
as far as his turnovers, I would like to see them go down, but Houston plays at such a high pace and he touches the ball every single time almost, I can somewhat understand....
agree to disagree. When. He becomes more consistent against elite defenders then he can be called a force. He is still very good.
lebron james is the youngest player to reach 20k points... Honestly it is fair to say he has been the best scorer in the league since he has entered or at least the most consistent...... that is a lot of points....
yellowboy90 wrote:agree to disagree. When. He becomes more consistent against elite defenders then he can be called a force. He is still very good.
true we can agree to dissagree, but I will add...honestly how many scorers are consistent against elite defenders? there are not many elite defenders in the league.. and harden has been pretty consistent putting the ball in the hoop all year... but what I mean by force is his all around game....I think he leads all SG in assist....he is a passer as well as scorer... almost in a lebron type of way.. not as good of course.. but....you know..
tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:agree to disagree. When. He becomes more consistent against elite defenders then he can be called a force. He is still very good.
true we can agree to dissagree, but I will add...honestly how many scorers are consistent against elite defenders? there are not many elite defenders in the league.. and harden has been pretty consistent putting the ball in the hoop all year... but what I mean by force is his all around game....I think he leads all SG in assist....he is a passer as well as scorer... almost in a lebron type of way.. not as good of course.. but....you know..
Harden is also #6 in the league in steals I think.
Watching the Rockets/Dallas game last night. Breen and Hubie likes Lin a lot.
tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:agree to disagree. When. He becomes more consistent against elite defenders then he can be called a force. He is still very good.
true we can agree to dissagree, but I will add...honestly how many scorers are consistent against elite defenders? there are not many elite defenders in the league.. and harden has been pretty consistent putting the ball in the hoop all year... but what I mean by force is his all around game....I think he leads all SG in assist....he is a passer as well as scorer... almost in a lebron type of way.. not as good of course.. but....you know..
He's an all-around great athlete. He's just one notch below Lebron and Durant.
tkf wrote:lebron james is the youngest player to reach 20k points... Honestly it is fair to say he has been the best scorer in the league since he has entered or at least the most consistent...... that is a lot of points....
Imagine how much faster he'd reach 20,000 if he still played for Cleveland
Bonn1997 wrote:tkf wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:agree to disagree. When. He becomes more consistent against elite defenders then he can be called a force. He is still very good.
true we can agree to dissagree, but I will add...honestly how many scorers are consistent against elite defenders? there are not many elite defenders in the league.. and harden has been pretty consistent putting the ball in the hoop all year... but what I mean by force is his all around game....I think he leads all SG in assist....he is a passer as well as scorer... almost in a lebron type of way.. not as good of course.. but....you know..
He's an all-around great athlete. He's just one notch below Lebron and Durant.
Yep, at 23, he possibly has the chance to join their company.... that is scary and good at the same time... thank god he is out west...
gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:lebron james is the youngest player to reach 20k points... Honestly it is fair to say he has been the best scorer in the league since he has entered or at least the most consistent...... that is a lot of points....
Imagine how much faster he'd reach 20,000 if he still played for Cleveland
didn't think about that... jeez..... we never really looked at him as a scorer because of all the other stuff he does, but the guy can score plain and simple..
Holy shit, someone give the Lakers a ten count and some smelling salts. That was an incredible stretch right there.
Miami and LA having a great game thus far. Very fun first quarter.
Kobe and Artest refusing to swing the ball back to Nash and instead go stupid one on one
Nash must be sick to his spleen
LOL Marv, Kerr and Miller being critical of Dantoni for not adjusting and going SSOL over exploiting Miami's weakness inside
mrKnickShot wrote:Kobe is such a pig
3 for 15. Just awful
gunsnewing wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:Kobe is such a pig
3 for 15. Just awful
He just doesn't care about anybody but kobe!
3 for 16 now. Game getting away. Guess Miami will stay in first. 2 huge road wins in GS and LA
Kobe misses point blank layup 3 for 17 WOW
Game getting good now Kobe getting hot!
