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Bonn1997 wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:
What is a chest contusion?
A person with a chest contusion has a bruise to the chest wall. The bruise may involve the skin, ribs, or muscles of the chest wall. A more severe chest contusion may cause bleeding in the underlying muscle and subcutaneous tissues, resulting in a chest hematoma.Like I said, a chest contusion is a bruise. You claimed it was some sort of tear which it is NOT. The definition you posted uses the word BRUISE twice while not once making mention of a tear or tore or whatever it is that you previously claimed a contusion is.
LoL!
You're somewhat of a numbskull...What happens is the muscles in the chest area are hit with so much force they separate or tear not from the bone but the tissues themselves, separate causing contusion/bruising....
The tearing of the muscle can also damage small blood vessels, causing local bleeding (bruising) and pain (caused by irritation of the nerve endings in the area).
BTW, in the game against Indiana where we were trying to clinch the 2nd seed, Melo left and didn't return because of a shoulder contusion
Actually, he was set to return once it got close, but then Woody waved him back once the Knicks had it under control.
ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:
What is a chest contusion?
A person with a chest contusion has a bruise to the chest wall. The bruise may involve the skin, ribs, or muscles of the chest wall. A more severe chest contusion may cause bleeding in the underlying muscle and subcutaneous tissues, resulting in a chest hematoma.Like I said, a chest contusion is a bruise. You claimed it was some sort of tear which it is NOT. The definition you posted uses the word BRUISE twice while not once making mention of a tear or tore or whatever it is that you previously claimed a contusion is.
LoL!
You're somewhat of a numbskull...What happens is the muscles in the chest area are hit with so much force they separate or tear not from the bone but the tissues themselves, separate causing contusion/bruising....
The tearing of the muscle can also damage small blood vessels, causing local bleeding (bruising) and pain (caused by irritation of the nerve endings in the area).
BTW, in the game against Indiana where we were trying to clinch the 2nd seed, Melo left and didn't return because of a shoulder contusionActually, he was set to return once it got close, but then Woody waved him back once the Knicks had it under control.
Maybe Lin wanted to play too. Who knows?
NUPE wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:
What is a chest contusion?
A person with a chest contusion has a bruise to the chest wall. The bruise may involve the skin, ribs, or muscles of the chest wall. A more severe chest contusion may cause bleeding in the underlying muscle and subcutaneous tissues, resulting in a chest hematoma.Like I said, a chest contusion is a bruise. You claimed it was some sort of tear which it is NOT. The definition you posted uses the word BRUISE twice while not once making mention of a tear or tore or whatever it is that you previously claimed a contusion is.
LoL!
You're somewhat of a numbskull...What happens is the muscles in the chest area are hit with so much force they separate or tear not from the bone but the tissues themselves, separate causing contusion/bruising....
The tearing of the muscle can also damage small blood vessels, causing local bleeding (bruising) and pain (caused by irritation of the nerve endings in the area).Doesn't matter, x rays were negative so no tears or structural damage whatsoever. More pain threshold than anything.
If I'm McHale, I don't dare put Lin back in the series anyways, Patrick Beverley with Aaron Brooks backing him up is the best shot they got at winning a game or two.
No muscle tears found on Lin but 3G4G will still claim a contusion is a muscle tear... LMAO!
I never claimed he actually had a contusion...It was reported that's what he had. Obviously he doesn't have a contusion.
Bonn1997 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:
What is a chest contusion?
A person with a chest contusion has a bruise to the chest wall. The bruise may involve the skin, ribs, or muscles of the chest wall. A more severe chest contusion may cause bleeding in the underlying muscle and subcutaneous tissues, resulting in a chest hematoma.Like I said, a chest contusion is a bruise. You claimed it was some sort of tear which it is NOT. The definition you posted uses the word BRUISE twice while not once making mention of a tear or tore or whatever it is that you previously claimed a contusion is.
LoL!
You're somewhat of a numbskull...What happens is the muscles in the chest area are hit with so much force they separate or tear not from the bone but the tissues themselves, separate causing contusion/bruising....
The tearing of the muscle can also damage small blood vessels, causing local bleeding (bruising) and pain (caused by irritation of the nerve endings in the area).
BTW, in the game against Indiana where we were trying to clinch the 2nd seed, Melo left and didn't return because of a shoulder contusionActually, he was set to return once it got close, but then Woody waved him back once the Knicks had it under control.
Maybe Lin wanted to play too. Who knows?
Nah, he said he couldn't run due to pain.
Meanwhile Kobe Bryant, whom I hate but respect, drains 2 free throws after his Achilles tendon is torn the phuck off. That's toughness!
3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:
What is a chest contusion?
A person with a chest contusion has a bruise to the chest wall. The bruise may involve the skin, ribs, or muscles of the chest wall. A more severe chest contusion may cause bleeding in the underlying muscle and subcutaneous tissues, resulting in a chest hematoma.Like I said, a chest contusion is a bruise. You claimed it was some sort of tear which it is NOT. The definition you posted uses the word BRUISE twice while not once making mention of a tear or tore or whatever it is that you previously claimed a contusion is.
LoL!
You're somewhat of a numbskull...What happens is the muscles in the chest area are hit with so much force they separate or tear not from the bone but the tissues themselves, separate causing contusion/bruising....
The tearing of the muscle can also damage small blood vessels, causing local bleeding (bruising) and pain (caused by irritation of the nerve endings in the area).Doesn't matter, x rays were negative so no tears or structural damage whatsoever. More pain threshold than anything.
If I'm McHale, I don't dare put Lin back in the series anyways, Patrick Beverley with Aaron Brooks backing him up is the best shot they got at winning a game or two.
No muscle tears found on Lin but 3G4G will still claim a contusion is a muscle tear... LMAO!
I never claimed he actually had a contusion...It was reported that's what he had. Obviously he doesn't have a contusion.
Lin has a CONTUSION or bruised chest. A contusion however is not a torn muscle. A contusion is caused by impacts that lead to bleeding / swelling under the skin. However, no tear is involved. Muscle tears are diagnosed as muscle tears not contusions. LoL!
NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.
Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.
Nah, just former Knicks that can't play when they say they're "85%" and you see other athletes play through much more.
ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.Nah, just former Knicks that can't play when they say they're "85%" and you see other athletes play through much more.
I did not take notes on who said what with the Rose injury discussion. Did you approve of Rose not coming back this season and the playoffs?
NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.Nah, just former Knicks that can't play when they say they're "85%" and you see other athletes play through much more.
I did not take notes on who said what with the Rose injury discussion. Did you approve of Rose not coming back this season and the playoffs?
Big difference with torn ACL/MCL and a little meniscus injury. Ask Metta World Peace.
NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:3G4G wrote:NUPE wrote:3G4G wrote:
What is a chest contusion?
A person with a chest contusion has a bruise to the chest wall. The bruise may involve the skin, ribs, or muscles of the chest wall. A more severe chest contusion may cause bleeding in the underlying muscle and subcutaneous tissues, resulting in a chest hematoma.Like I said, a chest contusion is a bruise. You claimed it was some sort of tear which it is NOT. The definition you posted uses the word BRUISE twice while not once making mention of a tear or tore or whatever it is that you previously claimed a contusion is.
LoL!
You're somewhat of a numbskull...What happens is the muscles in the chest area are hit with so much force they separate or tear not from the bone but the tissues themselves, separate causing contusion/bruising....
The tearing of the muscle can also damage small blood vessels, causing local bleeding (bruising) and pain (caused by irritation of the nerve endings in the area).Doesn't matter, x rays were negative so no tears or structural damage whatsoever. More pain threshold than anything.
If I'm McHale, I don't dare put Lin back in the series anyways, Patrick Beverley with Aaron Brooks backing him up is the best shot they got at winning a game or two.
No muscle tears found on Lin but 3G4G will still claim a contusion is a muscle tear... LMAO!
I never claimed he actually had a contusion...It was reported that's what he had. Obviously he doesn't have a contusion.
Lin has a CONTUSION or bruised chest. A contusion however is not a torn muscle. A contusion is caused by impacts that lead to bleeding / swelling under the skin. However, no tear is involved. Muscle tears are diagnosed as muscle tears not contusions. LoL!
No he has a Boo-Boo like you said..if he has a contusion vessels muscle tissues have been torn/separated/split/stressed/strained...you're thinking of tears from the bone, I'm not. Just because X-Rays were negative doesn't mean anything.
Either he had a serious enough injury to be taken out of the game or he didn't.
I had a my thigh hit head on in a flag football game and I felt impact to the bone. My muscle tissue split I experienced swelling/bruising/bleeding, a contusion... but there was no serious structural damage.
NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.Nah, just former Knicks that can't play when they say they're "85%" and you see other athletes play through much more.
I did not take notes on who said what with the Rose injury discussion. Did you approve of Rose not coming back this season and the playoffs?
Rose should be playing. My guess is that Bulls management has held him out to avoid paying his salary for the current season...
NYKBocker wrote:Also, I bet Lin thought that 85% number was a safe number indicating there is a chance to play but not really and not thinking that some/most fans and talking heads will question is desire, pain tolerance and manhood.
That's a pretty high number, considering Pablo Prigioni just said he's only about 75% to 80% on his ankle sprain.
Muscle Contusion (Bruise)
Athletes in all contact sports have many opportunities to get a muscle contusion (bruise). Contusions are second only to strains as a leading cause of sports injuries.Most contusions are minor and heal quickly, without taking the athlete needing to be removed from the game. But, severe contusions can cause deep tissue damage and can lead to complications and/or keep the athlete out of sports for months.
Cause
Contusions occur when a direct blow or repeated blows from a blunt object strike part of the body, crushing underlying muscle fibers and connective tissue without breaking the skin. A contusion can result from falling or jamming the body against a hard surface.Top of page
Symptoms
Sometimes a pool of blood collects within damaged tissue, forming a lump over the injury (hematoma).In severe cases, swelling and bleeding beneath the skin may cause shock. If tissue damage is extensive, you may also have a fractured bone, dislocated joint, sprain, torn muscle, or other injuries.
Contusions to the abdomen may damage internal organs.
NUPE wrote:NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.Nah, just former Knicks that can't play when they say they're "85%" and you see other athletes play through much more.
I did not take notes on who said what with the Rose injury discussion. Did you approve of Rose not coming back this season and the playoffs?
Rose should be playing. My guess is that Bulls management has held him out to avoid paying his salary for the current season...
I am in the Riley way of thinking. You are either injured or hurt. If you are hurt then you play. If you are injured then you sit. Injured to me is if you are not able to perform to an acceptable level due to some damage to your body. Lin tried to comeback out after halftime and he could not lift his arm over his shoulder. That tells me he is injured. He has played with severely sprained ankles this year and has not missed a game. I don't think his manhood should be questioned with this injury. Also, he got this injury going after a loose ball going full speed. Lin hate really baffles me.
TeamBall wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:That doesn't sound as bad as Amare missing a full playoff game because he had a stitch in his hand.
Was that really necessary?
It's always necessary. This amounts to "being fair" to these guys.
ChuckBuck wrote:NYKBocker wrote:Also, I bet Lin thought that 85% number was a safe number indicating there is a chance to play but not really and not thinking that some/most fans and talking heads will question is desire, pain tolerance and manhood.That's a pretty high number, considering Pablo Prigioni just said he's only about 75% to 80% on his ankle sprain.
True. So his biggest sin is not knowing what percentage to give for his assessment. He should have just said 50% or maybe that is still too high for some folks.
NYKBocker wrote:NUPE wrote:NYKBocker wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
because Chuck hates former Knicks and takes every possible opportunity to ridicule them.Nah, just former Knicks that can't play when they say they're "85%" and you see other athletes play through much more.
I did not take notes on who said what with the Rose injury discussion. Did you approve of Rose not coming back this season and the playoffs?
Rose should be playing. My guess is that Bulls management has held him out to avoid paying his salary for the current season...
I am in the Riley way of thinking. You are either injured or hurt. If you are hurt then you play. If you are injured then you sit. Injured to me is if you are not able to perform to an acceptable level due to some damage to your body. Lin tried to comeback out after halftime and he could not lift his arm over his shoulder. That tells me he is injured. He has played with severely sprained ankles this year and has not missed a game. I don't think his manhood should be questioned with this injury. Also, he got this injury going after a loose ball going full speed. Lin hate really baffles me.
Like I said earlier, I have no issue with Lin not playing yesterday after getting hurt...
NUPE wrote:Contusions can be very painful and greatly limit range of motion depending on their severity. I have no issue with Lin not coming back in the game. I don't see why this is a big deal.
Seriously wth are are guys arguing about. Felton has outplayed Lin in the postseason thus far and for that i am grateful.
I think people need to stop questioning Lin for not playing in the Miami series down 3-0 and just coming off knee surgery. Made no sense at the time and it makes no sense now. Anyone still using that against Lin is just trying to make themselves feel better about losing him for nothing
Just to be fair. Ragging o Lin is no different than ragging on Lee wilson and gallo just cos they are former knicks. Just be happy with where the team is now. We clearly won the Melo trade and felton is producing in his role in the playoffs