JamesLin wrote:I'm glad the lesser evil won. Now hopefully he can continue his work to resolve our deficit and skyhigh unemployment. Also expect future porn to include rubbers everywhere. No rubbers, no california porn, as prop B passed with flying colors, important? nah, but just throwing it out there...
exactly. They both suck ass but, Obamma is imo the lesser of the two evils.
I really hate having to always have to choose between the lesser of two morons. This will continue as long as we only have two parties in this country. The choices will always be severely limited
Nalod wrote:Rape lost.Obama, please pull out "Simpson-Boles" and get it done.
my world is full of angry white people who are very smart until it comes to politics.
They'll keep coming with reasons to discredit the president because they can't come up with a proper candidate.
Obama needs to legislate better and get things done. He is the President. I hope the country will put the country first.
Little early in the morning for the racist comments Nalod.
I just want a more productive government the next 4 years. If the republicans in congress are not going to work with the President as well as the other way around, the next 4 years will be no better than the last. If the government can get things done then everyone can attepmt to take credit the next election cycle and simply run their campaigns on merrit, which is how it should be anyway.
With a slim margin of victory for the President and seats lost for the Republicans in the senate, hopefully both sides realize that Americans are not happy and want their elected officials working for them again.
I'm not gonna really complain now that it's over. Just hope for the best. But I'm not too optimistic.
MSG3 wrote:I just want a more productive government the next 4 years. If the republicans in congress are not going to work with the President as well as the other way around, the next 4 years will be no better than the last. If the government can get things done then everyone can attepmt to take credit the next election cycle and simply run their campaigns on merrit, which is how it should be anyway.With a slim margin of victory for the President and seats lost for the Republicans in the senate, hopefully both sides realize that Americans are not happy and want their elected officials working for them again.
Slim margin of victory? It's gonna be 3 to 4 million popular votes and 130 electoral votes. This election was a rejection of Republican obstruction.
This morning, Republican strategist Steve Schmidt remarked that until the GOP distanced itself from the phony conservative nonsense spewed on Fox News and AM hate talk radio, it will NEVER be a force of power again.
misterearl wrote:This morning, Republican strategist Steve Schmidt remarked that until the GOP distanced itself from the phony conservative nonsense spewed on Fox News and AM hate talk radio, it will NEVER be a force of power again.
I agree with this.
I don't agree that Obama is the lesser of two evils but is clearly the better choice. But to the point, the only viable third party candidate for 4 years from now is Christie if the republican party continues with its hissy fit.
Christie can carry republicans away and attract democrats.
DurzoBlint wrote:JamesLin wrote:I'm glad the lesser evil won. Now hopefully he can continue his work to resolve our deficit and skyhigh unemployment. Also expect future porn to include rubbers everywhere. No rubbers, no california porn, as prop B passed with flying colors, important? nah, but just throwing it out there...
exactly. They both suck ass but, Obamma is imo the lesser of the two evils.
I really hate having to always have to choose between the lesser of two morons. This will continue as long as we only have two parties in this country. The choices will always be severely limited
Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:I just want a more productive government the next 4 years. If the republicans in congress are not going to work with the President as well as the other way around, the next 4 years will be no better than the last. If the government can get things done then everyone can attepmt to take credit the next election cycle and simply run their campaigns on merrit, which is how it should be anyway.With a slim margin of victory for the President and seats lost for the Republicans in the senate, hopefully both sides realize that Americans are not happy and want their elected officials working for them again.
Slim margin of victory? It's gonna be 3 to 4 million popular votes and 130 electoral votes. This election was a rejection of Republican obstruction.
I don't think this is a point of contention for anyone. It's 50-48%, a difference of 2.5 million. Even the Times headline is calling it a slim margin of victory. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can call 57 million people voting for something against 59 million a complete rejection or affirmation of anything. The country is divided. I'm not trying to find silver lining either. I genuinely want this President, and all President's to do well. If he and congress get it right this time around I'll be the first to applaud the President.
MSG3 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:I just want a more productive government the next 4 years. If the republicans in congress are not going to work with the President as well as the other way around, the next 4 years will be no better than the last. If the government can get things done then everyone can attepmt to take credit the next election cycle and simply run their campaigns on merrit, which is how it should be anyway.With a slim margin of victory for the President and seats lost for the Republicans in the senate, hopefully both sides realize that Americans are not happy and want their elected officials working for them again.
Slim margin of victory? It's gonna be 3 to 4 million popular votes and 130 electoral votes. This election was a rejection of Republican obstruction.
I don't think this is a point of contention for anyone. It's 50-48%, a difference of 2.5 million. Even the Times headline is calling it a slim margin of victory. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can call 57 million people voting for something against 59 million a complete rejection or affirmation of anything. The country is divided. I'm not trying to find silver lining either. I genuinely want this President, and all President's to do well. If he and congress get it right this time around I'll be the first to applaud the President.
A third of California's votes haven't been counted yet. It's gonna be 3+ million votes and probably a 3 point, 130 electoral vote win win. It's not a landslide but it's an unambiguous preference among the majority of Americans. Things will only get harder for the Republicans if they don't change their mindset, because wealthy, heterosexual, Christian, white men are becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the electorate.
Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:I just want a more productive government the next 4 years. If the republicans in congress are not going to work with the President as well as the other way around, the next 4 years will be no better than the last. If the government can get things done then everyone can attepmt to take credit the next election cycle and simply run their campaigns on merrit, which is how it should be anyway.With a slim margin of victory for the President and seats lost for the Republicans in the senate, hopefully both sides realize that Americans are not happy and want their elected officials working for them again.
Slim margin of victory? It's gonna be 3 to 4 million popular votes and 130 electoral votes. This election was a rejection of Republican obstruction.
I don't think this is a point of contention for anyone. It's 50-48%, a difference of 2.5 million. Even the Times headline is calling it a slim margin of victory. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can call 57 million people voting for something against 59 million a complete rejection or affirmation of anything. The country is divided. I'm not trying to find silver lining either. I genuinely want this President, and all President's to do well. If he and congress get it right this time around I'll be the first to applaud the President.
A third of California's votes haven't been counted yet. It's gonna be 3+ million votes and probably a 3 point, 130 electoral vote win win. It's not a landslide but it's an unambiguous preference among the majority of Americans. Things will only get harder for the Republicans if they don't change their mindset, because wealthy, heterosexual, Christian, white men are becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the electorate.
Just to put that in perspective, Bush said he had a "mandate" from the voters when he won by a much smaller margin (2.4% and only 35 electoral votes) in 2004.
Bonn1997 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:I just want a more productive government the next 4 years. If the republicans in congress are not going to work with the President as well as the other way around, the next 4 years will be no better than the last. If the government can get things done then everyone can attepmt to take credit the next election cycle and simply run their campaigns on merrit, which is how it should be anyway.With a slim margin of victory for the President and seats lost for the Republicans in the senate, hopefully both sides realize that Americans are not happy and want their elected officials working for them again.
Slim margin of victory? It's gonna be 3 to 4 million popular votes and 130 electoral votes. This election was a rejection of Republican obstruction.
I don't think this is a point of contention for anyone. It's 50-48%, a difference of 2.5 million. Even the Times headline is calling it a slim margin of victory. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can call 57 million people voting for something against 59 million a complete rejection or affirmation of anything. The country is divided. I'm not trying to find silver lining either. I genuinely want this President, and all President's to do well. If he and congress get it right this time around I'll be the first to applaud the President.
A third of California's votes haven't been counted yet. It's gonna be 3+ million votes and probably a 3 point, 130 electoral vote win win. It's not a landslide but it's an unambiguous preference among the majority of Americans. Things will only get harder for the Republicans if they don't change their mindset, because wealthy, heterosexual, Christian, white men are becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the electorate.
Just to put that in perspective, Bush said he had a "mandate" from the voters when he won by a much smaller margin (2.4% and only 35 electoral votes) in 2004.
Thos are political statements which I reject. I look at facts. Numbers are numbers. Close to 58 million people are going to want one thing versus 61 million who want another. Whether you agree or disagree with the 58 million, many of which were independents, they are still Americans and their voice needs to be recognized.
But I agree with what you said about the changing landscape of the electorate. Republicans need to change or a strong 3rd party needs to emerge. And the President needs to figure out a way to get an economic agenda through. People need to see that a direction is taking shape, whether they agree with it or not.
misterearl wrote:This morning, Republican strategist Steve Schmidt remarked that until the GOP distanced itself from the phony conservative nonsense spewed on Fox News and AM hate talk radio, it will NEVER be a force of power again.
+1
and I agree with Jesse, Christie or Rubio will have a better shot in 2016. Romney has some good intentions but dug himself a hole over petty issues that swayed puclic opinion. Some people are too concerned with money. Money isn't everything there are more pressing issues at stake.
Obama has a lot of work to do in the next 4yrs. Hopefully pave the way for the next President to flourish. Estatic some of those old geezers are out of the senate. Looking forward to things finally changing for the better. I'm really looking forward to Cory Booker in 2020. A true leader, intellect and a Selfless man. The future looks a little brighter for the United States of America.
One thing I can't stand is when people say Obama won because all the blacks and immigrants voted for him. Last I checked blacks and immigrants are in the minority. Romney dug himself a hole and lost end of story.
So pissed that the market is getting slammed since the re-election
Hopefully we as a country can just print some more TARP money and get the market back on track again.
gunsnewing wrote:misterearl wrote:This morning, Republican strategist Steve Schmidt remarked that until the GOP distanced itself from the phony conservative nonsense spewed on Fox News and AM hate talk radio, it will NEVER be a force of power again.
+1
and I agree with Jesse, Christie will have a better shot in 2016. Romney has some good intentions but dug himself a hole over petty issues that swayed puclic opinion. Some people are too concerned with money. Money isn't everything there are more pressing issues at stake.
Obama has a lot of work to do in the next 4yrs. Hopefully pave the way for the next President to flourish. Estatic some of those old geezers are out of the senate. Looking forward to things finally changing for the better. I'm really looking forward to Cory Booker in 2020. A true leader, intellect and a Selfless man. The future looks a little brighter for the United States of America.
One thing I can't stand is when people say Obama won because all the blacks and immigrants voted for him. Last I checked blacks and immigrants are in the minority. Romney dug himself a hole and lost end of story.
if anything, they scared even more people into voting Democrat. No one wants such intolerance folk running the country.
If anything it was their stance on abortion and abortion as it pertains to rape cases that truly cost them this one. Women voted for Obama in droves.
mrKnickShot wrote:So pissed that the market is getting slammed since the re-election
It's just a bunch of impulsive wealthy guys pissed about not getting their tax cuts. The market will be fine - it's done great under Obama.
Exactly. I would've gladly voted for a republican candidate who isn't a flip-flopping liar, arrogant, intolerant and immoral neo-nazi. Someone who isn't part of the neo-nazi group that has looked to bring down Obama since day 1. Republicans and democrats need to work together for the greater good of the country. This division will lead to nowhere.
Don't mean generalize and single anyone out but another thing I can't stand is when italian, irish, polish, etc Americans who's ancestors were immigrants complain about immigration. The laws need to be fixed. If not then it is a failure of Obama and previous presidents but comments like "Get them the F out" and "Go back to your 3rd world country" i hear on a daily basis is a little ironic to me and disrespect to our ancestors.
Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:So pissed that the market is getting slammed since the re-election
It's just a bunch of impulsive wealthy guys pissed about not getting their tax cuts. The market will be fine - it's done great under Obama.
exactly. Just goes to show how these people think. Putting their wallets ahead of the nations interest
mrKnickShot wrote:So pissed that the market is getting slammed since the re-election
The markets taking a hit has nothing to do with the election...It's has to do with news out of Greece and Germany...Greece has a huge budget vote later and Germany's economy is foretasted for slow growth...
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/...
America's post-election glow didn't even make it to the opening bell. After meandering near the flat-line all night markets were slammed when ECB President Mario Draghi said he was anticipating weakness in the European economy for the foreseeable future. Draghi's remarks came ahead of efforts by Greek officials to pass yet another austerity package in order to avoid economic collapse. In the face of such uncertainty traders decided discretion was the better part of valor and sold off stocks by more than 2% in early trading.
its a bad day unemployment is still gonna be a problem.
