Knicks · SSOL visited..... (page 5)

JrZyHuStLa @ 12/7/2012 5:06 PM
Nalod wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:When Carmelo sits out and the Knicks blow out a legit opponent, they're a much better team without him. Meanwhile, their #1 seed owes so much credit due to the fact they're still running Mike D'antoni's offense.

I may need to give this forum another break.

You need a break if you don't read. Nobody is slamming Melo. Nobody is saying we should running MDA's offense. Coaches borrow shyt al thte time from each other. We can't go all our on it because we'll break down and our identity is defense.

I said, as did the article that Woodson is open minded where MDA was stubborn.

I'll be sure to personally revisit this thread during a 3 game skid.

We'll all be able to relate to SSOL much easier then.

nixluva @ 12/7/2012 5:08 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:When Carmelo sits out and the Knicks blow out a legit opponent, they're a much better team without him. Meanwhile, their #1 seed owes so much credit to the fact they're still running Mike D'antoni's offense.

I may need to give this forum another break.

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand on this. No one is saying that Woody and the team aren't the real story. As a side note tho it is blindingly clear that the team has had to rely on a lot of the stuff we ran under MDA and that makes sense cuz it's proven that that stuff helps role players to excel. Melo doesn't need a system, but the rest of the team does. The rest of the team is basically running MDA's stuff cuz it helps them to have simplified roles and get open shots. That's what MDA's system is designed to do. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

JrZyHuStLa @ 12/7/2012 5:13 PM
nixluva wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:When Carmelo sits out and the Knicks blow out a legit opponent, they're a much better team without him. Meanwhile, their #1 seed owes so much credit to the fact they're still running Mike D'antoni's offense.

I may need to give this forum another break.

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand on this. No one is saying that Woody and the team aren't the real story. As a side note tho it is blindingly clear that the team has had to rely on a lot of the stuff we ran under MDA and that makes sense cuz it's proven that that stuff helps role players to excel. Melo doesn't need a system, but the rest of the team does. The rest of the team is basically running MDA's stuff cuz it helps them to have simplified roles and get open shots. That's what MDA's system is designed to do. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

LOL.

No, I don't understand it at all.

During D'antoni's 4 seasons, you found 0 flaws in the coaching system.
During the Isiah Thomas era, you found 0 flaws in his general management.

How do you expect me to take you serious?

ramtour420 @ 12/7/2012 5:14 PM
Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

ChuckBuck @ 12/7/2012 5:25 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

TheloniusMonk @ 12/7/2012 5:34 PM
Anji wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Yeah, Nalod. Besides, didn't you get the memo? MDA never ran SSOL here. According to Nix, it was his half court stuff mostly. Also known as Seven seconds or mess.

LOL, he never ran it but we are running now??? Thank goodness for the ignore feature!!!

How does the ignore feature work anyway? I've heard about it for years but never paid much attention to the talk. But these days I sure would love to use it. Quick tutorial anybody?

VCoug @ 12/7/2012 5:36 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

gunsnewing @ 12/7/2012 5:38 PM
TheloniusMonk wrote:
Anji wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Yeah, Nalod. Besides, didn't you get the memo? MDA never ran SSOL here. According to Nix, it was his half court stuff mostly. Also known as Seven seconds or mess.

LOL, he never ran it but we are running now??? Thank goodness for the ignore feature!!!

How does the ignore feature work anyway? I've heard about it for years but never paid much attention to the talk. But these days I sure would love to use it. Quick tutorial anybody?

click forum settings up top

ChuckBuck @ 12/7/2012 5:48 PM
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

121-167 record, 1 playoff appearance, 0 playoff wins

If that's not crash and burn I don't know what is.

Bonn1997 @ 12/7/2012 5:52 PM
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.


If you look at the player stats, it was really just Melo who couldn't play under MDA. All the other guys were around or above their career #s.
JrZyHuStLa @ 12/7/2012 5:54 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

121-167 record, 1 playoff appearance, 0 playoff wins

'Nuff said.

CrushAlot @ 12/7/2012 5:59 PM
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

D'Antoni had a positive influence on Woodson? Did you watch the 24 games Woodson coached after D'Antoni left? The guy was useless and did a lot of damage and wasted several seasons. Nothing positive happened until he left and then magically a guy that knew how to communicate, coach, believed in coaching defense, and was comfortable being an authoritative figure took over and it has been all positives.
ChuckBuck @ 12/7/2012 6:00 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.


If you look at the player stats, it was really just Melo who couldn't play under MDA. All the other guys were around or above their career #s.

Amare's mediocre career with the Knicks sans his MVP 8 game 30 pt scoring streak would like to have a word with you.

CrushAlot @ 12/7/2012 6:04 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

121-167 record, 1 playoff appearance, 0 playoff wins

If that's not crash and burn I don't know what is.

The guy was a horror show. I regret his taking the job in NY more than he ever will. Good luck destroying the lakers. Not sure how some around here ignore his terrible record and all the damage he did.
VCoug @ 12/7/2012 6:07 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

121-167 record, 1 playoff appearance, 0 playoff wins

If that's not crash and burn I don't know what is.

In order to crash you have to be going somewhere first. Where were we going before MDA? And you're really going to include the first two seasons he was here when we tore down an already team, we went 23-59 the year before, in order to get under the cap and sign Lebron? If anything we won too many games his first two years here; we should have been in full-on tank-mode to improve our draft position.

Bonn1997 @ 12/7/2012 6:14 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.


If you look at the player stats, it was really just Melo who couldn't play under MDA. All the other guys were around or above their career #s.

Amare's mediocre career with the Knicks sans his MVP 8 game 30 pt scoring streak would like to have a word with you.


Come on, you're better than that. It was clear that a healthy Amare could thrive under MDA and the key factor was his health. It's not like his #s turned around as soon as MDA left. Melo is the only guy that happened to.
CrushAlot @ 12/7/2012 6:18 PM
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

121-167 record, 1 playoff appearance, 0 playoff wins

If that's not crash and burn I don't know what is.

In order to crash you have to be going somewhere first. Where were we going before MDA? And you're really going to include the first two seasons he was here when we tore down an already team, we went 23-59 the year before, in order to get under the cap and sign Lebron? If anything we won too many games his first two years here; we should have been in full-on tank-mode to improve our draft position.

He should have been fired for what he did his second season. Did he get paid for his first two seasons? Do you remember all the drama? His second year the team went 1-9 out of training camp. The guys in his rotation had been with him at least 70 games the previous year minus Q and he wouldn't play the Rooks or Darko. It counts and he failed miserably. However, you could take those out and he still failed every year he was in NY. The only thing the franchise got back was some dignity because Walsh was a gentleman. He still got burned in every transaction he did as the Knicks gm.
ChuckBuck @ 12/7/2012 6:21 PM
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

121-167 record, 1 playoff appearance, 0 playoff wins

If that's not crash and burn I don't know what is.

In order to crash you have to be going somewhere first. Where were we going before MDA? And you're really going to include the first two seasons he was here when we tore down an already team, we went 23-59 the year before, in order to get under the cap and sign Lebron? If anything we won too many games his first two years here; we should have been in full-on tank-mode to improve our draft position.

The guy needed a point guard in his system, and both clowns Walsh and D'Antoni picked Chris Duhon to run the show. Comical! They could've drafted in 2009:

Brandon Jennings
Jrue Holiday
Ty Lawson
Jeff Teague
Eric Maynor
Darren Collison

Instead both bozos select Jordan Hill.

You get your "star" in Amare and you get your point in Felton, yet you still suck balls. Get 2nd All star and barely make the playoffs. Shyt the bed the start of last season, no adjustments, just "GO GO GO". Finally Anthony suggests to D'Antoni to try an actual point guard instead of Toney Douglas, and Linsanity is born.

It's not hard to decipher man. I just laid it all out there for you.

VCoug @ 12/7/2012 6:22 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.

D'Antoni had a positive influence on Woodson? Did you watch the 24 games Woodson coached after D'Antoni left? The guy was useless and did a lot of damage and wasted several seasons. Nothing positive happened until he left and then magically a guy that knew how to communicate, coach, believed in coaching defense, and was comfortable being an authoritative figure took over and it has been all positives.

Have you ever watched Mike Woodson coach before he got to NY? His Atlanta teams were, more often than not, horrible on offense. And for all your talk about how he coaches defense his Atlanta teams never finished better than 12th, which is where we're ranked right now, and I would claim that Tyson Chandler has more to do with our defensive ability this year and last.

CrushAlot @ 12/7/2012 6:26 PM
I can't believe on aday after the Knicks have one of their biggest regular season wins in at least ten years this ish is on a Knick forum. Go check out Laker forums and see what guys think of SSOL.
ChuckBuck @ 12/7/2012 6:28 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
VCoug wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Pass the ball to the open man, don't take first open shot, use the shot clock, 33%from 3 =50%from two, PnR is the oldest play in the book

THANK YOU MDA, YOUR GREATNESS STILL RUBS OFF ON US

Teflon Pringles...forever untouchable to some fans for some reason. I still don't understand the loyalty and praise he gets for crashing and burning our beloved franchise and openly admitting New York was a mistake.

He farted in your face, and still some people can't get enough of his sharts.

MDA crashed and burned the Knicks? I'm pretty sure that was Dolan, Isiah, and Layden who did that. He didn't do a great job while he was here but he clearly had a very positive effect on Woodson and Felton.


If you look at the player stats, it was really just Melo who couldn't play under MDA. All the other guys were around or above their career #s.

Amare's mediocre career with the Knicks sans his MVP 8 game 30 pt scoring streak would like to have a word with you.


Come on, you're better than that. It was clear that a healthy Amare could thrive under MDA and the key factor was his health. It's not like his #s turned around as soon as MDA left. Melo is the only guy that happened to.

Amare didn't even thrive that much when it was the Linsanity show and Melo was out, because Chandler was getting the lobs. The numbers they do not lie.

So Amare gets a pass for his health??? Very questionable coming from a sabremetrician like yourself.

Alot of guys are injury prone, gimps, china dolls whatever...being made of glass is not a crime, it is what it is.

Grant Hill could've been one of, if not for Lebron, the greatest Point Forwards in history. Now he's known as the guy with glass ankles that somehow got crazy glued by the Phoenix medical staff.

Anfernee Hardaway could've been the greatest big point guard next to Magic...didn't end up the way, too bad.

It's part of the game Bonn, sucks, but Amare is what he is. Gimp status yes. Can he resurrect into a productive player ala Larry Johnson with the Knicks, sure can.

Page 5 of 9