Knicks · Game Thread: The Return of Pringles: Knicks vs. Lakers Thursday 8PM (page 2)
nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I think it does get overstated by the media that MDA somehow just ignores defense. That media guy was an idiot to talk about something he didn't know. If he was at the shoot around and could speak on fact then that's one thing, but to just spout that nonsense and he actually didn't have his facts straight was ridiculous. MDA has been at a disadvantage in terms of getting his team to understand and perfect the defense. No training camp and not enough practice time does have an impact. The Lakers had issues before MDA got there and they have a lot of role players that aren't busting it on D and even if they did, those players aren't that physically gifted to begin with. The combination of poor PG play and no defense is really killing that team. Duhon, Morris, Jamison and Ebanks are laterally challenged and that leaves D12 having to cover for them, which takes him away from the hoop. No one backs him up. It's a mess!!! Too much sloppy passing leads to turnovers and that leads to fastbreaks.
We just need for the Knicks to make sure that they don't let the Lakers fix their problems at the Garden. I actually hate games like this cuz sooner or later faltering teams with talent have a good game. Just don't want it to be on Thursday night. Knicks can't take any team for granted.
talking about working on defense and working on defense are two completely different things. I'm with Magic Johnson on this one. While I'm in inclined to agree with his lack of defense urgency is overstatate, everyone complains about the same things with 
everywhere he's ever been... the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results. The Lakers are going to be a bad defensive team. How much of it being on Pringles is debatable. All I know is I'm willing to bet anyone that a team that features Kobe, Dwight, and the artist formerly Known as Ron Artest will finish in the bottom half of the league defensively and ultimately that shortcoming lies with the coach
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SupremeCommander wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I think it does get overstated by the media that MDA somehow just ignores defense. That media guy was an idiot to talk about something he didn't know. If he was at the shoot around and could speak on fact then that's one thing, but to just spout that nonsense and he actually didn't have his facts straight was ridiculous. MDA has been at a disadvantage in terms of getting his team to understand and perfect the defense. No training camp and not enough practice time does have an impact. The Lakers had issues before MDA got there and they have a lot of role players that aren't busting it on D and even if they did, those players aren't that physically gifted to begin with. The combination of poor PG play and no defense is really killing that team. Duhon, Morris, Jamison and Ebanks are laterally challenged and that leaves D12 having to cover for them, which takes him away from the hoop. No one backs him up. It's a mess!!! Too much sloppy passing leads to turnovers and that leads to fastbreaks.
We just need for the Knicks to make sure that they don't let the Lakers fix their problems at the Garden. I actually hate games like this cuz sooner or later faltering teams with talent have a good game. Just don't want it to be on Thursday night. Knicks can't take any team for granted.
talking about working on defense and working on defense are two completely different things. I'm with Magic Johnson on this one. While I'm in inclined to agree with his lack of defense urgency is overstatate, everyone complains about the same things with
Its a little hard to ignore the fact that he had to be forced to get a defensive coordinator twice
TeamBall wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I think it does get overstated by the media that MDA somehow just ignores defense. That media guy was an idiot to talk about something he didn't know. If he was at the shoot around and could speak on fact then that's one thing, but to just spout that nonsense and he actually didn't have his facts straight was ridiculous. MDA has been at a disadvantage in terms of getting his team to understand and perfect the defense. No training camp and not enough practice time does have an impact. The Lakers had issues before MDA got there and they have a lot of role players that aren't busting it on D and even if they did, those players aren't that physically gifted to begin with. The combination of poor PG play and no defense is really killing that team. Duhon, Morris, Jamison and Ebanks are laterally challenged and that leaves D12 having to cover for them, which takes him away from the hoop. No one backs him up. It's a mess!!! Too much sloppy passing leads to turnovers and that leads to fastbreaks.
We just need for the Knicks to make sure that they don't let the Lakers fix their problems at the Garden. I actually hate games like this cuz sooner or later faltering teams with talent have a good game. Just don't want it to be on Thursday night. Knicks can't take any team for granted.
talking about working on defense and working on defense are two completely different things. I'm with Magic Johnson on this one. While I'm in inclined to agree with his lack of defense urgency is overstatate, everyone complains about the same things with
Its a little hard to ignore the fact that he had to be forced to get a defensive coordinator twice
It's still been overblown. In 2006-07 his Suns were 13th in the league in defense. This idea that his teams didn't defend is simply not true. Sure if you count the Knicks teams we had which were full of absolutely awful defensive players and no defensive Center, but even when he had NO CENTER in PHX his teams were never actually bad defensively. His teams were always around the middle of the league in defensive efficiency. Just imagine that this was with Amar'e as the center and Nash at the top most of the time. That's a tough pairing to get a lot of defense out of.
In time this team will get better defensively. They'll never be great but they'll get better. Let's just hope it's not tomorrow!!!
nixluva wrote:TeamBall wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I think it does get overstated by the media that MDA somehow just ignores defense. That media guy was an idiot to talk about something he didn't know. If he was at the shoot around and could speak on fact then that's one thing, but to just spout that nonsense and he actually didn't have his facts straight was ridiculous. MDA has been at a disadvantage in terms of getting his team to understand and perfect the defense. No training camp and not enough practice time does have an impact. The Lakers had issues before MDA got there and they have a lot of role players that aren't busting it on D and even if they did, those players aren't that physically gifted to begin with. The combination of poor PG play and no defense is really killing that team. Duhon, Morris, Jamison and Ebanks are laterally challenged and that leaves D12 having to cover for them, which takes him away from the hoop. No one backs him up. It's a mess!!! Too much sloppy passing leads to turnovers and that leads to fastbreaks.
We just need for the Knicks to make sure that they don't let the Lakers fix their problems at the Garden. I actually hate games like this cuz sooner or later faltering teams with talent have a good game. Just don't want it to be on Thursday night. Knicks can't take any team for granted.
talking about working on defense and working on defense are two completely different things. I'm with Magic Johnson on this one. While I'm in inclined to agree with his lack of defense urgency is overstatate, everyone complains about the same things with
Its a little hard to ignore the fact that he had to be forced to get a defensive coordinator twiceIt's still been overblown. In 2006-07 his Suns were 13th in the league in defense. This idea that his teams didn't defend is simply not true. Sure if you count the Knicks teams we had which were full of absolutely awful defensive players and no defensive Center, but even when he had NO CENTER in PHX his teams were never actually bad defensively. His teams were always around the middle of the league in defensive efficiency. Just imagine that this was with Amar'e as the center and Nash at the top most of the time. That's a tough pairing to get a lot of defense out of.
In time this team will get better defensively. They'll never be great but they'll get better. Let's just hope it's not tomorrow!!!
13 out of 30 isn't impressive. It means you're about or slightly above average
SupremeCommander wrote:Totally agree. Anyone that I talked to who was positive about the hire said that he wouldn't need to coach defense anyway because there were good defenders and the d was anchored by D12.nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:I think it does get overstated by the media that MDA somehow just ignores defense. That media guy was an idiot to talk about something he didn't know. If he was at the shoot around and could speak on fact then that's one thing, but to just spout that nonsense and he actually didn't have his facts straight was ridiculous. MDA has been at a disadvantage in terms of getting his team to understand and perfect the defense. No training camp and not enough practice time does have an impact. The Lakers had issues before MDA got there and they have a lot of role players that aren't busting it on D and even if they did, those players aren't that physically gifted to begin with. The combination of poor PG play and no defense is really killing that team. Duhon, Morris, Jamison and Ebanks are laterally challenged and that leaves D12 having to cover for them, which takes him away from the hoop. No one backs him up. It's a mess!!! Too much sloppy passing leads to turnovers and that leads to fastbreaks.
We just need for the Knicks to make sure that they don't let the Lakers fix their problems at the Garden. I actually hate games like this cuz sooner or later faltering teams with talent have a good game. Just don't want it to be on Thursday night. Knicks can't take any team for granted.
talking about working on defense and working on defense are two completely different things. I'm with Magic Johnson on this one. While I'm in inclined to agree with his lack of defense urgency is overstatate, everyone complains about the same things with
pes press conference melt down.
gunsnewing wrote:
^^^^ This is what I see every time I open a new Tab "UHuhHHUHUHHuu, we go over defense, YEah 30 mins...half hour!!!"