Knicks · Melo 2nd in East All star votes, Lin 3rd amongst West Guards (page 3)

Hersports85 wrote:Novak should enter without a doubt.

Would love to see that.

Too bad Shumpert got hurt last year, would love to see him win the dunk contest too!

NYKMentality wrote:Well it's not surprising at all in regards to Lin. Not to bring culture and/or race into this, but Jeremy Lin's not being voted into the all star game due to his overall ability and/or production on the basketball court. He's being voted into the game due to the fact that he's of Asian descent. He's an Asian-American but this doesn't change the fact that Billions of people from China and Asia as a whole is voting for this guy. Basketball is big over there. When they see an Asian in the NBA? They vote, and vote in numbers too. Jeremy Lin could've sat out each and every game, and he'd still get voted into the game. Congrats to Jeremy Lin and his world-wide popularity though.

Guys called me Racist when I said he'd probably make it as a starter because of the Emo Fanboys along with the Asian Love.

2013 All-Star Ballot | Third Returns
2013 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING PRESENTED BY SPRINT EASTERN CONFERENCE
Frontcourt: LeBron James (Mia) 1,151,304, Carmelo Anthony (NYK) 1,054,099, Kevin Garnett (Bos) 390,751, Chris Bosh (Mia) 362,973, Tyson Chandler (NYK) 315,752, Paul Pierce (Bos) 205,096, Joakim Noah (Chi) 158,743, Josh Smith (Atl) 131,508, Anderson Varejao (Cle) 116,166, Shane Battier (Mia) 107,190, Amar'e Stoudemire (NYK) 104,109, Andrew Bynum (Phi) 93,611, Luol Deng (Chi) 90,736, Brook Lopez (BKN) 76,695, Jeff Green (Bos) 62,367
Backcourt: Dwyane Wade (Mia) 765,077, Rajon Rondo (Bos) 675,822, Deron Williams (BKN) 350,618, Kyrie Irving (Cle) 308,878, Ray Allen (Mia) 232,441, Monta Ellis (Mil) 84,609, Raymond Felton (NYK) 77,123, Jrue Holiday (Phi) 66,514, Jason Terry (Bos) 62,189, Brandon Jennings (Mil) 56,826

2013 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING PRESENTED BY SPRINT WESTERN CONFERENCE
Frontcourt: Kevin Durant (OKC) 1,088,797, Dwight Howard (LAL) 716,671, Blake Griffin (LAC) 593,024, Tim Duncan (SA) 352,534, Pau Gasol (LAL) 239,440, Kevin Love (Min) 221,291, Omer Asik (Hou) 160,935, Rudy Gay (Mem) 140,864, Serge Ibaka (OKC) 134,172, Marc Gasol (Mem) 114,465, LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 111,156, Zach Randolph (Mem) 111,046, Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 106,623, Metta World Peace (LAL) 106,025, Chandler Parsons (Hou) 93,057
Backcourt: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,177,456, Chris Paul (LAC) 651,893, Jeremy Lin (Hou) 605,624, James Harden (Hou) 337,585, Russell Westbrook (OKC) 268,558, Steve Nash (LAL) 202,274, Tony Parker (SA) 128,966, Ricky Rubio (Min) 112,352, Stephen Curry (GS) 97,761, Manu Ginobili (SA) 84,564

Carmelo still holding strong in the 2nd Forward spot in East balloting. Tyson needs some help probably from coaches to get in. It shouldn't shock me that Jeremy Lin is getting all the Asian popularity vote, but it still does. Him almost doubling teammate James Harden is hard to stomach.

ChuckBuck wrote:

2013 All-Star Ballot | Third Returns
2013 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING PRESENTED BY SPRINT EASTERN CONFERENCE
Frontcourt: LeBron James (Mia) 1,151,304, Carmelo Anthony (NYK) 1,054,099, Kevin Garnett (Bos) 390,751, Chris Bosh (Mia) 362,973, Tyson Chandler (NYK) 315,752, Paul Pierce (Bos) 205,096, Joakim Noah (Chi) 158,743, Josh Smith (Atl) 131,508, Anderson Varejao (Cle) 116,166, Shane Battier (Mia) 107,190, Amar'e Stoudemire (NYK) 104,109, Andrew Bynum (Phi) 93,611, Luol Deng (Chi) 90,736, Brook Lopez (BKN) 76,695, Jeff Green (Bos) 62,367
Backcourt: Dwyane Wade (Mia) 765,077, Rajon Rondo (Bos) 675,822, Deron Williams (BKN) 350,618, Kyrie Irving (Cle) 308,878, Ray Allen (Mia) 232,441, Monta Ellis (Mil) 84,609, Raymond Felton (NYK) 77,123, Jrue Holiday (Phi) 66,514, Jason Terry (Bos) 62,189, Brandon Jennings (Mil) 56,826

2013 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING PRESENTED BY SPRINT WESTERN CONFERENCE
Frontcourt: Kevin Durant (OKC) 1,088,797, Dwight Howard (LAL) 716,671, Blake Griffin (LAC) 593,024, Tim Duncan (SA) 352,534, Pau Gasol (LAL) 239,440, Kevin Love (Min) 221,291, Omer Asik (Hou) 160,935, Rudy Gay (Mem) 140,864, Serge Ibaka (OKC) 134,172, Marc Gasol (Mem) 114,465, LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 111,156, Zach Randolph (Mem) 111,046, Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 106,623, Metta World Peace (LAL) 106,025, Chandler Parsons (Hou) 93,057
Backcourt: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,177,456, Chris Paul (LAC) 651,893, Jeremy Lin (Hou) 605,624, James Harden (Hou) 337,585, Russell Westbrook (OKC) 268,558, Steve Nash (LAL) 202,274, Tony Parker (SA) 128,966, Ricky Rubio (Min) 112,352, Stephen Curry (GS) 97,761, Manu Ginobili (SA) 84,564

Carmelo still holding strong in the 2nd Forward spot in East balloting. Tyson needs some help probably from coaches to get in. It shouldn't shock me that Jeremy Lin is getting all the Asian popularity vote, but it still does. Him almost doubling teammate James Harden is hard to stomach.

I said last year that Lin would be starting PG for the East in the All Star game (obviously some things have changed). The NY vote would have helped too, but shouldn't be too shocked. It'll be an absolutely joke if he beats out Chris Paul though...but he's right there.

I would watch that Allstar game.

DurzoBlint wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Well it's not surprising at all in regards to Lin. Not to bring culture and/or race into this, but Jeremy Lin's not being voted into the all star game due to his overall ability and/or production on the basketball court. He's being voted into the game due to the fact that he's of Asian descent. He's an Asian-American but this doesn't change the fact that Billions of people from China and Asia as a whole is voting for this guy. Basketball is big over there. When they see an Asian in the NBA? They vote, and vote in numbers too. Jeremy Lin could've sat out each and every game, and he'd still get voted into the game. Congrats to Jeremy Lin and his world-wide popularity though.

Guys called me Racist when I said he'd probably make it as a starter because of the Emo Fanboys along with the Asian Love.

How can anyone call you racist for that? Thats exactly why he'd become a starter if he did. It was ridiculous seeing the amount of Asian fans who showed up to Knicks games last year just because of Lin and Lin only (I'm a little bitter cause I was supposed to go to that Laker game for my birthday but couldnt get tickets).

Melo has always had the public votes his whole career at his respective position(forwards). He has increased his overall vote count but it's the NYC(east coast) factor. No big deal.

It's one of the most meaningless accomplishments for a professional basketball player being a leading vote getter. The All-Star game in general is one of the worst exhibition games to watch in any sport.

According to http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/sort..., the Rockets are the 2nd most-welcomed NBA team, behind the Lakers and ahead of all the other NBA teams.

When the Rockets come to town, an average of 18,823 fans would go to the stadium to watch the Rockets against their home team. The numbers are 19,029 for the Lakers and 18,464 for the Heat.

2013 Attendance	Home	                        Road	                Overall
RK	TEAM	GMS	TOTAL	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT	GMS	AVG	PCT
1	Lakers	15	284,955	18,997	99.7	14	19,029	99.2	29	19,012	99.5
2	Rockets	16	250,514	15,657	86.8	12	18,823	96.0	28	17,013	90.9
3	Heat	16	317,839	19,864	101.4	10	18,464	97.3	26	19,326	99.8

We saw this last year with Linsanity and the Knicks. Lin is extremely popular and not just outside the US, specifically asia.

All-Star voting is a popularity contest. Starting All-Star does not mean what everybody thinks it should mean. It is the most popular players. This also happens in Little League when selecting the Town All-Star teams. The kids vote in the first 4 or 5 players. Guess what? It is not the best players that get voted in. It is the most popular. Lin being voted in as a starter in the All-Star game should not be viewed as a black eye or something comical. Now, if he gets first team All-NBA which is voted in by 120+ sports writers and media people then you should have a problem.

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

It's an allstar game not a pick-up game. Only players playing on a allstar level should be in the allstar game IMO. It has nothing to do with hating on Lin, but to be honest he has no business being ahead of Tony Parker and James Harden who are clearly having much better seasons than Lin.

There are others who have an ample amount of votes who have no business being in the discussion either. Ray Felton and Monta Ellis are not having better seasons than Holiday, etc...Its not about Lin, its about the process...

Uptown wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

It's an allstar game not a pick-up game. Only players playing on a allstar level should be in the allstar game IMO. It has nothing to do with hating on Lin, but to be honest he has no business being ahead of Tony Parker and James Harden who are clearly having much better seasons than Lin.

There are others who have an ample amount of votes who have no business being in the discussion either. Ray Felton and Monta Ellis are not having better seasons than Holiday, etc...Its not about Lin, its about the process...

The process is perfect, All Star weekend is for the fans, they want to see their favorite players play in a game,

There are guys that do dirty work in the league and there are guys that shine bright, like Stars, and the stars is what the fans want to see at All Star weekend, and the two categories aren't mutually exclusive, so there are also stars that do plenty of dirty work,

I'm sure Tony Parker is fine with not getting the votes because he's too busy dropping buckets and taking names across all the land!!

It's almost a bad thing, to be voted in, because if I'm in that situation, I'm going for the break!! gotta rest it's a long season, I would sleep a lot

are you saying that the PROCESS OF DEMOCRACY is also flawed?

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

No hes not. A star? Yeah, of course. But he is not an all star.

TeamBall wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

No hes not. A star? Yeah, of course. But he is not an all star.

How is he not an All Star if me, and billions of other people across the universe, want to see him in the All Star game out of ALLL the players in the NBA?

IronWillGiroud wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

No hes not. A star? Yeah, of course. But he is not an all star.

How is he not an All Star if me, and billions of other people across the universe, want to see him in the All Star game out of ALLL the players in the NBA?

Wait..how exactly do you define an "all star"? Someone who is popular? Was Brian Scalabrine an all star then because all of Boston loved him even though he was garbage?

IronWillGiroud wrote:

Uptown wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

It's an allstar game not a pick-up game. Only players playing on a allstar level should be in the allstar game IMO. It has nothing to do with hating on Lin, but to be honest he has no business being ahead of Tony Parker and James Harden who are clearly having much better seasons than Lin.

There are others who have an ample amount of votes who have no business being in the discussion either. Ray Felton and Monta Ellis are not having better seasons than Holiday, etc...Its not about Lin, its about the process...

The process is perfect, All Star weekend is for the fans, they want to see their favorite players play in a game,

There are guys that do dirty work in the league and there are guys that shine bright, like Stars, and the stars is what the fans want to see at All Star weekend, and the two categories aren't mutually exclusive, so there are also stars that do plenty of dirty work,

I'm sure Tony Parker is fine with not getting the votes because he's too busy dropping buckets and taking names across all the land!!

It's almost a bad thing, to be voted in, because if I'm in that situation, I'm going for the break!! gotta rest it's a long season, I would sleep a lot

are you saying that the PROCESS OF DEMOCRACY is also flawed?

First of all, these players take being allstars very serious. I'll never forget Isiah crying on camera when he won the allstar game MVP. I remember watching a Kareem Abdula Jabbar interview and as he was going over his career accomplishments, he made it a point to point out how many allstar games he played in. In Larry Birds book, he mentioned how much winning the allstar game MVP meant to him. Sort of a validation. Jordan's grudge against Isiah started at the allstar game.

Unless you know Tony Parker personally, how could you say he doesn't mind? I read in an interview that one of Rod Strickland's biggest regrets was never playing in an allstar game. I highly doubt Parker who is a competitor would be okay with guys who he is clearly better than, getting into the allstar game over him.

are you saying that the PROCESS OF DEMOCRACY is also flawed?

No, that is not what I'm saying...I'm talking abut the allstar game. Please dont twist my words and veer off topic....

TeamBall wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:What the hell is your issue against fans voting who they want to see in the All Star game,

I voted for J Lin too, All Star game is about the stars fans want to see, not necessarily who has the best True Field Goal % or whatever advanced statistic,

It's a global game whether you like it or not and Jeremy Lin is an All-Star!!

Wang Zhizhi didn't get voted in, so it's not like Jeremy Lin sucks, JEREMY LIN HAS ALL-STAR GAMES REGULARLY, IF NOT YET FREQUENTLY

So chill out with the Anti-Lin hate

No hes not. A star? Yeah, of course. But he is not an all star.

How is he not an All Star if me, and billions of other people across the universe, want to see him in the All Star game out of ALLL the players in the NBA?

Wait..how exactly do you define an "all star"? Someone who is popular? Was Brian Scalabrine an all star then because all of Boston loved him even though he was garbage?

Boston...yes...how about the rest of the world?

I actually thought it was a little racist to think Lin is going to get voted in. I thought being Asian and a basketball didn't mean you had to be a Lin Fan. Be hell he just might do it, it might be true, which is sadder than all this folks cling to Obama because he is brown skinned. I mean at least he's doing something important.

Chris Paul is going to be leading the Clippers take over of LA, something that nobody ever thought would happen, but he is going to coming off the bench in the All star game because his last name isn't Chang. Can't wait!!!

NYKBocker wrote:Boston...yes...how about the rest of the world?

Nowhere else I can think of besides Chicago maybe. My main point was that being popular doesnt make you an all star level player. I dont care if he gets voted in really but I dont believe he belongs there just yet.