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playa2 @ 1/27/2013 9:17 AM
THE MOTIVE at Newtown






Vegas_cards Woman Claims Sandy Hook Coroner admitted Shooting was a Hoax – motive reveals itself…

Stephanie Sledge 26Jan2013

On Friday, January 25, 2013, on the The Power Hour w/ Joyce Riley, a woman by the name of ‘Bonnie’ called in and reported that the Sandy Hook coroner, Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, was spotted in Las Vegas. The woman claims she has information that she obtained from a close friend, who owns a business in the area.

She claims, “he just got back from Las Vegas, now mind you, this business owner is not like one of us – you know, he is just a normal citizen, but he told her he was in Las Vegas and he was at one of the tables, and across the table from him was the coroner from Sandy Hook” (Photo obtained; Vegas Card).

“He took a picture of him on his cell phone, and uh, so the guy got to talking when he saw him take a picture and the man said… “You know, this is pretty fishy about Sandy Hook and its starting to look like a hoax,” and the doctor said, “it was a hoax.”

The woman did not elaborate anymore and claims she was trying to get the picture that the man took on his cell phone. Interestingly enough, the International Association of Coroners & Medical Examiners (IAC&ME) 2013, Executive Board Meeting, was held in Las Vegas on January 22-24th, 2013. This period would coincide with the statement that the caller claims her friend was also in Las Vegas.



executive medical board meeting Las Vegas January same time as carver seen in Las Vegas

Dr Wayne Carver Dr. H. Wayne Carver is the Chief Medical Examiner at the Office of the Chief Medical Examiners under the control of the Commission on Medicolegal Investigations. The Commission is composed of nine members, who are appointed by Governor Dannel P. Malloy. He has headed the office since 1989. He was born in St. Louis, Missouri and raised in Skokie, Ill. He earned an undergraduate degree at Brown University and his residency and pathology training at the University of Chicago and the Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office. He was originally deputy chief medical examiner and then promoted. His salary was around $299,783 per year.

Dr. Carver had been a long time medical examiner. According to his license from the Dept. of Public Health, he has been licensed in CT since July 1982. He has testified in high-profile cases including the Cheshire home-invasion case, the serial killer, Michael Ross case, and the Richards Crafts “wood-chipper’ murder case. Michael Ross was executed in 2005. He has always been known to testify well on the stand and assist the police for a prosecution.

Dr. Carver even threatened the state in the later part of 2011 to resign from his position as Chief Medical Examiner. According to WTNH 8, “Carver accused Malloy’s administration of meddling with the medical examiner’s office by removing five employees as part of an effort to centralize certain state agency operations, such as payroll.” Carver also said, “At the time that the move wouldn’t save any money and could jeopardize the independence of his agency.” Then, just a few weeks later, Carver withdrew his resignation claiming that he would not be able to stay on as an assistant. Carver mocked the budget cuts and did not appreciate that his “department had its national accreditation downgraded by one agency and dropped by another.”

Carter claimed these problems would have to be rectified. Carver took his issues up with the Commission on Medicolegal Investigations, which governs his office. He professed that he would have to gain clearance through the governor’s budget office, the Office of Policy Management (OPM) under Benjamin Barnes, which at that time was in the process of reorganizing the Office of Medical Examiner into the University of Connecticut Health Center. According to the OPM’s website, “OPM is composed of seven divisions that report to the Office of the Secretary: Administration, Budget and Financial Management, Criminal Justice Policy and Planning Division, Finance, Intergovernmental Policy, Labor Relations, and Policy Development and Planning. The agency also maintains an office in the State Capitol for OPM’s legislative activities.”

So, under the command of Hillary Clinton, that is… The same woman that signed the United Nations (UN) Small
? Okay all, go back to sleep now – it’s just a conspiracy theory….

Connecticut Office of Medical Examiners has full accreditation from the National Association of Medical Examiners and the American Board of Forensic Toxicology

playa2 @ 1/30/2013 9:58 AM

Watch the kid in the yellow shirt closely walk around. They have been duping us in different ways with these alleged shootings.

Who filmed all of this? This is some News Chopper footage by "News Chopper 12"

Pick a person, anyone...and follow them with your eyes. they just walk to and fro back and forth, back and forth...doing NOTHING, going NOWHERE. like someone instructed them "look busy, move around".

playa2 @ 1/30/2013 10:30 AM
All the fire trucks and most of the ambulances are boxed in. I've never seen emergency vehicles parked in this manner.

What's more revealing than the people walk around the firehouse is that no one is actually doing anything. There's no panic, no cars are moving, no policeman's lights are flashing, no one is running, fainting, crying or panicking. What are the ambulances doing? Are the drivers and nurses and doctors even nearby? Its the stillness of the scene that's the give-away.

playa2 @ 2/3/2013 10:33 PM
playa2 @ 2/5/2013 12:31 PM
From the pages of Milton William Cooper’s 1991 book Behold A Pale Horse:

“The government encouraged the manufacture and importation of firearms for the criminals to use. This is intended to foster a feeling of insecurity, which would lead the American people to voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. Using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the ant-gun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the 2nd Amendment.”


This is why they killed him.

playa2 @ 2/9/2013 1:50 PM
IronWillGiroud @ 2/15/2013 9:56 PM
stfu & gtfo with this trash
playa2 @ 2/16/2013 11:19 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:stfu & gtfo with this trash

nobody forcing you to read.....be gone already.

Others are interested in the truth.

IronWillGiroud @ 2/16/2013 6:14 PM
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:stfu & gtfo with this trash

nobody forcing you to read.....be gone already.

Others are interested in the truth.

no one is interested in this craziness you keep posting

playa2 @ 2/17/2013 12:16 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:stfu & gtfo with this trash

nobody forcing you to read.....be gone already.

Others are interested in the truth.

no one is interested in this craziness you keep posting

You don't read the views do you, plz go to the other threads don't try and disrupt what's going on here.

IronWillGiroud @ 2/17/2013 2:09 PM
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
playa2 wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:stfu & gtfo with this trash

nobody forcing you to read.....be gone already.

Others are interested in the truth.

no one is interested in this craziness you keep posting

You don't read the views do you, plz go to the other threads don't try and disrupt what's going on here.

nothing is going on here, you are only provoking,

you are a government provocateur

playa2 @ 2/17/2013 3:02 PM
People read all the time, you are acting like a govt shill with all your negativity, notice the only one complaining is U !
IronWillGiroud @ 2/17/2013 5:42 PM
no one is complaining, sure sign that the other guy is a shill? he calls you a shill!

provocateur!

playa2 @ 2/19/2013 3:16 PM
39 sec mark the kid said it was a DRILL !!!!!

So little kid you don't remember hearing gun shots? Or people screaming? All you remember is policemen in the hallways ?

Anderson Cooper busted and called a Liar

playa2 @ 2/20/2013 11:02 AM
playa2 wrote:

Watch the kid in the yellow shirt closely walk around. They have been duping us in different ways with these alleged shootings.

Who filmed all of this? This is some News Chopper footage by "News Chopper 12"

Pick a person, anyone...and follow them with your eyes. they just walk to and fro back and forth, back and forth...doing NOTHING, going NOWHERE. like someone instructed them "look busy, move around".

I think its getting safe to assume that all breaking news stories are made up now unless proven otherwise.

The only way we can believe what 'incidents' may have occurred, is if we were there and witnessed them with our own eyes.

playa2 @ 2/25/2013 5:26 PM
playa2 @ 2/28/2013 11:46 AM

Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates

Feb 21, 2013
By Ralph Lopez.

The Newtown, Connecticut Town Clerk is seeking to deny newspapers from viewing public record death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, according to the Newtown Bee.

The Clerk maintains that access to vital records such as death and marriage certificates should be limited to immediate family members or their representatives, and has undertaken to change present law.

The New York Post, the Connecticut Post, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and other media have put forth requests for official death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, the Newton Bee report says. Newtown Town Clerk Debbie Aurelia says she is working with State Representatives Dan Carter, Mitch Bolinsky, and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft state legislation:
"that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates."

Death certificates are part of vital public records, which also include birth and marriage certificates. They are public domain documents used, ultimately, to determine official recognition of presence or past presence in civil society. They also serve as a mechanism for upholding the integrity of information in which there is a public interest, as it relates to voting, citizenship, and receiving public benefits. Abuses of voting processes involving voters who, unbeknownst to the public, are actually dead, are legendary.

Death certificates typically contain little information about manner of death beyond categories such as "natural cause," "homicide," "accident," "suicide," or "other." News organizations utilize such records in crime reporting as a standard part of normal, often tedious, fact-checking procedures. Death certificates also contain the sworn statement of the medical examiner.

The Newtown Bee stated:
"Ms Aurelia said she has received requests for death certificates and other proprietary information from the New York Post , the Connecticut Post , the Associated Press and the Hartford Courant among others."
"Some are also requesting all my e-mail correspondence and text messages related to 12/14," she said."

According to the Newtown Bee, Assistant Town Clerk Renee Weimann said "I feel it’s my responsibility to protect these victims. They’ve been through enough.” Last December 14th, 20 children and 8 adults died in a shooting rampage by alleged shooter Adam Lanza.

Ms Aurelia and members of her staff testified in favor of such a bill at a hearing of the state's Public Health Committee last February 20th. The law would also exclude members of the public who are not "immediate family/authorized agency/attorney" from viewing the records, according to the Newtown Bee.

The Bee reported that the media and other sources have been making the requests under existing Freedom of Information Act laws. Media can take local, state, and federal government agencies to court over failure to comply with requests for information.

The move comes as the public awaits the answers to questions such as whether or not alleged shooter Adam Lanza was on any psychiatric medications, especially those known as SSRIs which some psychiatrists maintain have been associated with thousands of incidents of random violence, and have a causal effect. Also lacking is any further elaboration on a Connecticut State's Attorney's statement last December, in a court motion, that there may be other "potential suspects," and that revealing certain evidence at this time might "seriously jeopardize" the investigation. Connecticut State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky also said that revealing certain evidence at this time might:

"identify persons cooperating with the investigation, thus possibly jeopardizing their personal safety and well-being."
Yesterday the Hartford Courant ran a report in which Jim Smith, president of the Connecticut Council on Freedom of Information, said a death certificate is a factual document that lacks the details of an autopsy report. The Courant quotes Smith saying:
“There isn’t anything in a death certificate that is going to hurt the deceased...it’s not like an autopsy report. It’s been public for centuries. It’s not going to invade anyone’s privacy.’’

CT State Representatives Bolinsky and Carter, and Newtown Town Clerk Aurelia, all argued, according to the Courant, that identify theft was a concern, since the maiden name of the deceased's mother is on death certificates. However, this is also on birth certificates, which are not a target of the trio. Also, the proposed legislation would seal the death records only of minors under 18. It is unclear why identity thieves would not merely steal the identities of people over that age.

playa2 @ 3/2/2013 8:27 PM


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"I would like to get out of the Corrections side of things and do more transitional and one on one work with at risk youth. That's been my passion from a young age and a career I think ill continue to pursue!" - Taken From her Facebook Account

playa2 @ 4/1/2013 8:56 PM
playa2 @ 4/28/2013 11:59 AM
playa2 wrote:There is a secret agency recruiting,, lonely and disturbed young men..He talks them into a special plan. or operation.to make them feel important.and part of something big and good. this agent is not including all the details.. he coaches them.. intimidates them.. then forces them to go on the mission with him.. the special agent kills everyone.. and then kills the student he recruited and was made by force to go along with him... leaving nothing but the weapons. He escapes ..making it look like a suicide by a lone wolf. This explains wearing the mask part too.. and explains no video footage. Not a mention.. of cameras because it will show more than one shooter! and the real killer. A special shooter even military background type marksman-CIA agent???

Even James Holmes neighbor thinks he was set up


Neighbor seen Holmes running with another guy hours before shooting. Look at Greta face of disgust

playa2 @ 5/26/2013 11:14 AM
playa2 wrote:
According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?

According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?


Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/hc-m...

Dr. Carver is calling it quits. I guess after his awful performance on mainstream news the powers that be "persuaded" him to retire. I guess he just had to get away from the horrific images in his head of an empty school with no blood anywhere. Next on the retirement list will probably be Lt. Vance with the state police.


Carver had already put in for retirement before the Dec. 14 Newtown shooting. He has been suffering from health issues the past year and had only returned to work days before the massacre. Carver said the Newtown crime scene was by far the worst of his career.
Carver officially retired as of May 1 but is still working on a 120-day contract to help with the transition and complete his cases. His salary was $303,433, state records show.

Carver said Thursday he is hoping to stay on in a part-time capacity once Gill takes over, but that decision will be up to the new chief medical examiner. Carver said he "still has hundreds of cases" that he needs to finish, including some that could up in trials.

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