Knicks · GAME THREAD: ROCKETs @KNICKS 18-5: Dec. 17 Monday, Lin & Harden take aim at Garden undefeated record (page 13)

GodSaveTheKnicks @ 12/17/2012 8:43 PM
the Chandler/Felton pick n roll and JR is our offensive game plan.

JR is the only guy who can stay with Harden. Chandler is the only guy who can protect the rim.

kinda wish JR and Chandler didn't pick up those cheap fouls.

mrKnickShot @ 12/17/2012 8:44 PM
regardless of stats, that was as bad of a half that a PG can have (FELTON)

dribble dribble dribble deke blind fake between-legs miss-open-man-again dribble brick! brick-that-goes-in dribble dribble dribble

UGH

FoeDiddy @ 12/17/2012 8:44 PM
Not enough movement and passing without melo..we can't win one on one. Not worried though. Team is really low on offensive talent with the injuries. We have a whole starting lineup out.
IrishKnickFan @ 12/17/2012 8:44 PM
why cant felton play well against teh rockets and nets. Those two teams give him so much trouble
knicks1248 @ 12/17/2012 8:44 PM
Sangfroid wrote:4-23 means too many missed jumpers.

no ball movement and despite JR playing well, he's not drawing doubles, so he's a one man show

Houston doing a great job playing the passing lanes forcing them to go one on one guarding the pick and roll pretty well to

NUPE @ 12/17/2012 8:44 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
NUPE wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
NUPE wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:thank god we dont play the rockets in the playoffs because we would get swept

funny i was just thinking im glad we only see them twice a yr

No Amar'e, No Melo, No Rasheed, No Shumpert, No Camby....

I think Knicks will be fine win or lose.

Also, this game is far from over...

yes thats true however im tired of seeing us get lit up by houston

Knicks are down by like ten points. That is nothing. Where does lit up come from?!?! You need to relax and let the game play out. Even if this is a loss, I can live with it, since our roster is somewhat decimated.

The quality of play in this game says that we are getting LIT UP. The Rockets are getting whatever they want against us. I don't see an adequate response, do you?

Knicks are down by 14. Lit up would be more akin to what we did to the Lakers which was 41 points in a quarter. Lit up would be the 130+ points we gave up to HOU the firs time we played. Put on your big boy pants and stop whining.

The reality is the Knicks offense is generally trash without Melo. We can't score consistently and JR / Chandler are in foul trouble (these are two of our best defenders). When I saw that Melo was not playing I knew this game would be problematic.

ScoreBot @ 12/17/2012 8:45 PM
Halftime  
NYK 42 HOU 56
GodSaveTheKnicks @ 12/17/2012 8:45 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:regardless of stats, that was as bad of a half that a PG can have (FELTON)

dribble dribble dribble deke blind fake between-legs miss-open-man-again dribble brick! brick-that-goes-in dribble dribble dribble

UGH

Gotta look at what Felton brings to the table which is supposed to be perimiter defense and the ability to run the PnR with Tyson.

NYKBocker @ 12/17/2012 8:45 PM
Felton trying to take over is the problem. He starts moving the ball then they will do better. Rockets have problems when other team shares the ball like spurs and Dallas.
GodSaveTheKnicks @ 12/17/2012 8:46 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:why cant felton play well against teh rockets and nets. Those two teams give him so much trouble

Theoretically Deron Williams and Joe Johnson should give the entire league trouble.

Harden also kinda been putting it on the entire league too.

IronWillGiroud @ 12/17/2012 8:46 PM
Rough second quarter but not insurmountable

SOMEBODY PLEASE TRY TO CONTAIN JEREMY LIN!!

mrKnickShot @ 12/17/2012 8:46 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:regardless of stats, that was as bad of a half that a PG can have (FELTON)

dribble dribble dribble deke blind fake between-legs miss-open-man-again dribble brick! brick-that-goes-in dribble dribble dribble

UGH

Gotta look at what Felton brings to the table which is supposed to be perimiter defense and the ability to run the PnR with Tyson.

Okay.

How is that working out?

He does bring some valuable things but it does not make up for his blindness. Our PG needs to be a PG.

OGkush121 @ 12/17/2012 8:46 PM
one of the ugliest halfs to watch Knick-wise this season, at the very least the worst 2nd quarter.
playa2 @ 12/17/2012 8:46 PM
Jr smith should start for Brewer and Novak should be the shooter with the 2nd unit
NUPE @ 12/17/2012 8:47 PM
OGkush121 wrote:
NUPE wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
OGkush121 wrote:
NUPE wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
NUPE wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:thank god we dont play the rockets in the playoffs because we would get swept

funny i was just thinking im glad we only see them twice a yr

No Amar'e, No Melo, No Rasheed, No Shumpert, No Camby....

I think Knicks will be fine win or lose.

Also, this game is far from over...

yes thats true however im tired of seeing us get lit up by houston

Knicks are down by like ten points. That is nothing. Where does lit up come from?!?! You need to relax and let the game play out. Even if this is a loss, I can live with it, since our roster is somewhat decimated.


Eh, while that's true every team can look for excuses.
To me it doesn't mather how or to who we lose to, it's always painful.

This

Well, you guys have no perspective. I do. The Knicks will lose anywhere from 20 to 30 games this year. They are going to lose games. No need to get bent out of shape over any particular reg. season loss. Also, this game is far far far from over. We got totally blasted in HOU. This is not remotely similar.


No perspective? I just don't see why I should "accept" any loss because you know a team isn't going to win every time they step on the court. I know they aren't going to win every game, but when they lose it's always tough and for me it's normal to not feel ok about it.
Just because you know no team is going to go 82-0 it doesn't mean a loss is "acceptable" because of that.
You lose because you don't play well enough, and you know they can play better.

You don't see why we should not get bent out of shape in a game THAT IS NOT EVEN OVER where the opposing team is fully healthy and we are missing 3 starters and multiple bench players? Ok. To each their own.

IrishKnickFan @ 12/17/2012 8:47 PM
brewer has been a major disappoinemnt. he started the year off well he even shot the ball well but now he sucks
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN @ 12/17/2012 8:48 PM
The Knicks can still win this game. It will require a herculean effort, but I have enough confidence in this team to believe that they'll get it done.

JR is hot, but has to stay out of foul trouble. Considering how depleted we are, all the players have to be extra-wary to avoid silly fouls, while maintaining better intensity on D.

Glad that the day is coming soon where we will have both Melo and STAT back. We need them badly during this homestand.

mrKnickShot @ 12/17/2012 8:48 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:brewer has been a major disappoinemnt. he started the year off well he even shot the ball well but now he sucks

He has looked pretty awful of late

DJMUSIC @ 12/17/2012 8:48 PM
This is embarrassing, Disappointed
its early

But the Knicks & Woodson trying to get in a shootout with these guys
no fundamental basketball in passing and pick & roll, nor switching defense.

Basically playing into rockets hands of speedball

you need to as John Andriese says 'knock ' a few of em' on their tails
going down the lane, if you going to foul rockets make it count and make
em feel it.

Too easy the hoops either Lin, Harden & cast going to basket OR getting open jumpers.

Ray Felton better get his mojo going
he is the driver of the game floor & he need to set tone going to hoops and getting folks involved
to do same as opposed to kickout jumpers which aint workin'.

Woodson and coaches better blast their as_sses in halftime
fans pay too much money $ to see this crap,

especially when same team embarrassed you on their Houston Gym

The Knicks are treating Lin & Harden as if they are D-Wade, Lebron OR Durant.

The Rockets two-some is ok
but if your not going to give them any force their points aren't going to be coming easy they will put it to you
all night long unless ..you do something about it.

IrishKnickFan @ 12/17/2012 8:48 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:regardless of stats, that was as bad of a half that a PG can have (FELTON)

dribble dribble dribble deke blind fake between-legs miss-open-man-again dribble brick! brick-that-goes-in dribble dribble dribble

UGH

Gotta look at what Felton brings to the table which is supposed to be perimiter defense and the ability to run the PnR with Tyson.

Okay.

How is that working out?

He does bring some valuable things but it does not make up for his blindness. Our PG needs to be a PG.

i agree im sick of the felton lovefest. yes he has had some good games but he has also has some awful ones. When he plays teh nets and rockets he kills us
AnubisADL @ 12/17/2012 8:48 PM
Knicks have no scorers outside of Melo and Smith.

Dont worry we have the MVP Kidd to lead us.

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