mrKnickShot wrote:tkf wrote:so let me get this straight... felton is the scapegoat now?
Nope.
Its not his fault - it EVIL MELO'S FAULT
LOL
dude felton is not a bad guy, pretty good player,but he and brewer were the same guys I thought they were.. yet we had multiple love threads for felton and brewer while trashing lin and fields..
go figure..
I love Felton at 4 million per. I dont love Felton at 8 million per.
Just like I dont mind Smith playing like ass when he is making 2.5 million.
We get a good start but we know our weeknesses.
We are old and slow. To compensate we need a lot of bodies plaing short minutes.
When inguries came this became painfully clear.
Kid canot do it well in more that 20 min.
Felton need to be reinfirced and kept in check. Olter old dudes will be in and out.
The teem will go as far as Melo will take them.
It was clear right from the start and nothing changed.
As season will go on and minutes will add up we will see more struggles.
The hope is that STAT and shrimp will come back and bring some game with them. But who knows?
tkf wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:tkf wrote:so let me get this straight... felton is the scapegoat now?
Nope.
Its not his fault - it EVIL MELO'S FAULT
LOL
dude felton is not a bad guy, pretty good player,but he and brewer were the same guys I thought they were.. yet we had multiple love threads for felton and brewer while trashing lin and fields..go figure..
And then when someone says something negative about Felton, you think they're making him the scapegoat. So which one do you want?
ScoreBot wrote:Final
NYK 96 HOU 109
Schooled by Lin and the Rockets...AGAIN!
arkrud wrote:We get a good start but we know our weeknesses.
We are old and slow. To compensate we need a lot of bodies plaing short minutes.
When inguries came this became painfully clear.
Kid canot do it well in more that 20 min.
Felton need to be reinfirced and kept in check. Olter old dudes will be in and out.
The teem will go as far as Melo will take them.
It was clear right from the start and nothing changed.
As season will go on and minutes will add up we will see more struggles.
The hope is that STAT and shrimp will come back and bring some game with them. But who knows?
Like any elite team. If Durant goes down, Kobe, rose, Duncan, Lebron, garnett
tkf wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:tkf wrote:so let me get this straight... felton is the scapegoat now?
Nope.
Its not his fault - it EVIL MELO'S FAULT
LOL
dude felton is not a bad guy, pretty good player,but he and brewer were the same guys I thought they were.. yet we had multiple love threads for felton and brewer while trashing lin and fields..go figure..
Not a bad guy. Agreed.
You like or dislike guys but I am never sure why. Are you a stat geek or not? Is a TS of 47 percent a "pretty good" player? How about WS? Or, only when it is convenient? It is not bad for 4 mil though.
Fields was/is trash - I know you stick to our picks but you gotta cut the chord on this one.
Brewer is better than he has shown (IMHO)
Fields vs Brewer is not even a question. One is making 1mil then other 7mil per
AnubisADL wrote:I love Felton at 4 million per. I dont love Felton at 8 million per.Just like I dont mind Smith playing like ass when he is making 2.5 million.
Could not agree more!
JR is a STEAL at 2.5, Woody just has to use him smartly
Felton is a good deal at 4 million but now we have a 4 million dollar PG
mrKnickShot wrote:AnubisADL wrote:I love Felton at 4 million per. I dont love Felton at 8 million per.Just like I dont mind Smith playing like ass when he is making 2.5 million.
Could not agree more!
JR is a STEAL at 2.5, Woody just has to use him smartly
Felton is a good deal at 4 million but now we have a 4 million dollar PG
4 million dollar point guard is the main reason we are 2-2 with Melo right now.
Anji wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:AnubisADL wrote:I love Felton at 4 million per. I dont love Felton at 8 million per.Just like I dont mind Smith playing like ass when he is making 2.5 million.
Could not agree more!
JR is a STEAL at 2.5, Woody just has to use him smartly
Felton is a good deal at 4 million but now we have a 4 million dollar PG
4 million dollar point guard is the main reason we are 2-2 with Melo right now.
not sure what you mean
mrKnickShot wrote:Anji wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:AnubisADL wrote:I love Felton at 4 million per. I dont love Felton at 8 million per.Just like I dont mind Smith playing like ass when he is making 2.5 million.
Could not agree more!
JR is a STEAL at 2.5, Woody just has to use him smartly
Felton is a good deal at 4 million but now we have a 4 million dollar PG
4 million dollar point guard is the main reason we are 2-2 with Melo right now.
not sure what you mean
*without*
FoeDiddy wrote:gunsnewing wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:TeamBall wrote:While I get - and agree- with the Felton criticism, I still think he plays closer to what we saw at the beginning of the season at full strength
based on his career numbers I would say that the beginning of the season was the anomaly
This 1000%
16 and 7 assist at 40% with less attempts. I'll take that for what we paid and melo, chandler and amre taking Thr bulk of the shots. Throw in once every 4 games him going off. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said u can't have a allstar at every position. Past champions have proven u don't need a stud or even an above average pg to win.
What team (non triangle offense and Houston) won it all with a weak PG?
And even those triangle teams had low usage/high IQ guys at the position and so did Houston which was a team built with shooters just waiting for a kick out.
The Knicks run a PG-centric offense
Ol' bruise hands had a bad night. Old man kidd too. Chanler didn't do anything on D but shove Lin. Brewer sucked and needs a week or two vacation to rest his hand and knee.
Very bad game.
FoeDiddy wrote:arkrud wrote:We get a good start but we know our weeknesses.
We are old and slow. To compensate we need a lot of bodies plaing short minutes.
When inguries came this became painfully clear.
Kid canot do it well in more that 20 min.
Felton need to be reinfirced and kept in check. Olter old dudes will be in and out.
The teem will go as far as Melo will take them.
It was clear right from the start and nothing changed.
As season will go on and minutes will add up we will see more struggles.
The hope is that STAT and shrimp will come back and bring some game with them. But who knows?
Like any elite team. If Durant goes down, Kobe, rose, Duncan, Lebron, garnett
+100. This is the point that I was trying to make earlier. The Knicks started the season injury-hit so they needed everybody to stay healthy til those guys returned. Now that other guys have gone down, including the superstar, they're starting to feel it. Luckily, Melo's injury isn't long term.
felton almost never gets to the line and that's one problem among many. no savvy to his game at all-- that's another problem.
the knicks are very boring to watch with him trying to run things.
39TS% wow is that bad.
that said the defense was very bad.
yellowboy90 wrote:Ol' bruise hands had a bad night. Old man kidd too. Chanler didn't do anything on D but shove Lin. Brewer sucked and needs a week or two vacation to rest his hand and knee.Very bad game.
Luckily they'll all get a much needed rest around New Years. I believe they've got about three days off around that time.
dk7th wrote:felton almost never gets to the line and that's one problem among many. no savvy to his game at all-- that's another problem.the knicks are very boring to watch with him trying to run things.
39TS% wow is that bad.
that said the defense was very bad.
It was an off shooting night - Kidd and Novak couldn't buy a bucket - that happens.
Felton's play is alarming and that has been a glaring issue
dk,
I usually find your analysis pretty in depth. Someone mentioned Baron Davis and had he had a high bball IQ.
whats your take on him?
mrKnickShot wrote:FoeDiddy wrote:gunsnewing wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:TeamBall wrote:While I get - and agree- with the Felton criticism, I still think he plays closer to what we saw at the beginning of the season at full strength
based on his career numbers I would say that the beginning of the season was the anomaly
This 1000%
16 and 7 assist at 40% with less attempts. I'll take that for what we paid and melo, chandler and amre taking Thr bulk of the shots. Throw in once every 4 games him going off. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said u can't have a allstar at every position. Past champions have proven u don't need a stud or even an above average pg to win.
What team (non triangle offense and Houston) won it all with a weak PG?
And even those triangle teams had low usage/high IQ guys at the position and so did Houston which was a team built with shooters just waiting for a kick out.
The Knicks run a PG-centric offense
Miami, Dallas, lakers..Knicks do not run a pg centric offense...they run a melo and when healthy amare centric offense just like Dallas ran a dirk centric offense. Things look pg centric when u remove the stud players out the equation.
NYDiva wrote:FoeDiddy wrote:arkrud wrote:We get a good start but we know our weeknesses.
We are old and slow. To compensate we need a lot of bodies plaing short minutes.
When inguries came this became painfully clear.
Kid canot do it well in more that 20 min.
Felton need to be reinfirced and kept in check. Olter old dudes will be in and out.
The teem will go as far as Melo will take them.
It was clear right from the start and nothing changed.
As season will go on and minutes will add up we will see more struggles.
The hope is that STAT and shrimp will come back and bring some game with them. But who knows?
Like any elite team. If Durant goes down, Kobe, rose, Duncan, Lebron, garnett
+100. This is the point that I was trying to make earlier. The Knicks started the season injury-hit so they needed everybody to stay healthy til those guys returned. Now that other guys have gone down, including the superstar, they're starting to feel it. Luckily, Melo's injury isn't long term.
No doubt.
But my concern is about very short window this team has.
We need Melo at 100% but we also need all luck in world to get to the top quickly.
It was cool so far but luck is just a probability fluctuation. 82 games will not lie...
One thing Felton does REALLY well is give the ball to Melo and get out of the way
