fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:you must be having a laugh... a bunch of secondary pieces--at best--elsewhere were primary pieces here. And what are we going to do, forget Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, Jerome James, Eddy Curry... how about the wonderful coaching environments for Lenny and Larry? I'm sure Isiah said he deserved this type of of credit to Anucha Brown Suanders while he was unzipping his pants. Time for you to pass to the left bro because Isiah Thomas deserves no fucking credit at all. You seriously must be having a laugh
that and for every good Zeke pick there was a lemon or a total swing and miss. Like taking Balkman with Rondo on the board (if memory serves me). The only thing Zeke did was actually draft guys.Picks are going to be huge, and should be looking to aquire them. Knicks are going to need the cheap labor if nothing else
that's right... Lowry was also passed up but at the time we were told it was no big deal because we bought Malik rose's shit contract to draft the immortal Mardy Collins.
Isiah's best draft pick was David Lee and Isiah said himself that he had no interest in Lee and that he was lucky he listened to his draft staff
if Isiah wasn't obsessed with the spotlight he probably would have fit in rather nicely as a member of a scouting department. But not running it... if you look at his draft history in Toronto it isn't that impressive because while he drafted good players he could have drafted better players. But he is a narcissist that loved to see his goofy ass grin on the backpages
anyway, there's my 'honest credit' to Isiah. What a curse he's been... and on that note, deuces. Wasting more of my time with Isiah Thomas is just plain dumb
fishmike wrote:just goes to show Knicks have no patience with talent. Golden State and Lee are rolling and he's a bigtime player. Denver is rolling also with Gallo winning the game last night. We tried to trade Shump for Nash. Douglas and Lin both playing well and have beaten us twice.. its a problem with the organization for sure
Amen
BRIGGS wrote:Zach Randolph David Lee and Jamal Crawford are all playing serious roles on some top NBA teams this year. Even Nate has held his own with Chicago as the primary back up. Too bad we couldnt make it work here--the talent was here.
isiah knew talent, just didn't know how to put it together and often gave up too much value to get that talent.. that was his problem.. he should have been a scout, not a GM or coach..
fishmike wrote:just goes to show Knicks have no patience with talent. Golden State and Lee are rolling and he's a bigtime player. Denver is rolling also with Gallo winning the game last night. We tried to trade Shump for Nash. Douglas and Lin both playing well and have beaten us twice.. its a problem with the organization for sure
that is for sure.. dolan is an impetuous fool.. that we know... watching our kids flourish elsewhere sucks, but hey, I do enjoy watching them..
Bonn1997 wrote:fishmike wrote:just goes to show Knicks have no patience with talent. Golden State and Lee are rolling and he's a bigtime player. Denver is rolling also with Gallo winning the game last night. We tried to trade Shump for Nash. Douglas and Lin both playing well and have beaten us twice.. its a problem with the organization for sure
Denver has had an insanely bad schedule to start the season - 18 away and 8 home games, and their opponents have a .542 winning%. They've been consistently in the top 10 in Hollinger's power rankings. I think they'll finish with at least a .600 winning percentage - maybe even upper .600s. They're currently #7 in the league in power rankings and we're #5.
they have been on the road a lot, tough schedule.. last night I was watching the game of course and you can see the advantage they have at home.. the spurs were tired.. denver can run you out of that building in that thin air.... at one point pop reverted to "hack a mcgee".. it didn't work... and they had no one that could handle gallo...
Bonn1997 wrote:I hate that the new CBA made it much harder to buy picks.
yet knowing this, we give them away like free candy, the marcus camby trade is a prime example..
SupremeCommander wrote:fishmike wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:you must be having a laugh... a bunch of secondary pieces--at best--elsewhere were primary pieces here. And what are we going to do, forget Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, Jerome James, Eddy Curry... how about the wonderful coaching environments for Lenny and Larry? I'm sure Isiah said he deserved this type of of credit to Anucha Brown Suanders while he was unzipping his pants. Time for you to pass to the left bro because Isiah Thomas deserves no fucking credit at all. You seriously must be having a laugh
that and for every good Zeke pick there was a lemon or a total swing and miss. Like taking Balkman with Rondo on the board (if memory serves me). The only thing Zeke did was actually draft guys.Picks are going to be huge, and should be looking to aquire them. Knicks are going to need the cheap labor if nothing else
that's right... Lowry was also passed up but at the time we were told it was no big deal because we bought Malik rose's shit contract to draft the immortal Mardy Collins.
Isiah's best draft pick was David Lee and Isiah said himself that he had no interest in Lee and that he was lucky he listened to his draft staff
if Isiah wasn't obsessed with the spotlight he probably would have fit in rather nicely as a member of a scouting department. But not running it... if you look at his draft history in Toronto it isn't that impressive because while he drafted good players he could have drafted better players. But he is a narcissist that loved to see his goofy ass grin on the backpages
anyway, there's my 'honest credit' to Isiah. What a curse he's been... and on that note, deuces. Wasting more of my time with Isiah Thomas is just plain dumb
honestly, I can't disagree with you there... LOL
Speaking of Ezekiel, for those of us that have NBA TV, will get to see everday!
ATLANTA -- Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas will join NBA TV as a studio analyst.Thomas will debut Friday and make several appearances a month. He'll also be a regular contributor to NBA.com.
The 12-time All-Star point guard led the Detroit Pistons to two NBA titles. But he's more recently remembered for his stint running the New York Knicks, who failed to win a playoff game with Thomas as coach or president. His tenure was marked by big contracts for marginal players, the acquisitions of Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry and a sexual harassment scandal.
Thomas coached in college at Florida International for three seasons before being fired in April with a record of 26-65.
ChuckBuck wrote:Speaking of Ezekiel, for those of us that NBA TV, will get to see everday! ATLANTA -- Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas will join NBA TV as a studio analyst.Thomas will debut Friday and make several appearances a month. He'll also be a regular contributor to NBA.com.
The 12-time All-Star point guard led the Detroit Pistons to two NBA titles. But he's more recently remembered for his stint running the New York Knicks, who failed to win a playoff game with Thomas as coach or president. His tenure was marked by big contracts for marginal players, the acquisitions of Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry and a sexual harassment scandal.
Thomas coached in college at Florida International for three seasons before being fired in April with a record of 26-65.
The thought of listening to or watching Isiah just makes me want to vomit on my keyboard.
tkf wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Zach Randolph David Lee and Jamal Crawford are all playing serious roles on some top NBA teams this year. Even Nate has held his own with Chicago as the primary back up. Too bad we couldnt make it work here--the talent was here.
isiah knew talent, just didn't know how to put it together and often gave up too much value to get that talent.. that was his problem.. he should have been a scout, not a GM or coach..
Co-signed
Are any of the guys you mentioned the centerpiece of their team? No. They all are one piece; Important pieces, but just pieces. Secondly, you need complimentary pieces. What Isiah did was not the way to build an NBA team. It works on Playstation, though...
Right.
This whole thread is hilarious. The Somberettes will tell you:
1) Don't pee on the yoots we traded away when they're busy wetting they're pants in other people's jerseys; it only matters what they did while they were here.
but,
2) Praise the yoots and rage on the stupidity of our franchise when they play well in other places.
If you wait long enough, hopefully we will see the resurrection of Eddy Curry and Jerome Jordan and Fishlips, appearing on an MVP list!
No amount of facts will change unbelief.
Tony Douglas. He actually said "TD is playing well". SMH.
Anyone busy googling Landry's stats right now?
Panos wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Speaking of Ezekiel, for those of us that NBA TV, will get to see everday! ATLANTA -- Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas will join NBA TV as a studio analyst.Thomas will debut Friday and make several appearances a month. He'll also be a regular contributor to NBA.com.
The 12-time All-Star point guard led the Detroit Pistons to two NBA titles. But he's more recently remembered for his stint running the New York Knicks, who failed to win a playoff game with Thomas as coach or president. His tenure was marked by big contracts for marginal players, the acquisitions of Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry and a sexual harassment scandal.
Thomas coached in college at Florida International for three seasons before being fired in April with a record of 26-65.
The thought of listening to or watching Isiah just makes me want to vomit on my keyboard.
I agree. I am now boycotting NBA TV.
I think Isiah isn't bad as a scout at all. I just think he cannot see the bigger picture. Most people can't either, and that's why only a handful good at being GMs. I think it will be good idea again if he works as a scout for Knicks, but nothing more than that. Maybe he has way too much in common in terms of his practice with Jimmy Dolan and that's why Jimmy always cherished him (I always mock them being gay couple, but I was only half serious), which makes more sense because that's what Jimmy does and fails. But yeah, Isiah do get credit for scouting, even if he doesn't take full credit himself.
JamesLin wrote:I think Isiah isn't bad as a scout at all. I just think he cannot see the bigger picture. Most people can't either, and that's why only a handful good at being GMs. I think it will be good idea again if he works as a scout for Knicks, but nothing more than that. Maybe he has way too much in common in terms of his practice with Jimmy Dolan and that's why Jimmy always cherished him (I always mock them being gay couple, but I was only half serious), which makes more sense because that's what Jimmy does and fails. But yeah, Isiah do get credit for scouting, even if he doesn't take full credit himself.
I don't want him anywhere near the Knicks in any capacity. Not sure what Dolan's deal is with the guy but despite all of the damage and embarassment he caused the team he seems to want him back in some capacity. In regards to the Knicks scouts I think they have done pretty well getting guys in here with second round picks and from all around the globe that can play. Isiah does not have a track record of success and he doesn't want to be in the background.
I totally agree with you about him not wanting to be in the background and would want to crave more.. nvm.. forget what I said.. Isiah Thomas should stay away from Knicks as much as possible.. good luck separating him and Jimmy Dolan tho..
Isiah was quite good when he was on NBC.
Then he left.
Phuch Isiah. Piece of shyt starphucher, father, husband, coach, GM, CBA Commish, and anything he touched post playing career.
gunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:just goes to show Knicks have no patience with talent. Golden State and Lee are rolling and he's a bigtime player. Denver is rolling also with Gallo winning the game last night. We tried to trade Shump for Nash. Douglas and Lin both playing well and have beaten us twice.. its a problem with the organization for sure
Amen
Thats a bunch of crap, none of those guys are playing on contending teams..yeah there winning a few games, be lets be honest..those players got us even better players..
Nate's deal for this season is not guaranteed for the season until January 10th.
Rose is due back as is someone else.
Nate might be cut sooner than later.
I don't know what the Globetrotters can pay but Nate would be a hell of an attraction to see!
n8 seems to have turned the corner (or would you disagree Nalod). Maybe the lack of offers this off season sobered him up but, from what I have seen, he's actually starting to resemble a point guard, has played under control and provided a good spark off the bench
Is NBA TV going to have a bean counter for the amount of times he mentions he was raised in the West side of Chicago?
Hard to give credit to someone who (under his watch) gave us a collection of the worst seasons in this franchise's history. He was an overpaid, overpowered talent scout.
