ChuckBuck wrote:VCoug wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:VCoug wrote:There's been something wrong with Tyson all season, he's not playing defense the way he did last year or the year before. I think he might be tired after playing a lot of minutes during a condensed season last year and playing in the Olympics instead of being able to rest. Asik's been really good for Houston and I'm guessing Chicago regrets not matching that contract (that sounds familiar
). Asik's a better at rebounding, never Tyson's strongest skill, and he's probably been better defensively than Tyson so far this season. But, I'd wait until after the All-Star break when Tyson will hopefully be getting some rest and the returns for Camby, Sheed, and Amare will allow us to reduce Tyson's minutes.
I think Tyson's not contesting shots the way he did in the past out of necessity. Too keep himself fresh, to be a PnR option, and to stay out of foul trouble at the same time. Knicks lack of healthy bigs is a definitely one of the reasons.
I think once Marcus can actually log some major minutes, Sheed stops wearing Air Force 1s, and Amare is finally here, it'll allow Tyson to be "Tyson" and be more agressive defensively.
I don't know. Last season our backups were Jared Jeffries and Josh Harrelson and he played much better defensively even when Amare was hurt.
Excluding Shumpert, we had Toney Douglas, Mike Bibby, Baron Davis and Jeremy Lin all getting blown by so Chandler had more shot blocking opportunities.
Our backcourt has been just as much as a turnstile as last year's and Shumpert hasn't played at all this season so it's not that. I'm just not seeing the same player defensively that I did last season. I believe if he played like this last year there's no chance he would have won DPOY.
NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I bet if the Rockets were doing the exact same thing but Lin had never played here, people here would be giving them much more credit for doing this with a team of rookies and sophomores.
mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
The new Denver Nuggets, regular season champs.
Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I bet if the Rockets were doing the exact same thing but Lin had never played here, people here would be giving them much more credit for doing this with a team of rookies and sophomores.
I'd bet if Lin wasn't on the Rockets, the rockets wouldn't be talked about.
How about Lee and Golden State getting some love?
Doing quite well out there.
knickscity wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
The new Denver Nuggets, regular season champs.
We're 1-8 in the post-season with Melo. I know there were injuries but I wouldn't be focusing on the regular vs. post-season distinction if I were you.
knickscity wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I bet if the Rockets were doing the exact same thing but Lin had never played here, people here would be giving them much more credit for doing this with a team of rookies and sophomores.
I'd bet if Lin wasn't on the Rockets, the rockets wouldn't talked about.How about Lee and Golden Stat getting some love?
I'd be talking about them since I've been saying for a few years that we should offer everything we can for Harden.
Bonn1997 wrote:knickscity wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
The new Denver Nuggets, regular season champs.
We're 1-8 in the post-season with Melo. I know there were injuries but I wouldn't be focusing on the regular vs. post-season distinction if I were you.
I wouldn't be focused on the rockets on a knicks board either, but hey.....
knickscity wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:knickscity wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
The new Denver Nuggets, regular season champs.
We're 1-8 in the post-season with Melo. I know there were injuries but I wouldn't be focusing on the regular vs. post-season distinction if I were you.
I wouldn't be focused on the rockets on a knicks board either, but hey.....
Yet you are focused on them...
Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I bet if the Rockets were doing the exact same thing but Lin had never played here, people here would be giving them much more credit for doing this with a team of rookies and sophomores.
I don't like or dislike the Rockets. Also, why would any sane person come to a Knicks fan board to give the Rocket's credit for being two games over .500. LMAO! You seem to be confused.
NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
Have you seen how Brewer's played this season? He might be the worst player in the league right now.
NUPE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I bet if the Rockets were doing the exact same thing but Lin had never played here, people here would be giving them much more credit for doing this with a team of rookies and sophomores.
I don't like or dislike the Rockets. Also, why would any sane person come to a Knicks fan board to give the Rocket's credit for being two games over .500. LMAO! You seem to be confused.
I didn't come here to give the Rockets credit. I know you're a newbie but I actually came here 8 years ago and was not at all interested in the Rockets at the time.
mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I have seen every last one of their games... they need to get better defensively, but that team can score points with ease... they will hang 120 on you before you know it... they can put 5 guys on the floor that have to be paid attention to , pretty much at all times... heck even Douglas is now becoming a threat scoring the ball.... jeez.... they are also the youngest team in the league... not bad..
knickscity wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I bet if the Rockets were doing the exact same thing but Lin had never played here, people here would be giving them much more credit for doing this with a team of rookies and sophomores.
I'd bet if Lin wasn't on the Rockets, the rockets wouldn't be talked about.How about Lee and Golden State getting some love?
Doing quite well out there.
golden state is fantastic, I expected them to be good actually, but surprised they are this good without bogut... I don't think anyone is ignoring them at all...
tkf wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I have seen every last one of their games... they need to get better defensively, but that team can score points with ease... they will hang 120 on you before you know it... they can put 5 guys on the floor that have to be paid attention to , pretty much at all times... heck even Douglas is now becoming a threat scoring the ball.... jeez.... they are also the youngest team in the league... not bad..
Far above what I expected out of them. TD is still a bonehead with his shots but I like the kid and am happy that he is doing better. MDA killed his confidence.
Harden is incredible.
besides being die hard knick fans, I am sure some of us are just as big a fan of the NBA.... I love watching NBA games in general.. One thing dolan and his foolishness has taught me, is to enjoy the NBA product as a whole... I will leave it at that...
mrKnickShot wrote:tkf wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:NUPE wrote:Yes...Lin > Felton
Asik > Chandler
Harden > Melo
Parsons > Brewer
Rockets: 15 - 12
Knicks: 20 - 8
Knicks Suck!
11-2 against the east. The Rockets are a scary team on the rise. If you can't see that it is fine.
I have seen every last one of their games... they need to get better defensively, but that team can score points with ease... they will hang 120 on you before you know it... they can put 5 guys on the floor that have to be paid attention to , pretty much at all times... heck even Douglas is now becoming a threat scoring the ball.... jeez.... they are also the youngest team in the league... not bad..
Far above what I expected out of them. TD is still a bonehead with his shots but I like the kid and am happy that he is doing better. MDA killed his confidence.
Harden is incredible.
yea the rockets have surprised some, even myself... harden is incredible and right now he and lin are forming a nice back court... Douglas finally has a role and he looks comfortable..
Look at this, we lose one game vs the Lakers and we turn on each other like a pack of animals!
smackeddog wrote:Look at this, we lose one game vs the Lakers and we turn on each other like a pack of animals!
who is turning on anyone?
This thread was to compare 2 players. Was it an unfair comparison? If yes, how?
As far as my dislike for the current Knicks team. I mainly have a beef with Felton and always have.
