gunsnewing wrote:yep and he is a career 40% shooter with an awful player efficiency ratings
Most PGs seem to shoot 40%-42% these days, unfortunately. Its one of the things that makes Irving stand out- I think he was shooting about 47% in his rookie season- pretty impressive.
smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yep and he is a career 40% shooter with an awful player efficiency ratings
Most PGs seem to shoot 40%-42% these days, unfortunately. Its one of the things that makes Irving stand out- I think he was shooting about 47% in his rookie season- pretty impressive.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player...
That's not true. That's a list of every point guard in the league ranked by FG%; you have to scroll down to 28th, Mike Conley, to find the first PG shooting worse than 43%.
Damn got to go down to #58 to find Felton at 39.6%
Raymond Felton - 58th in Shooting, 16th in assists, 38th in 3-Pointers, 24th in Steal, 74th in TOs - INCREDIBLE.
And there's a 35 page thread on him.
We had a 3 headed monster what more could we need than this?
smackeddog wrote:holfresh wrote:I could be wrong but I think what Felton was doing is part of Woody's game plan...What Woodson has done is take the different facets of what made his players successful and incorporate it into his offensive game plan...Felton played his best two years ago being aggressive, getting into the lane..He was about getting other players looks, drawing attention, dishing off his penetration...He was taking 14 shots per game during that time( career high at the time), he is now doing the same taking 16 shots per game, career high now...Chandler, a few pick and roll...Melo is now playing the type of game that now suits his particular skills...A few post ups..Catching it on the elbow and shooting a few threes...Dribble penetration...I have no doubt when Amare comes back they will try to integrate him into the offense doing the things that most suits his game...We need Felton to make it happen...Felton shot attemts will fall into line towards his career numbers when we are fully healthy...But saying all that...There is so much more this guy does to help us win and take the pressure off others by his aggressiveness and his defensive play...Shot attempts does not tell the entire story or we wouldn't have been 20-8 with him playing his game...
Didn't Felton and also Alan Hahn say that he preferred to pass, but the defense started playing him differently, meaning they took away the pass and kind of forced him to shoot?
Well isn't that part of being aggressive equation..Taking the shot when given...
Ray shot a lot better before his injuries...The number that really matters is 20-8 when he is in the line up..How many other PG's can match that??..
holfresh wrote:smackeddog wrote:holfresh wrote:I could be wrong but I think what Felton was doing is part of Woody's game plan...What Woodson has done is take the different facets of what made his players successful and incorporate it into his offensive game plan...Felton played his best two years ago being aggressive, getting into the lane..He was about getting other players looks, drawing attention, dishing off his penetration...He was taking 14 shots per game during that time( career high at the time), he is now doing the same taking 16 shots per game, career high now...Chandler, a few pick and roll...Melo is now playing the type of game that now suits his particular skills...A few post ups..Catching it on the elbow and shooting a few threes...Dribble penetration...I have no doubt when Amare comes back they will try to integrate him into the offense doing the things that most suits his game...We need Felton to make it happen...Felton shot attemts will fall into line towards his career numbers when we are fully healthy...But saying all that...There is so much more this guy does to help us win and take the pressure off others by his aggressiveness and his defensive play...Shot attempts does not tell the entire story or we wouldn't have been 20-8 with him playing his game...
Didn't Felton and also Alan Hahn say that he preferred to pass, but the defense started playing him differently, meaning they took away the pass and kind of forced him to shoot?
Well isn't that part of being aggressive equation..Taking the shot when given...
It's about taking good shots that you can hit consistently. We could build our offense around Tyson Chandler 3-pointers and he'd be open every time, doesn't mean it would help us win games.
holfresh wrote:Ray shot a lot better before his injuries...The number that really matters is 20-8 when he is in the line up..How many other PG's can match that??..
Mario Chalmers, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, and Chris Paul.
smackeddog wrote:gunsnewing wrote:yep and he is a career 40% shooter with an awful player efficiency ratings
Most PGs seem to shoot 40%-42% these days, unfortunately. Its one of the things that makes Irving stand out- I think he was shooting about 47% in his rookie season- pretty impressive.
There are 33 PGs with enough attempts to qualify in ESPN's ranking of points per shot. Of those 33, you know where Felton ranks? Here's a hint: if he has a really hot streak, he may be able to move up to 32nd! He's actually not even remotely close to 32nd (1.06 vs. 0.96).
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player...What this is saying is that each time he shoots the ball, his team gets less in return than any other team gets from shots by their PGs.
WOW behind Brandon Jennings and Monte Ellis
gunsnewing wrote:WOW behind Brandon Jennings and Monte Ellis
BTW, did you see who was #1?
Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:WOW behind Brandon Jennings and Monte Ellis
BTW, did you see who was #1?
yes but Kidd rarely shoots. I'm more impressed with Paul & Parker being #2 & 3
Another Felton hate thread?
gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:WOW behind Brandon Jennings and Monte Ellis
BTW, did you see who was #1?
yes but Kidd rarely shoots. I'm more impressed with Paul & Parker being #2 & 3
Yeah, those players are definitely more impressive but what Kidd's doing is still excellent.
Anji wrote:Novack for Raymond Sessions
Novack for Aaron Brooks
Novack for Steve Blake
Novack for Will Bynum
all these guys are on losing teams..no thank you
knicks1248 wrote:Anji wrote:Novack for Raymond Sessions
Novack for Aaron Brooks
Novack for Steve Blake
Novack for Will Bynum
all these guys are on losing teams..no thank you
Novak for Kyrie Irving.
VCoug wrote:holfresh wrote:Ray shot a lot better before his injuries...The number that really matters is 20-8 when he is in the line up..How many other PG's can match that??..
Mario Chalmers, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, and Chris Paul.
So only 4 in a league of 30??
knickscity wrote:Another Felton hate thread?
Partially but not entirely. Knicks need a real PG outside of Kidd who may be playing his final year and can't play big mins anymore
holfresh wrote:VCoug wrote:holfresh wrote:Ray shot a lot better before his injuries...The number that really matters is 20-8 when he is in the line up..How many other PG's can match that??..
Mario Chalmers, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, and Chris Paul.
So only 4 in a league of 30??
Yep, and it's all because of Felton the rest of the team has nothing to do with it. That's why his teams in Charlotte and Portland were always so good.
VCoug wrote:holfresh wrote:VCoug wrote:holfresh wrote:Ray shot a lot better before his injuries...The number that really matters is 20-8 when he is in the line up..How many other PG's can match that??..
Mario Chalmers, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, and Chris Paul.
So only 4 in a league of 30??
Yep, and it's all because of Felton the rest of the team has nothing to do with it. That's why his teams in Charlotte and Portland were always so good.
Not comparing the two, but Chris Paul's teams sucked in NO..What conclusions might u draw from the Clippers playing well now...
