Knicks · We need a PG (page 5)

holfresh @ 12/29/2012 7:15 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

gunsnewing @ 12/29/2012 7:15 PM
As I said the way the team is built now with 40yr and 36yr old PGs Felton is needed because there are no other options or flexibility to get a better PG. Just have to hope Felton doesn't cost you a playoff series with his 39% shooting
mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:16 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

English please?

mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:As I said the way the team is built now with 40yr and 36yr old PGs Felton is needed because there are no other options or flexibility to get a better PG. Just have to hope Felton doesn't cost you a playoff series with his 39% shooting

Oh - he will don't you worry. Its always helpful to have a PG with an IQ of 68 and who can't shoot to lead you in the playoffs.

Bonn1997 @ 12/29/2012 7:17 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

English please?


You translator need
holfresh @ 12/29/2012 7:17 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

English please?

Right...

mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:19 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

English please?

Right...

Sorry your are right.

Felton is an incredible glue guy and despite him being a complete bonehead, I look forward to him leading this team to/in the playoffs.

knickscity @ 12/29/2012 7:19 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...


I do think we are winning despite his play, although I wont say he hasn't helped the team win any games, because he has.

Hell Tyson at one point was feasting off felton misses, might as well been passes.

That is funny!


It's true and sad at the same time.
holfresh @ 12/29/2012 7:19 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

English please?


You translator need

Are u the same dude trying to push Novak's value ahead of JR's using your metrics??..Explain that if you will???

gunsnewing @ 12/29/2012 7:20 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:No question is a part of the success. It will become obvious when Kidd is shut down with a bad back and Felton gets full reign. Doesn't change the fact that we were better off with Lin in the short and long term

It depends on what you mean by "part of the success." I think people are choosing the wrong comparison. If you ask, "Are we better off with a healthy Felton than with losing Felton, having no replacement, and forcing Kidd and Prig to play too many minutes," the answer is yes, but that's a bad question to ask because there are always other options. A better question is, "Is Felton better than what a GM should be capable of buying for 4 years, $18 mil?" He makes just slightly below the league average salary but he is way below average in scoring efficiency and does not compensate for that by being way above average in anything. Or perhaps you can ask, "Does Felton provide substantially more than a guard at a much lower salary?" I highly doubt it. How does he compare, for example, to Chris Duhon (2 yrs, $8 mil), Jason Terry (3 yrs, $15 mil), Keyon Dooling (1 yr, $1.3 mil), Louis Williams (3 yrs, $15 mil)? I'm sure there are many more examples - I just scanned the payrolls for a few teams. I think each of the guys above is a better bargain.

Once Kidd goes down and Felton gets full reign people will not be looking at Felton as a reason why we are 21-9 is what I'm saying. His 39% shooting on 16 shots will stick out like a sore thumb

knickscity @ 12/29/2012 7:20 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:I love the dopes pointing to our record and trying to give Felton props because of it

were we not 18-6 finishing off last season with many TD and MB games?

Not sure about the Dopes part but yes very good point. As I've said all along Melo, Amare, Lin, Tyson, Kidd, Shump, JR, Camby, Rasheed, Cope is a hell of a team


No proof, we haven't seen that team before.
mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:21 PM
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...


I do think we are winning despite his play, although I wont say he hasn't helped the team win any games, because he has.

Hell Tyson at one point was feasting off felton misses, might as well been passes.

That is funny!


It's true and sad at the same time.

extremely sad for the most part.

We finally are in a position to win and we bring this idiot PG as our leader?

gunsnewing @ 12/29/2012 7:24 PM
knickscity wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:I love the dopes pointing to our record and trying to give Felton props because of it

were we not 18-6 finishing off last season with many TD and MB games?

Not sure about the Dopes part but yes very good point. As I've said all along Melo, Amare, Lin, Tyson, Kidd, Shump, JR, Camby, Rasheed, Cope is a hell of a team


No proof, we haven't seen that team before.

We saw 6-1 with Melo, Amare & Lin under Woodson. Something tells me the 18-6 record to end the year would not change much had Lin and Amare been healthy

We sure as hell wouldn't have gotten embarrassed by Miami in 5games

holfresh @ 12/29/2012 7:25 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...

Key to them sucking recently? I agree

You my friend are a regular genius. Mr Tariq Aziz.

I'm no one information minister, I call it how I see it...U wanted DWill over Melo , no??..How is that looking by the way???

I did and I was WRONG!!!!!!!

See? If you had any BALLS you can admit when you are wrong as well.

You wrong???...Never...Never...Why how many times have I said you were wrong again, to have u rail against my comments??...Now u admit it..Man u are taking this maturity thing to heart...

English please?

Right...

Sorry your are right.

Felton is an incredible glue guy and despite him being a complete bonehead, I look forward to him leading this team to/in the playoffs.

Just to get it straight...Melo wasn't your choice, DWill was better, JR is a bonehead and is dumb, Felton is a bonehead, Chandler sucks and Asik good/better alternative...But you are here trying to do what really???...Argue why this team is good without the sum of it's parts???...

knickscity @ 12/29/2012 7:26 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...


I do think we are winning despite his play, although I wont say he hasn't helped the team win any games, because he has.

Hell Tyson at one point was feasting off felton misses, might as well been passes.

That is funny!


It's true and sad at the same time.

extremely sad for the most part.

We finally are in a position to win and we bring this idiot PG as our leader?


Really was not a better option. I do think we can win despite his poor play.
knickscity @ 12/29/2012 7:29 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knickscity wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:I love the dopes pointing to our record and trying to give Felton props because of it

were we not 18-6 finishing off last season with many TD and MB games?

Not sure about the Dopes part but yes very good point. As I've said all along Melo, Amare, Lin, Tyson, Kidd, Shump, JR, Camby, Rasheed, Cope is a hell of a team


No proof, we haven't seen that team before.

We saw 6-1 with Melo, Amare & Lin under Woodson. Something tells me the 18-6 record to end the year would not change much had Lin and Amare been healthy

We sure as hell wouldn't have gotten embarrassed by Miami in 5games


Too much hypothetical, no way to know for sure.

I could say had D'antoni been canned like he should have that one saturday night Woodson could have taken over sooner and maybe we dont see Miami at all in the first round.

mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:29 PM
I never said Asik was better than Tyson (reading comp failure again??) - please produce your evidence

I wanted DWil over Melo who seemed like the better player at that point - You only know this because I have no problem stating this (ahem)

JR is a bonehead who is now shooting well and will soon be bricking again and then shooting well again (and always taking dumb shots) - have fun with his 3-1x in the playoffs

Very sad attempt by you here. Predictable too.

gunsnewing @ 12/29/2012 7:30 PM
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...


I do think we are winning despite his play, although I wont say he hasn't helped the team win any games, because he has.

Hell Tyson at one point was feasting off felton misses, might as well been passes.

That is funny!


It's true and sad at the same time.

extremely sad for the most part.

We finally are in a position to win and we bring this idiot PG as our leader?


Really was not a better option. I do think we can win despite his poor play.

You think we can win when Kidd's back flares up again and Felton gets full reign at PG? Or do you think we will see the Charlotte, Denver & Portland Felton who shoots his team out of games? IMO right now Kidd has masked Felton's lack of efficiency and abilities as a PG

Felton will be here for the next 4yrs. Does Kidd play next year?

mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:31 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:I love the dopes the claim to play ball for 30 years like they the only one who have ball resume and still don't understand what they are seeing...

any idiot who thinks that Felton is a good pg obviously knows very little about basketball

ahem!

Any idiot who thinks Felton isn't key to whats happening here obviously knows very little about hoops...


I do think we are winning despite his play, although I wont say he hasn't helped the team win any games, because he has.

Hell Tyson at one point was feasting off felton misses, might as well been passes.

That is funny!


It's true and sad at the same time.

extremely sad for the most part.

We finally are in a position to win and we bring this idiot PG as our leader?


Really was not a better option. I do think we can win despite his poor play.

You think we can win when Kidd's back flares up again and Felton gets full reign at PG? Or do you think we will see the Charlotte, Denver & Portland Felton who shoots his team out of games? IMO right now Kidd has masked Felton's lack of efficiency and abilities as a PG

Felton will be here for the next 4yrs. Does Kidd play next year?

Efficiency? Whats that?

21-9

gunsnewing @ 12/29/2012 7:33 PM
again at the same time Felton is needed right now because Kidd is 40 and we don't have any other options or cap & roster flexibility to get better


but we did own Lin's rights

mrKnickShot @ 12/29/2012 7:34 PM
gunsnewing wrote:again at the same time Felton is needed right now because Kidd is 40 and we don't have any other options or cap & roster flexibility to get better


but we did own Lin's rights

Yes. and that is sad!

We "needed" bibby in the playoffs too.

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