Knicks · Carmelo wants no trades (page 4)

Dallas is going to have to sway him that money isn’t everything — Brooklyn has D-Will’s Bird rights and can offer one more year and larger raises than Dallas, which means about $26 million more guaranteed. That’s a lot of money. A whole lot. It matters more than birthday signs.

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

There are quite a few of us who hate what we did here. Those are 2 guys(Melo and Amar'e) you simply can't pay that kind of coin to.

Right. This hurts us more than giving up Gallo and Chandler

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

But can make u the most valuable franchise in the league...It's a business...Never forget that...They can now pay for the arena being rebuilt..Stock is tracking higher..Who doesn't have the foresight???...The fans...

Sunk Costs when profits/money made are getting ate up with....

Tax Payments

Paying employees when they aren't providing services for you

When you shrink your earning window

When you throw away assets without getting a return on it

When you lose in the first round every year

MSG makes money regardless if Melo walks through that door or not

3G4G wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

There are quite a few of us who hate what we did here. Those are 2 guys(Melo and Amar'e) you simply can't pay that kind of coin to.

Papabear Says

I bet if Melo and Amare could restructure thier contracts and Money they would for the good of the team but the NBA put rules in to stop that. Michael Vick just restructured his contract so he could stay in Philly. The NBA is hell bent on passing laws aimed to keep the Knicks down because if it was like baseball we would be champs.

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

But can make u the most valuable franchise in the league...It's a business...Never forget that...They can now pay for the arena being rebuilt..Stock is tracking higher..Who doesn't have the foresight???...The fans...

Sunk Costs when profits/money made are getting ate up with....

Tax Payments

Paying employees when they aren't providing services for you

When you shrink your earning window

When you throw away assets without getting a return on it

When you lose in the first round every year

MSG makes money regardless if Melo walks through that door or not

HUH????...The stock went from 18 to 50...Knicks made the most money in the league last year...Value of the franchise increased 43% over the last year..U don't try to make money because of taxes???..Some of the biggest Corps in the US pay very little taxes...Much as u try to mock him, Dolan is clearly winning...

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

But can make u the most valuable franchise in the league...It's a business...Never forget that...They can now pay for the arena being rebuilt..Stock is tracking higher..Who doesn't have the foresight???...The fans...

Sunk Costs when profits/money made are getting ate up with....

Tax Payments

Paying employees when they aren't providing services for you

When you shrink your earning window

When you throw away assets without getting a return on it

When you lose in the first round every year

MSG makes money regardless if Melo walks through that door or not

HUH????...The stock went from 18 to 50...Knicks made the most money in the league last year...Value of the franchise increased 43% over the last year..U don't try to make money because of taxes???..Some of the biggest Corps in the US pay very little taxes...Much as u try to mock him, Dolan is clearly winning...

Knicks franchise was on the rise of value irregardless of Melo(& Amar'e to a lesser extent) due to Stern and the NBA over inflating Franchise values. Matter of fact Dolan made money off his franchise value based on the impending Kings sale alone. Add in the recent renovations to MSG and the sell of the New Jersey Nets to Brooklyn.

If he's making all this mula then he should have paid Lin(wasn't he a stock cash cow), shouldn't have asked Donnie(remember he helped orchestrate getting Melo here) to take a 40% pay cut.... obviously he has concerns about money.

Probably hurts to see about $10mil on the bench/payroll this year alone doing jack squat for this franchise(Balkman(doesn't even exist), James White(oh wait he might make good on his salary if he wins the dunk out lol), Camby, Sheed, Thomas....Then he has to pay the league back in Tax Dollars that's probably another $10-20mil bill...and I bet he's still paying Larry Brown, D'AnToni, and possibly Isiah previous decade money.

Here we go again talking up Dolan's Billions until he has to match DAT Offer Sheet

Usually when players are traded from the Knicks I lose interest in them. Hearing Melo talking about trades just made me think about how good we could have been if he would have just waited 3 more months to sign with us. Gallo, Wilson Chandler, Amare,Melo, Felton and our draft picks. We would be a great teams with father time on our side. Now we are a good team but the oldest team ever. 2 of our old heads can't stay on the court and one can't play 30minutes without needing a wheelchair for the rest of the season. It makes me wonder about what could have been.

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

But can make u the most valuable franchise in the league...It's a business...Never forget that...They can now pay for the arena being rebuilt..Stock is tracking higher..Who doesn't have the foresight???...The fans...

Sunk Costs when profits/money made are getting ate up with....

Tax Payments

Paying employees when they aren't providing services for you

When you shrink your earning window

When you throw away assets without getting a return on it

When you lose in the first round every year

MSG makes money regardless if Melo walks through that door or not

HUH????...The stock went from 18 to 50...Knicks made the most money in the league last year...Value of the franchise increased 43% over the last year..U don't try to make money because of taxes???..Some of the biggest Corps in the US pay very little taxes...Much as u try to mock him, Dolan is clearly winning...

Knicks franchise was on the rise of value irregardless of Melo(& Amar'e to a lesser extent) due to Stern and the NBA over inflating Franchise values. Matter of fact Dolan made money off his franchise value based on the impending Kings sale alone. Add in the recent renovations to MSG and the sell of the New Jersey Nets to Brooklyn.

If he's making all this mula then he should have paid Lin(wasn't he a stock cash cow), shouldn't have asked Donnie(remember he helped orchestrate getting Melo here) to take a 40% pay cut.... obviously he has concerns about money.

Probably hurts to see about $10mil on the bench/payroll this year alone doing jack squat for this franchise(Balkman(doesn't even exist), James White(oh wait he might make good on his salary if he wins the dunk out lol), Camby, Sheed, Thomas....Then he has to pay the league back in Tax Dollars that's probably another $10-20mil bill...and I bet he's still paying Larry Brown, D'AnToni, and possibly Isiah previous decade money.

Here we go again talking up Dolan's Billions until he has to match DAT Offer Sheet

Lin again??..Dude wanted Houston..Dolan is the one with the billion in the bank...Not Lin..Dolan is losing sleep over Lin...

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

But can make u the most valuable franchise in the league...It's a business...Never forget that...They can now pay for the arena being rebuilt..Stock is tracking higher..Who doesn't have the foresight???...The fans...

Sunk Costs when profits/money made are getting ate up with....

Tax Payments

Paying employees when they aren't providing services for you

When you shrink your earning window

When you throw away assets without getting a return on it

When you lose in the first round every year

MSG makes money regardless if Melo walks through that door or not

HUH????...The stock went from 18 to 50...Knicks made the most money in the league last year...Value of the franchise increased 43% over the last year..U don't try to make money because of taxes???..Some of the biggest Corps in the US pay very little taxes...Much as u try to mock him, Dolan is clearly winning...

Knicks franchise was on the rise of value irregardless of Melo(& Amar'e to a lesser extent) due to Stern and the NBA over inflating Franchise values. Matter of fact Dolan made money off his franchise value based on the impending Kings sale alone. Add in the recent renovations to MSG and the sell of the New Jersey Nets to Brooklyn.

If he's making all this mula then he should have paid Lin(wasn't he a stock cash cow), shouldn't have asked Donnie(remember he helped orchestrate getting Melo here) to take a 40% pay cut.... obviously he has concerns about money.

Probably hurts to see about $10mil on the bench/payroll this year alone doing jack squat for this franchise(Balkman(doesn't even exist), James White(oh wait he might make good on his salary if he wins the dunk out lol), Camby, Sheed, Thomas....Then he has to pay the league back in Tax Dollars that's probably another $10-20mil bill...and I bet he's still paying Larry Brown, D'AnToni, and possibly Isiah previous decade money.

Here we go again talking up Dolan's Billions until he has to match DAT Offer Sheet

Lin again??..Dude wanted Houston..Dolan is the one with the billion in the bank...Not Lin..Dolan is losing sleep over Lin...

I guess 3G missed the Larry Coon chat yesterday when he said the Lakers will amnesty Metta's 7 mil next year to save 30 mil. Also, I don't think the Buss's or Laker organization is hurting for cash.

CrushAlot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:and Joe Johnson who got the richest contract in the league from Atlanta

Instead of blaming Melo blame the Knicks organization for not having the foresight to realize that paying 2 guys, not named Lebron, $20m per hurts your teams ability to build a true championship contender

But can make u the most valuable franchise in the league...It's a business...Never forget that...They can now pay for the arena being rebuilt..Stock is tracking higher..Who doesn't have the foresight???...The fans...

Sunk Costs when profits/money made are getting ate up with....

Tax Payments

Paying employees when they aren't providing services for you

When you shrink your earning window

When you throw away assets without getting a return on it

When you lose in the first round every year

MSG makes money regardless if Melo walks through that door or not

HUH????...The stock went from 18 to 50...Knicks made the most money in the league last year...Value of the franchise increased 43% over the last year..U don't try to make money because of taxes???..Some of the biggest Corps in the US pay very little taxes...Much as u try to mock him, Dolan is clearly winning...

Knicks franchise was on the rise of value irregardless of Melo(& Amar'e to a lesser extent) due to Stern and the NBA over inflating Franchise values. Matter of fact Dolan made money off his franchise value based on the impending Kings sale alone. Add in the recent renovations to MSG and the sell of the New Jersey Nets to Brooklyn.

If he's making all this mula then he should have paid Lin(wasn't he a stock cash cow), shouldn't have asked Donnie(remember he helped orchestrate getting Melo here) to take a 40% pay cut.... obviously he has concerns about money.

Probably hurts to see about $10mil on the bench/payroll this year alone doing jack squat for this franchise(Balkman(doesn't even exist), James White(oh wait he might make good on his salary if he wins the dunk out lol), Camby, Sheed, Thomas....Then he has to pay the league back in Tax Dollars that's probably another $10-20mil bill...and I bet he's still paying Larry Brown, D'AnToni, and possibly Isiah previous decade money.

Here we go again talking up Dolan's Billions until he has to match DAT Offer Sheet

Lin again??..Dude wanted Houston..Dolan is the one with the billion in the bank...Not Lin..Dolan is losing sleep over Lin...

I guess 3G missed the Larry Coon chat yesterday when he said the Lakers will amnesty Metta's 7 mil next year to save 30 mil. Also, I don't think the Buss's or Laker organization is hurting for cash.

At some point you can and should use kickbacks as this was afforded every team. Yet as the Lakers more than likely will Amnesty MWP, they'll be looking to pay Howard a whopping $120mil along with probably shelling out dough to Clark. I think Amnestying MWP has more to do with them feeling he's washed up, they would be correct in this assessment

We already traded away all our talented youth,(except for Lin. We just gave him away)for this dude, why stop now?