Amare > Novak defensively
Seems like a laughable joke of an article along with being a very weak source. But with all the said, Shumpert needs to prove he can at least stay healthy for 1 NBA season without needing surgery before talking about his contract status and/or current situation (2G vs. SF). And to be quite honest, Shumpert has not been very good (to say the least) since returning from injury. Which is expected. I don't believe Shumpert will have his full mental confidence and/or 100% in strength until sometime next season. For example, Derrick Rose has yet to return. Shumpert has no right to say anything other than trying to improve as a basketball player.
93BUICK wrote:misterearl wrote:ExactlyCashMoney wrote:Shump isn't going anywhere. Would love to see him at SG though....he's not a SF.
Felton
Shumpert
Novak (yeah, I said it)
Anthony
Chandler
That resonates- I see "D" from the guards- Spacing from Novak--Carmelo in prime flow- Shumpert or Felton free to drive- Carmelo left undoubled- Alley oops to Tyson-
The tought thing would be on the Defensive end against any team w any size- Novak hustles on D and is obedient but not really effective- that puts a lot more on Carmelo- Maybe he can handle it- Think so Mr Earl?
Absolutely 93B. Novak is still 6'10 and at least brings height. Think of him entering a game warm, instead of cold.
Novak takes the first shot of every game and sets the tone from outside. Carmelo can rest his shooting arm until the game is in the line, if needed. Play defense homey.
It's too perfect.
dk7th wrote:Cartman718 wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:if shumpert is unhappy with his role it's a red flag, an indication of a not-ideal locker room. it is not hard to imagine that this team is unraveling before our eyes."the ship be sinkin'"???
How long have you wanted to say that?
not long. but when a promising young player asks for a trade he is abandoning ship.
what does it say to you?
it says many things, but your pessimism clearly comes shining through. this is a joke of an article.
i see no reason for being optimistic. i haven't seen an ECF finalist in 35 games. that's the goal.
and you are basing this on a rumor or just using it as an excuse to repeat yourself?
Cartman718 wrote:dk7th wrote:Cartman718 wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:if shumpert is unhappy with his role it's a red flag, an indication of a not-ideal locker room. it is not hard to imagine that this team is unraveling before our eyes."the ship be sinkin'"???
How long have you wanted to say that?
not long. but when a promising young player asks for a trade he is abandoning ship.
what does it say to you?
it says many things, but your pessimism clearly comes shining through. this is a joke of an article.
i see no reason for being optimistic. i haven't seen an ECF finalist in 35 games. that's the goal.
and you are basing this on a rumor or just using it as an excuse to repeat yourself?
has it occurred to you that every post in this thread is based on the same rumor?
and yours is the only one drawing ship be sinking conclusion. i am done. thanks for playing.
if these shumps people want some deal, then let them have it, let's get back someone like reggie evans
He's young, hiding behind his injury. I like him but he has value and if the right move pops up I'd take it. His offensive game seems to be a bit limited and so far he hadn't been nearly the defender he was last year.
tj23 wrote:He's young, hiding behind his injury. I like him but he has value and if the right move pops up I'd take it. His offensive game seems to be a bit limited and so far he hadn't been nearly the defender he was last year.
Do you understand what an ACL tear is? Do you realise what the recovery process is?
CrushAlot wrote:"There are major concerns (from people close to Shumpert) over how the Knicks are developing him," a source from another team told SheridanHoops.com, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
"They feel he’s being played out of position (at small forward) and his confidence is suffering because of it. They understand the team is having success and it has to be the right deal, but they’d prefer Iman in another situation… And soon."
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/2...
The important bit is the bit in bold- obviously "the source from another team" is the GM wanting to trade for him, and is trying to put rumors out there that Shumpert wants to be traded to increase the chances the Knicks will do the deal. Likely his agent has been mouthing off. I know Shumpert isn't comfortable with his new role on offense, as he's said it a couple of times, but hopefully he realizes it's just temporary while he gets his athleticism back- hope his agent isn't trying to persuade him otherwise.
Really???...Three pages on hearsay ..Shrump has shown he wants nothing else but to be here..Come on guys...Shrump will be needed to cover Wade, Joe Johnson, Paul George, Jrue, and whoever in the playoffs...Stand down!!!!
I don't get why we just don't start Felton/Shump/Brewer/Anthony/Chandler. We don't need Brewer to shoot but we need his D and scrapiness. Then Shump goes back to his natural position. Shump is a special player, I would hate to see him go.
3G4G wrote:CrushAlot wrote:"There are major concerns (from people close to Shumpert) over how the Knicks are developing him," a source from another team told SheridanHoops.com, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
"They feel he’s being played out of position (at small forward) and his confidence is suffering because of it. They understand the team is having success and it has to be the right deal, but they’d prefer Iman in another situation… And soon."
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/2...
Well DUH like I told gunsewing he's never going to properly develop here when you have BLACK HOLES such as Melo/Amar'e/Earl....I don't blame him for wanting to spread his wings grass is greener on the other side desire, if true. Nor does he want to probably be pigeoned hole as some "do the dirty work" player... be only a lock down defender.
He may see himself more along the lines of a Luol Deng type with possibly more athleticism full recovery from ACL injury.
He will never be Luol Deng talent on this team with the Motley Crue of Stooges we have here.
Once again we're in WIN NOW MODE.....Goodbye Shump....Grunny Get It Dunny Sunny!!!!!
ROFL.....
shump/ lin was the backcourt I envisioned for years to come.. a healing from the wound of that unfortunate trade we made with denver.. now shump wants out. well if true, not surprised at all.....
jaydh wrote:I don't get why we just don't start Felton/Shump/Brewer/Anthony/Chandler. We don't need Brewer to shoot but we need his D and scrapiness. Then Shump goes back to his natural position. Shump is a special player, I would hate to see him go.
I think Amare comes back to the starting line up and Shrump moves to the 2..I think that's always been the plan but the NY media likes drama..
I wonder how many on here will still say how Shumpert was a better pick than Faried
Just sayin
Shump was/is just another player/YUTE overrated by this fan base
Excellent defender (at least he was and will hopefully he will regain) / horrible offender
mrKnickShot wrote:I wonder how many on here will still say how Shumpert was a better pick than FariedJust sayin
Shump was/is just another player/YUTE overrated by this fan base
Excellent defender (at least he was and will hopefully he will regain) / horrible offender
+1
mrKnickShot wrote:I wonder how many on here will still say how Shumpert was a better pick than FariedJust sayin
Shump was/is just another player/YUTE overrated by this fan base
Excellent defender (at least he was and will hopefully he will regain) / horrible offender
You realize you can win any draft with the benefit of hindsight?
smackeddog wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I wonder how many on here will still say how Shumpert was a better pick than FariedJust sayin
Shump was/is just another player/YUTE overrated by this fan base
Excellent defender (at least he was and will hopefully he will regain) / horrible offender
You realize you can win any draft with the benefit of hindsight?
Of course
There was a hindsight discussion about who was the better pick and who do you think many of the yute lovers chose?
However, there were some clear minds who knew how silly that view was/is.
mrKnickShot wrote:I wonder how many on here will still say how Shumpert was a better pick than FariedJust sayin
Shump was/is just another player/YUTE overrated by this fan base
Excellent defender (at least he was and will hopefully he will regain) / horrible offender
I'd have at least 100 million dollars if i could play my powerball numbers after they are announced.
holfresh wrote:jaydh wrote:I don't get why we just don't start Felton/Shump/Brewer/Anthony/Chandler. We don't need Brewer to shoot but we need his D and scrapiness. Then Shump goes back to his natural position. Shump is a special player, I would hate to see him go.
I think Amare comes back to the starting line up and Shrump moves to the 2..I think that's always been the plan but the NY media likes drama..
This x 100000000
You don't keep $100mil on the bench
gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:jaydh wrote:I don't get why we just don't start Felton/Shump/Brewer/Anthony/Chandler. We don't need Brewer to shoot but we need his D and scrapiness. Then Shump goes back to his natural position. Shump is a special player, I would hate to see him go.
I think Amare comes back to the starting line up and Shrump moves to the 2..I think that's always been the plan but the NY media likes drama..
This x 100000000
You don't keep $100mil on the bench
you do when key players don't mesh and the result is subtraction by addition. this has been the issue since february 2011.... the knicks have deep, perhaps even systemic, issues no matter what they try and do.
