Knicks · Amare & Melo Not Co-Existing is a Big Pile of Steaming Turd (page 5)

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:Its just hard to build a team around Carmelo Anthony. How do u find the perfect niche forward to go along with him. U need a Forward thats quick enough to guard SF's and tall and strong enough to guard Bigger PF's and he has to hit 20 foot jump shots, good luck finding that. Wallace in his prime would of been a great fit probably why the Knicks played well when he was in the line up

I agree but Jared Dudley, Wilson Chandler, Marvin Williams, Channing Frye, AK47 among others are all attainable combo forwards that fit the bill in most ways. Not saying they all fit perfect, but these complimentary players are out there and can be had.

Wilson would be perfect here.

tkf wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:Cash, if you like Melo your accused of being a homer. If you say something positive about the team your considered a homer and will have someone come and rebut your post. Its has become a lose, lose situation and I for one have been visiting here less because of it. Everything has become a tug of war, going from entertaining banter to out right virtual fights up in here. Really crazy for a Knicks Forum.

I don't remember such a player in Knick history that has divided the fan base so much. Obviously, it has a lot to do with how he was acquired. If Dolan let Donnie manage the team then I think Melo would have been seen in a better light with all Knick fans.

I have been a homer since I can remember but the last couple of year of mismanagement has taken out a lot of the luster. From Spree to KVH to DLee to Gallo to Lin. It was a slow march but when I got there I was numb.

I still want the Knicks to win but if they get tossed in the 1st round then they need to blow this up quick. The fastest way to blow it up is by lighting the biggest keg and that is Melo.

bingo... THis is exactly how I feel, especially the part in bold.. All of this has allowed me to step back and look at this team a bit more objectively, and honestly it has been the best thing for me, when it comes to rooting for this organization....

The fastest way to blow it up is by lighting the biggest keg and that is Melo.

For me, that would be move number one!!! start there and work your way throughout the whole organization.. top to bottom... even change out the ball boys....

I can really see how this could have played out.

You are very extreme, so, you started out NY Mental and now, you are TKF

Hey. To each their own.

arkrud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:Cash, if you like Melo your accused of being a homer. If you say something positive about the team your considered a homer and will have someone come and rebut your post. Its has become a lose, lose situation and I for one have been visiting here less because of it. Everything has become a tug of war, going from entertaining banter to out right virtual fights up in here. Really crazy for a Knicks Forum.

The reason I joined this forum was that it seemed to be a great place for die hard fans who knew their basketball. Lately not so much. IMHO, it's turned into a Rockets/Nuggets forum where any joy derived from a W or supporting your players is seen as being a homer. We have 30 games left on the season and people are already talking about how we're going to lose in the 1st round and how the team should be blown up. Sad when this is the best team we've had since the 90's.

No doubt that the team has been struggling over our last 30 but the season is not over and the second season (playoffs) haven't started but the season is over? The Rockets are 4 games over .500 and yet they're on the right track. The Nuggets are a terrible road team but the a force to be reckoned with? I don't get it.

Here's all you need to know to live and get by in the new "UK":
1) Melo is sheehit. Pure and simple. Accept that "fact", forget the facts, and move on. Spend a little time in the mirror trying to instantly free associate any facial blemishes with "the trade".
2) Gallo, Wilson and Moz and Cap Space were the future. Bright, happy, ebullient. It's all gone because of #1. It will never come back before prostate pain sets in. Ponder it over and over until you can spout the exact salary impacts of Denver's draft picks/trade moves from memory. Houston's too. Think about OKC. Force yourself to equate an erection with the sound of "Durant"
3) Youth is all there is. Despite Boston, Dallas and SanTone, this is a young mans game. Always will be. This is another "fact".
4) Dolan is the tick feeding on #1. He will be the other cause of any of your facial blemishes, tics and personal hygeine problems.
5) The past cannot be forgotten. Misery is to be revisited and discussed endlessly, like poking fresh puzzy.
6) Any Knick win can be explained by the following:
----------> poor competition
----------> good competition with bad road record
----------> good competition bothered by hurricanes, horrible deaths, other current events
----------> competition playing too many games
----------> competition has injury problems
----------> poor ref performance
----------> actually should have been a loss, due to:
------------------> poor defensive effort
------------------> not winning by acceptable margin
------------------> not putting team away soon enough
------------------> not getting competition to forfeit by the 2 minute mark of the second quarter
------------------> relying too heavily on:
-------------------------> StarMooby and his idiotic, 3rd century shot selection/skill set
-------------------------> making three point shots
-------------------------> mimicing MDA when it's clearly not allowed
-------------------------> not moving the ball enough
-------------------------> too many hockey assists

This should keep you happy and posting for years to come!

NBA has 6-8 solid teams... all the rest is a chaotic garbage including Knicks.
They can win/lose for whatever reason and be +5/-5 at the end of the season which means nothing but 1st round exit.
What makes this 6-8 teams are:
1. Smart ownersheep
2. Good GM
3. Solig coach
4. Balanced roster
5. Star palyers
6. Scouting/draft
7. Young players development

We have #5 and this about it. So what do you want this team to achieve?

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!

All the numbers so many "real Fans" like point to Amar'e and Melo not co-existing together. However, numbers show that if you throw Tyson in with the two this season they work extremely well. Now that Kmart is here I look forward not seeing Amar'e and Melo always paired with a big.

By the way numbers showed they worked very well the first year too without Tyson.

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:Its just hard to build a team around Carmelo Anthony. How do u find the perfect niche forward to go along with him. U need a Forward thats quick enough to guard SF's and tall and strong enough to guard Bigger PF's and he has to hit 20 foot jump shots, good luck finding that. Wallace in his prime would of been a great fit probably why the Knicks played well when he was in the line up

I agree but Jared Dudley, Wilson Chandler, Marvin Williams, Channing Frye, AK47 among others are all attainable combo forwards that fit the bill in most ways. Not saying they all fit perfect, but these complimentary players are out there and can be had.

Wilson would be perfect here.

Wilson Chandler would make enjoy his seat next to Camby on of ALWAYS injured list.

Martin posted an good blog on the home page and is a good read. Im not sure it holds up as a bonafide "NYKMentality" justification deposition but its statistically backed up and reasonably written.

Ling: http://theknickswall.com/2013/02/28/chec...