Q: Why oh why did Lin sign with another team?
A: Money.
A: Yao.
A: No Melo in Houston.
Q: Does it really matter anymore?
A: No
mrKnickShot wrote:smackeddog wrote:Wow- I wasn't aware of this Jeremy Lin character, until I read his name in the first post. Apparently he used to play for the Knicks and there was some sort of controversy when the Knicks didn't match his contract offer. Does anyone have any more info about this?
He went to Harvard
I think there was also a movie made about him, I forgot what it was called. Anybody knows?
KnicksFE wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:smackeddog wrote:Wow- I wasn't aware of this Jeremy Lin character, until I read his name in the first post. Apparently he used to play for the Knicks and there was some sort of controversy when the Knicks didn't match his contract offer. Does anyone have any more info about this?
He went to Harvard
I think there was also a movie made about him, I forgot what it was called. Anybody knows?
Jesus and David take Thailand
It was rated best of breed for indy films! Hot chicks were in it, too!
The talking pop up book was much better though, IMO.
KnicksFE wrote:Osiris wrote:tkf wrote:Osiris wrote:tkf wrote:Syniko wrote:He is better than Felton/old Kidd put together. He is actually a force to be reckoned with out there in Houston. Lin/Harden = best backcourt in the NBA.Imagine if Lin were still with us? Lin loves New York. He loves the Knicks. Imagine Lin and Carmelo together just tearing it up night after night.
Carmelo didn't want to share his toys with lin.... he felt it was "ridiculous" that lin was offered that kind of money... so there you go...
Melo is just as good if not better than Darant. The one thing that holds him back is when he goes into crybaby mode. That throws his whole game off. The great players use adversity to their advantage. I think about AI. For better or worse that guy thought the whole world was out to get him. George Karl channeled that to make AI the fiercest competitor in league history. I'm gonna stop the thread derailment but I just had to say that.
You can stop right there.... absolutely not..
The one thing that holds him back is when he goes into crybaby mode. That throws his whole game off.
you are not accurately and HONESTLY assessing his game...
Its just my opinion but 99% of what holds Melo back is mental. All the talent is there. When Melo is on his game the combo of outside shooting and drives to the basket make him one of the leagues best if not unstoppable.Once again I know people have different views on the subject but this is my opinion.
While I respect your opinion, I believe you are wayyyyy off, think about this, Durant at 24 years old has already established himself at the 2nd best player in the NBA today, Melo at 28 still having maturity issues sometimes.
Obviously the mental part of the game is what separate the truly great players from the all-stars, and is not as easy to overcome, the player must be a TRUE STUDENT of the game, talent is not enough.
I have to admit I have never seen a star be thrown of his game so easy before. Him waiting for KG told the league all they need to know about getting in his head.
Osiris wrote:KnicksFE wrote:Osiris wrote:tkf wrote:Osiris wrote:tkf wrote:Syniko wrote:He is better than Felton/old Kidd put together. He is actually a force to be reckoned with out there in Houston. Lin/Harden = best backcourt in the NBA.Imagine if Lin were still with us? Lin loves New York. He loves the Knicks. Imagine Lin and Carmelo together just tearing it up night after night.
Carmelo didn't want to share his toys with lin.... he felt it was "ridiculous" that lin was offered that kind of money... so there you go...
Melo is just as good if not better than Darant. The one thing that holds him back is when he goes into crybaby mode. That throws his whole game off. The great players use adversity to their advantage. I think about AI. For better or worse that guy thought the whole world was out to get him. George Karl channeled that to make AI the fiercest competitor in league history. I'm gonna stop the thread derailment but I just had to say that.
You can stop right there.... absolutely not..
The one thing that holds him back is when he goes into crybaby mode. That throws his whole game off.
you are not accurately and HONESTLY assessing his game...
Its just my opinion but 99% of what holds Melo back is mental. All the talent is there. When Melo is on his game the combo of outside shooting and drives to the basket make him one of the leagues best if not unstoppable.Once again I know people have different views on the subject but this is my opinion.
While I respect your opinion, I believe you are wayyyyy off, think about this, Durant at 24 years old has already established himself at the 2nd best player in the NBA today, Melo at 28 still having maturity issues sometimes.
Obviously the mental part of the game is what separate the truly great players from the all-stars, and is not as easy to overcome, the player must be a TRUE STUDENT of the game, talent is not enough.
I have to admit I have never seen a star be thrown of his game so easy before. Him waiting for KG told the league all they need to know about getting in his head.
its always something isnt it?
The only thing that's amusing about the situation is the following. The Knicks and owner felt betrayed. This is the same owner that put the worst product in the league out there in the biggest city of the world, betraying his fans for years with the highest pricest in the league. He allowed Isiah to cost him close to 150MM in revenues and was upset he was going to have to pay 15MM in luxury tax for one season to someone that energized the fan pace, brings new markets and additional money and visibility to the team. He paid Larry Brown what to go away? Eddy Curry to not play, Jerome James?
So at the end of the day are you fucking joking? This is the same piece of trash that said Marv Albert wanted to much money and he was unwilling to pay. Come on!
We have no guards on this team, it's the biggest area of weakness. You need as much talent as possible in this city. The kid had something, Felton does not, Kidd is past his prime and JR is mentally imbalanced. So we don't have the luxury of ever improving till tyson and amare's contract run out and by that time Melo is on the downside of his career.
MS wrote:The only thing that's amusing about the situation is the following. The Knicks and owner felt betrayed. This is the same owner that put the worst product in the league out there in the biggest city of the world, betraying his fans for years with the highest pricest in the league. He allowed Isiah to cost him close to 150MM in revenues and was upset he was going to have to pay 15MM in luxury tax for one season to someone that energized the fan pace, brings new markets and additional money and visibility to the team. He paid Larry Brown what to go away? Eddy Curry to not play, Jerome James?
So at the end of the day are you fucking joking? This is the same piece of trash that said Marv Albert wanted to much money and he was unwilling to pay. Come on!We have no guards on this team, it's the biggest area of weakness. You need as much talent as possible in this city. The kid had something, Felton does not, Kidd is past his prime and JR is mentally imbalanced. So we don't have the luxury of ever improving till tyson and amare's contract run out and by that time Melo is on the downside of his career.
there is no way around it. No matter how you swing it basketball and the KNicks came second after whatever MSG agendas existed.
OR
They just didnt think he was worth the cash.
Either way (as usual) king James is wrong and is a donkee
fishmike wrote:MS wrote:The only thing that's amusing about the situation is the following. The Knicks and owner felt betrayed. This is the same owner that put the worst product in the league out there in the biggest city of the world, betraying his fans for years with the highest pricest in the league. He allowed Isiah to cost him close to 150MM in revenues and was upset he was going to have to pay 15MM in luxury tax for one season to someone that energized the fan pace, brings new markets and additional money and visibility to the team. He paid Larry Brown what to go away? Eddy Curry to not play, Jerome James?
So at the end of the day are you fucking joking? This is the same piece of trash that said Marv Albert wanted to much money and he was unwilling to pay. Come on!We have no guards on this team, it's the biggest area of weakness. You need as much talent as possible in this city. The kid had something, Felton does not, Kidd is past his prime and JR is mentally imbalanced. So we don't have the luxury of ever improving till tyson and amare's contract run out and by that time Melo is on the downside of his career.
there is no way around it. No matter how you swing it basketball and the KNicks came second after whatever MSG agendas existed. OR
They just didnt think he was worth the cash.
Either way (as usual) king James is wrong and is a donkee
That's okay be a robot/programmed and bleed blue & orange till you expire.....
mrKnickShot wrote:smackeddog wrote:Wow- I wasn't aware of this Jeremy Lin character, until I read his name in the first post. Apparently he used to play for the Knicks and there was some sort of controversy when the Knicks didn't match his contract offer. Does anyone have any more info about this?
He went to Harvard
Was Jeremy Lin the white dude who wore jean shorts?
Osiris wrote:tkf wrote:Osiris wrote:tkf wrote:Syniko wrote:He is better than Felton/old Kidd put together. He is actually a force to be reckoned with out there in Houston. Lin/Harden = best backcourt in the NBA.Imagine if Lin were still with us? Lin loves New York. He loves the Knicks. Imagine Lin and Carmelo together just tearing it up night after night.
Carmelo didn't want to share his toys with lin.... he felt it was "ridiculous" that lin was offered that kind of money... so there you go...
Melo is just as good if not better than Darant. The one thing that holds him back is when he goes into crybaby mode. That throws his whole game off. The great players use adversity to their advantage. I think about AI. For better or worse that guy thought the whole world was out to get him. George Karl channeled that to make AI the fiercest competitor in league history. I'm gonna stop the thread derailment but I just had to say that.
You can stop right there.... absolutely not..
The one thing that holds him back is when he goes into crybaby mode. That throws his whole game off.
you are not accurately and HONESTLY assessing his game...
Its just my opinion but 99% of what holds Melo back is mental. All the talent is there. When Melo is on his game the combo of outside shooting and drives to the basket make him one of the leagues best if not unstoppable.Once again I know people have different views on the subject but this is my opinion.
I understand, I respect your opinion, but I just don't agree.. carmelo isn't as diverse offensively as some want to believe.. take a look at Dwayne wade, this guy can score the ball in as many ways as i have seen any player do.. what I see in carmelo is a guy who can hit the jumper, or drive, but don't you see how often he is getting his shot blocked when he drives? When I look at guys like durant, wade, kobe, I see guys who can score easily, with little effort.. It seems carmelo has to work super hard to score.
with that said, You are entitled to your opinion.. and again, I respect that..
MS wrote:The only thing that's amusing about the situation is the following. The Knicks and owner felt betrayed. This is the same owner that put the worst product in the league out there in the biggest city of the world, betraying his fans for years with the highest pricest in the league. He allowed Isiah to cost him close to 150MM in revenues and was upset he was going to have to pay 15MM in luxury tax for one season to someone that energized the fan pace, brings new markets and additional money and visibility to the team. He paid Larry Brown what to go away? Eddy Curry to not play, Jerome James?
So at the end of the day are you fucking joking? This is the same piece of trash that said Marv Albert wanted to much money and he was unwilling to pay. Come on!We have no guards on this team, it's the biggest area of weakness. You need as much talent as possible in this city. The kid had something, Felton does not, Kidd is past his prime and JR is mentally imbalanced. So we don't have the luxury of ever improving till tyson and amare's contract run out and by that time Melo is on the downside of his career.
pretty much.... plus the knicks never offered lin a contract.. they told him to go and get an offer and they would match pretty much? I mean what was lin supposed to do? tell the rockets not to offer him a poison pill contract so he can use them to get a decent deal out of the knicks?
Lin was better as a Knick - His Defensive Rating was 101 as a Knicks and it's 107 as a Rocket
Felton is even worse as a Knick as his Defensive Rating is 109.
Lins is better offensively too. Lin 105 to Felton 102.
This is all according to NBA Reference.
nixluva wrote:Lin was better as a Knick - His Defensive Rating was 101 as a Knicks and it's 107 as a Rocket
Felton is even worse as a Knick as his Defensive Rating is 109.
Lins is better offensively too. Lin 105 to Felton 102.
This is all according to NBA Reference.
You are crazy Felton is an allstar!!!
Ridiculousness
tkf wrote:Syniko wrote:He is better than Felton/old Kidd put together. He is actually a force to be reckoned with out there in Houston. Lin/Harden = best backcourt in the NBA.Imagine if Lin were still with us? Lin loves New York. He loves the Knicks. Imagine Lin and Carmelo together just tearing it up night after night.
Carmelo didn't want to share his toys with lin.... he felt it was "ridiculous" that lin was offered that kind of money... so there you go...
tkf - for the record, Steve Novakmalso commented that Houston's contract offer to "you know who" was "ridiculous"
Care to comment on how much Novak resented Lin?
misterearl wrote:Ridiculousnesstkf wrote:Syniko wrote:He is better than Felton/old Kidd put together. He is actually a force to be reckoned with out there in Houston. Lin/Harden = best backcourt in the NBA.Imagine if Lin were still with us? Lin loves New York. He loves the Knicks. Imagine Lin and Carmelo together just tearing it up night after night.
Carmelo didn't want to share his toys with lin.... he felt it was "ridiculous" that lin was offered that kind of money... so there you go...
tkf - for the record, Steve Novakmalso commented that Houston's contract offer to "you know who" was "ridiculous"
Care to comment on how much Novak resented Lin?
Everyone needs a boogeyman as the reason for their ills...Enter Melo..If wasn't for that guy we would be Denver and Houston combined...
Why is everybody hung up on 12 points and 6 assists a game. Jeremy Lin isn't the reason the Knicks are struggling right now. I wish the dude well, but geez.
geez, each time the knicks lose were gonna bring up Linsanity. LOL. let it go man
It seems like every time Lin cracks twenty points a thread like this starts. The last time you did this Syniko you said that Lin would have signed for anything to stay in NY because he loved the city so much. Not sure why this is coming up again but Lin got a lot of money to play in Houston and his contract was structured so that it would be nearly impossible for the Knicks to match it in the new cba. In addition the guy fired his agent and went with a high powered firm and sat out of the USA Select Team workouts because of his upcoming free agency. When asked about resigning with the Knicks Lin's new agent said, I don't know enough about the situation yet to comment. Doesn't sound like a guy representing someone who's heart is set on staying in NY.
