Knicks · Game Thread: Knicks Pistons Motor City Mayhem, Amar'e for 50! 7:30 PM (ET), March 6 (page 2)

gunsnewing @ 3/6/2013 2:16 PM
He always says that to the media than melo misses a few games. He should not play tonight. Play tomorrow if he can. We need him healthy for okc. Id say rest him for okc too but the lineup Woodson is going to trot out WILL get us killed tomorrow
NYDiva @ 3/6/2013 2:25 PM
That starting lineup would have trouble beating a D-League team. 80-year-old KT and James White? The fuckery?

FTLOG, start AMAR'E!

nixluva @ 3/6/2013 5:04 PM
I'm still lost as to why Woody has soured on Cope. He's not that bad of a player. If White can play surely Cope has done far more to deserve some run. Cope actually produced when he got minutes. White has never done ANYTHING!!!!
playa2 @ 3/6/2013 5:27 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm still lost as to why Woody has soured on Cope. He's not that bad of a player. If White can play surely Cope has done far more to deserve some run. Cope actually produced when he got minutes. White has never done ANYTHING!!!!

James white could be a yes man, and Copeland a ok I'll try man. Woody wants his non stars to be Yes men. Really simple, even thought White will play well in a motion offense watch and see if Melo doesn't lace'em up tonight.

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2013 5:40 PM
playa2 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm still lost as to why Woody has soured on Cope. He's not that bad of a player. If White can play surely Cope has done far more to deserve some run. Cope actually produced when he got minutes. White has never done ANYTHING!!!!

James white could be a yes man, and Copeland a ok I'll try man. Woody wants his non stars to be Yes men. Really simple, even thought White will play well in a motion offense watch and see if Melo doesn't lace'em up tonight.

I think Woodson sees Cope as a rookie and treats him like that. The guy is the same age as Felton I believe but it is his first year.
GustavBahler @ 3/6/2013 6:06 PM
Hope Melo will take the night off if he's still hurting. In other news I thought this was a classy move by Dolan.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-d...

Three years ago, we relayed a story about 10-year NBA veteran Ray Williams, who had fallen prey to a series of financial blows and was then destitute while living in Florida. Things turned up for Williams later in the year, he was given a job in his hometown of Mt. Vernon, New York, but recently Williams has been in ill-health.

The New York Knicks – the team that drafted him, and the franchise he was starred for – have stepped to the plate. Owner James Dolan, rightfully reviled in many areas as he runs MSG’s many tentacles, is making sure the former Knicks has all the care he needs as he deals with an unspecified illness. From Frank Isola at the New York Daily News:

The ailing former Knicks guard, who has fallen on hard times, was transported by the Knicks last week from Florida to New York to receive treatment at Memorial Sloan-Kettering in Manhattan for an undisclosed illness. Madison Square Garden Chairman James Dolan paid for the medical plane that allowed Williams, 58, to receive world-class care and to be near his mother.

As the Daily News first reported in 2011, doctors affiliated with a New Jersey medical group that offers health care to indigent athletes discovered a large tumor in Williams’ colon following a routine colonoscopy.

Williams was the first NBA retiree to take advantage of a free colon-cancer screening offered through the NBA Retired Players Association and Pain Alternatives, Solutions and Treatment.

Williams last played in the NBA in 1987. He enjoyed two stints with the Knicks, averaging over 20 points and six assists from 1978 to 1982, and finished his career with averages of 15.5 points, 5.8 assists and 1.8 steals per game in just 28 minutes a contest.

The former point guard, who claims that neither drugs nor alcohol had any influence on his spate of bad financial luck, shuttled between New York and Florida following his retirement, and for years lived in his pickup truck as he moved between odd jobs.

Dolan, as owner with the Knicks, has always been generous with his money. Still, the MSG chairman has received quite a bit of criticism over the years for his obsession with Basketball Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, entrusting the former Knicks coach and GM with a series of disastrous personnel moves, while creating an executive atmosphere that led to one noted sexual harassment suit from a former employee. Most recently, Dolan has taken flack for possibly letting personal politics get in the way of matching a contract offer for guard Jeremy Lin. He is possibly the most reviled owner in New York’s history, and that’s saying something considering the Mets’ foibles, and the eras when CBS owned the New York Yankees and Gulf and Western owned the Knicks.

He’s making the right move here, though. Taking care of a player his ownership regime wasn’t tied to, someone who gets the short shrift when Knick teams of the early 1980s are discussed – in favor of Sugar Ray Richardson, Bill Cartwright, and Bernard King.

As Frank Isola noted in his report, the “Once a Knick, Always a Knick” motto stitched into each Knick jersey seems to be taking precedent here.

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2013 6:16 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Hope Melo will take the night off if he's still hurting. In other news I thought this was a classy move by Dolan.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-d...

Three years ago, we relayed a story about 10-year NBA veteran Ray Williams, who had fallen prey to a series of financial blows and was then destitute while living in Florida. Things turned up for Williams later in the year, he was given a job in his hometown of Mt. Vernon, New York, but recently Williams has been in ill-health.

The New York Knicks – the team that drafted him, and the franchise he was starred for – have stepped to the plate. Owner James Dolan, rightfully reviled in many areas as he runs MSG’s many tentacles, is making sure the former Knicks has all the care he needs as he deals with an unspecified illness. From Frank Isola at the New York Daily News:

The ailing former Knicks guard, who has fallen on hard times, was transported by the Knicks last week from Florida to New York to receive treatment at Memorial Sloan-Kettering in Manhattan for an undisclosed illness. Madison Square Garden Chairman James Dolan paid for the medical plane that allowed Williams, 58, to receive world-class care and to be near his mother.

As the Daily News first reported in 2011, doctors affiliated with a New Jersey medical group that offers health care to indigent athletes discovered a large tumor in Williams’ colon following a routine colonoscopy.

Williams was the first NBA retiree to take advantage of a free colon-cancer screening offered through the NBA Retired Players Association and Pain Alternatives, Solutions and Treatment.

Williams last played in the NBA in 1987. He enjoyed two stints with the Knicks, averaging over 20 points and six assists from 1978 to 1982, and finished his career with averages of 15.5 points, 5.8 assists and 1.8 steals per game in just 28 minutes a contest.

The former point guard, who claims that neither drugs nor alcohol had any influence on his spate of bad financial luck, shuttled between New York and Florida following his retirement, and for years lived in his pickup truck as he moved between odd jobs.

Dolan, as owner with the Knicks, has always been generous with his money. Still, the MSG chairman has received quite a bit of criticism over the years for his obsession with Basketball Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, entrusting the former Knicks coach and GM with a series of disastrous personnel moves, while creating an executive atmosphere that led to one noted sexual harassment suit from a former employee. Most recently, Dolan has taken flack for possibly letting personal politics get in the way of matching a contract offer for guard Jeremy Lin. He is possibly the most reviled owner in New York’s history, and that’s saying something considering the Mets’ foibles, and the eras when CBS owned the New York Yankees and Gulf and Western owned the Knicks.

He’s making the right move here, though. Taking care of a player his ownership regime wasn’t tied to, someone who gets the short shrift when Knick teams of the early 1980s are discussed – in favor of Sugar Ray Richardson, Bill Cartwright, and Bernard King.

As Frank Isola noted in his report, the “Once a Knick, Always a Knick” motto stitched into each Knick jersey seems to be taking precedent here.

Nice article thanks for sharing.
GustavBahler @ 3/6/2013 6:34 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Nice article thanks for sharing.

NP. Glad Dolan is doing the right thing. Hope Ray gets better soon.

CrushAlot @ 3/6/2013 7:03 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Nice article thanks for sharing.

NP. Glad Dolan is doing the right thing. Hope Ray gets better soon.

Yeah I remember hearing about his troubles a year or so ago. Hope he gets healthy and back on track.
CrushAlot @ 3/6/2013 7:32 PM
Beck reporting Thomas is starting in place of melo.
Mray20 @ 3/6/2013 7:39 PM
White & Thomas over Amare, I don't get it as hard as I try, There's no advantage doing this, Woodson has lost his mind.
playa2 @ 3/6/2013 7:41 PM
What to look for tonight, watch how confident role players are tonight when they are allowed to be apart of the offense specifically, Prigioni , White and Copeland if he plays. The ball movement is what brings out the best in these 3 players, not sit in the corner and wait for the ball to come to them.
ScoreBot @ 3/6/2013 7:45 PM
1st Qtr 9:41
DET 5 NYK 6
misterearl @ 3/6/2013 7:45 PM
Wild and Crazy Woody

Mray20 wrote:White & Thomas over Amare, I don't get it as hard as I try, There's no advantage doing this, Woodson has lost his mind.

Yeah right.

Starting Kurt is a nice way to recognize a trusted vet.

Uptown @ 3/6/2013 7:46 PM
We lose 29pts from the starting line up and we add Thomas and White? SMH
Uptown @ 3/6/2013 7:49 PM
6 turnovers in the first 6 mins....Come on guys wake up!!!!
ScoreBot @ 3/6/2013 7:50 PM
1st Qtr 6:16
DET 10 NYK 12
NYDiva @ 3/6/2013 7:51 PM
Awesome. Another turnover.
playa2 @ 3/6/2013 7:52 PM
Prigioni will run this offense tonight better than Felton just watch and see.

It's like Felton has been drinking "RedBull" tonight...slowdown

loweyecue @ 3/6/2013 7:52 PM
I can't believe people are trying to spin this and defend Woody. What a complete effing idiot.
I think plays is right, the guy will play his favorites and yes-men without regard to what it does to the team. You start your 5 best players, this isn't rocket science. But then again Woodson isn't exactly what you call above average intelligence.
MSG3 @ 3/6/2013 7:52 PM
I like the thought process with this passing....but wtf. Take care of the ball.
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