Alright, down by 7 at the half is exactly where we want them. Just need to hang on and make a run in the end.
misterearl wrote:Double Standard CheckGodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
It's kind of funny. I love JR but he basically came out and said he didn't think Lin deserved that ridiculous contract he got. Well..JR is the man now playing with a bunch of bench guys. Why is there no JR smith explosive winning streak?Perhaps the key was Jared Jefferies
It's kind of funny. I love Steve Novak but he also came out and said Lin's contract was ridiculous. Well... Novak is now playing with a bunch of bench guys. Why are there no more discount double checks?
The point wasn't really to call out Smith for commenting on another man's money. It was more to ask a question. Smith is definitely more athletic than Lin is. He has a better handle. He has a better shot.
If Linsanity was as simple as a case of someone stepping up simply due to there being a vacum of talent due to injuries,why aren't we seeing something like that now?
misterearl wrote:Double Standard CheckGodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
It's kind of funny. I love JR but he basically came out and said he didn't think Lin deserved that ridiculous contract he got. Well..JR is the man now playing with a bunch of bench guys. Why is there no JR smith explosive winning streak?Perhaps the key was Jared Jefferies
It's kind of funny. I love Steve Novak but he also came out and said Lin's contract was ridiculous. Well... Novak is now playing with a bunch of bench guys. Why are there no more discount double checks?
Differnce being Novak said the structure was ridiculas, but the value was deserved.
Travla wrote:Knicks offense is too simple and without a lot of motion, teams know the Knicks will eventually go to the 3 ball just enough to shoot themselves out of the game.....3 to 4 guys near or outside of the 3 point line most possessions just doesn't cut it.
It works when running a PnR with a grat PG. Not when doing ISO's
Really?
Andrew wrote:Differnce being Novak said the structure was ridiculas, but the value was deserved.
Novak and Carmelo's comments were identical. I-dentical.
Jeremy Lin is gone and the legend still lives on. Long before he delivers a championship to Houston.
IronWillGiroud wrote:i wonder why cliff paul is never at clippers games, why does chris paul not invite him
We should sign Cliff Paul for a 10-day contract.
Andrew wrote:misterearl wrote:Double Standard CheckGodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
It's kind of funny. I love JR but he basically came out and said he didn't think Lin deserved that ridiculous contract he got. Well..JR is the man now playing with a bunch of bench guys. Why is there no JR smith explosive winning streak?Perhaps the key was Jared Jefferies
It's kind of funny. I love Steve Novak but he also came out and said Lin's contract was ridiculous. Well... Novak is now playing with a bunch of bench guys. Why are there no more discount double checks?
Differnce being Novak said the structure was ridiculas, but the value was deserved.
I think we can all agree the structure itself was ridiculous. It was designed by Morey to be ridiculous, knowing the Knicks luxury tax situation. Same with Asik and the Bulls.
At worst Lin is slightly overpaid at $8M a year but I suppose you're overpaying 1) for the potential and 2) Restricted FAs tend to get overpaid to prevent matching.
But yeah I really was curious as to why something like Linsanity doesn't just happen every single time a team is wracked by injuries if it's really just a matter of most NBA players being able to step up if just given the minutes/shots/ball.
It would seem that playmaking is actually a skill no?
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Does it say anything about our highly paid stars that we go down by 10-20 points to inferior teams and then hang tough with the clippers without them?Perhaps the Clippers were expecting an easy win?
Thats the idea
Bill Simmons just said we look like a lottery team right now. There is no team in the NBA that could play great basketball without its 3 best players...What a moron. Just trying to shit on the knicks like the little annoying celtics imp he is.
misterearl wrote:Really?Andrew wrote:Differnce being Novak said the structure was ridiculas, but the value was deserved.
Novak and Carmelo's comments were identical. I-dentical.
Jeremy Lin is gone and the legend still lives on. Long before he delivers a championship to Houston.
Ok, so melo said this?
http://theknicksblog.com/text/novak-agrees-houstons-contract-offer-to-lin-was-ridiculous/
“It can be looked at as a ridiculous contract in the sense that it’s a $5 [million], a $5 [million] and a $15 [million over the first three years],” Novak told SNY.tv Wednesday at the Steve Novak Basketball Camp at Sleepy Hollow High School.“It is kind of ridiculous in terms of the structure. I don’t think in terms of Jeremy’s value that it’s ridiculous. I think everybody knows that. He’s very valuable….I wasn’t there when Carmelo said it but ‘ridiculous contract,’ I think probably means more the fact that there’s a max offer being offered in the third year when the first two was a five.”
When Melo is out, we just don't have a reliable #2 scorer. Stat we knew might not be around with those knees and he wasn't a starter anyway. But look at us out there, who is the scorer? Copeland? We are shooting 30% or so!
Looking at the roster, it amazes me we are considered, or were considered, a championship team. We are Melo and role players.
We really need a reliable #2 scorer.
earthmansurfer wrote:When Melo is out, we just don't have a reliable #2 scorer. Stat we knew might not be around with those knees and he wasn't a starter anyway. But look at us out there, who is the scorer? Copeland? We are shooting 30% or so!
Looking at the roster, it amazes me we are considered, or were considered, a championship team. We are Melo and role players.
We really need a reliable #2 scorer.
I was just thinking the same thing. Its like they put the team together thinking there was zero chance Melo would miss some time.
misterearl wrote:Really?Andrew wrote:Differnce being Novak said the structure was ridiculas, but the value was deserved.
Novak and Carmelo's comments were identical. I-dentical.
Jeremy Lin is gone and the legend still lives on. Long before he delivers a championship to Houston.
ok. It is very much possible that Melo, JR, and Novak were all referring to the contract structure.
C Paul said it at the half, they are playing at the Knicks pace so I'm sure they will pick it up in the 2nd half. Knicks have to get to the rim more and keep the pace slow.
Everyone's offensive game seems to have vanished- Felton, Cope, Novak and JR are all better than what they've shown us these past few weeks. Bah!
Uh-oh, looks like it's Lebron circle jerk time on ESPN halftime show.
earthmansurfer wrote:When Melo is out, we just don't have a reliable #2 scorer. Stat we knew might not be around with those knees and he wasn't a starter anyway. But look at us out there, who is the scorer? Copeland? We are shooting 30% or so!
Looking at the roster, it amazes me we are considered, or were considered, a championship team. We are Melo and role players.
We really need a reliable #2 scorer.
If Chandler learns one post move it would help in that department.
Andrew wrote:misterearl wrote:Really?Andrew wrote:Differnce being Novak said the structure was ridiculas, but the value was deserved.
Novak and Carmelo's comments were identical. I-dentical.
Jeremy Lin is gone and the legend still lives on. Long before he delivers a championship to Houston.
Ok, so melo said this?
http://theknicksblog.com/text/novak-agrees-houstons-contract-offer-to-lin-was-ridiculous/
“It can be looked at as a ridiculous contract in the sense that it’s a $5 [million], a $5 [million] and a $15 [million over the first three years],” Novak told SNY.tv Wednesday at the Steve Novak Basketball Camp at Sleepy Hollow High School.“It is kind of ridiculous in terms of the structure. I don’t think in terms of Jeremy’s value that it’s ridiculous. I think everybody knows that. He’s very valuable….I wasn’t there when Carmelo said it but ‘ridiculous contract,’ I think probably means more the fact that there’s a max offer being offered in the third year when the first two was a five.”
Could just be that Melo meant the same thing. He's just not as articulate and aware of the fact that his comments could be misinterpreted.
Asked if Lin's contract could cause a challenging dynamic with his teammates, Smith agreed.
"Without a doubt," he said. "I think some guys take it personal, because they've been doing it longer and haven't received any reward for it yet. I think it's a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys."
Who do you think "some guys" were?
TeamBall wrote:Has Pablo played at all?
Naw. Seems like Woody is still playing with his rotation.
I kinda feel bad because he's had to deal with Wallace being here then not. Working Shump, STAT, Camby in. Now dealing with injuries.
And Felton getting hurt as well.