Knicks · My Biggest fear in Playing the Heat in the playoffs is---- (page 2)

K22 @ 4/1/2013 9:48 AM
Isn't this Stern's last year?

What better way to send him off than for him to hand the trophy over to Little Jimmy?

smackeddog @ 4/1/2013 10:38 AM
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:Fear This....Stern is Lathered Up.....already

THAT WAs absolutely shameful!!!

It was, plus the way the commentators completely go along with it like there's nothing wrong with any of the calls. That's why I think the Lakers are more likely to make it to the playoffs than Dallas or the Jazz- I just think if there are any close games, the ref's will try and get the Lakers the win.

playa2 @ 4/1/2013 10:44 AM
Nalod wrote:Donaghy is pure crap convict.

I don't doubt the league's refs are pure as virgins but the excerpts don't back up any of his facts and its easy to in hindsight recreate a scenario.

They guy needed to write a book and this man has no cred EVEN IF HIS STORIES ARE LEGIT!

Bottom line is the league, like all leagues in prosports will maintain some competitive balance and the defending champs usually get better calls, just like the defending champs before them, and the ones before them! Its part of overcoming!

Lebron lost two finals prior, if the league really wanted him as champ could they not have figured it out?

Jordan got looked at by any player he went to the line. Did it help? Of course, and thats why you have to be even that much better to beat the champs!

Nalod You sound like a league executive or something.LOL

Whenever there is some sort of cheating you better believe there will NEVER be just one person involved, but surely there will always be a fall guy.

From Pat Ewing frozen draft card to Stern hating Mark Cuban in their 1st championship appearance against the Heat.


playa2 @ 4/1/2013 10:49 AM
NBA employees & executives and sports media outlets like ESPN TNT etc.. have financial interest in dismissing the idea of rigged games, so the issue is downplayed and often uncomfortably AVOIDED ! HEAR THAT NALOD ?
smackeddog @ 4/1/2013 10:58 AM
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Donaghy is pure crap convict.

I don't doubt the league's refs are pure as virgins but the excerpts don't back up any of his facts and its easy to in hindsight recreate a scenario.

They guy needed to write a book and this man has no cred EVEN IF HIS STORIES ARE LEGIT!

Bottom line is the league, like all leagues in prosports will maintain some competitive balance and the defending champs usually get better calls, just like the defending champs before them, and the ones before them! Its part of overcoming!

Lebron lost two finals prior, if the league really wanted him as champ could they not have figured it out?

Jordan got looked at by any player he went to the line. Did it help? Of course, and thats why you have to be even that much better to beat the champs!

Nalod You sound like a league executive or something.LOL

Whenever there is some sort of cheating you better believe there will NEVER be just one person involved, but surely there will always be a fall guy.

From Pat Ewing frozen draft card to Stern hating Mark Cuban in their 1st championship appearance against the Heat.


For me, I have no idea whether Doherty was lying or not, but putting that aside, if you watched that lakers/Kings 2002 playoff series (and I remember I was rooting for the Kings), I don't see how anyone could deny the game is rigged:

My favorite bit is when Kobe blatantly punches Bibby RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REF and nothing happens!

playa2 @ 4/1/2013 11:07 AM
Anybody who argues that the Association isn't rigged is probably still a fan of the WWE -WWF
Nalod @ 4/1/2013 11:12 AM
playa2 wrote:NBA employees & executives and sports media outlets like ESPN TNT etc.. have financial interest in dismissing the idea of rigged games, so the issue is downplayed and often uncomfortably AVOIDED ! HEAR THAT NALOD ?

That game was phuched up and Yeah I think the league wanted the Lakers in to boast ratings.

I think it happens.

Donaghy does not mention any source other than what he and another ref would have said to him, and he is a convicted felon.

Playa, you are a conspiracy junkie so you don't have any cred with me on this issue.

Lets be clear, when you find out who benefits then you have a reason. Knicks could have helped the league plenty of times but did not get help. Certainly not after the game when JVG sneaker surfed on Alonzo's foot!

I think stars get better treatment. Its been that way for generations so Lebron, or Jordan, or anyone before gets it. They protect stars and promote them.

3G4G @ 4/1/2013 11:18 AM
To Stern openly routing for A.I. and the Sixers against the Bucks sitting close to Ray Allen's mom...She said he was cheering when A.I. would make plays against them during the series....


Stern has been a disgrace for an eternity it seems like. lol @ Stu Lantz during those situations at the end of that game....


It was also Stern's way of saying to Sacramento.....


"I'm screwing you again because you won't even exist as a franchise anymore and/or because your city is making the selling of this franchise miserable for me as I try to bring in more irresponsible and reckless ownership!"
Lakers FTW!!!!!!


Seriously I don't see how any soul (man or animal) can like Stern


Feb 2014 can't come soon enough


AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!!

Nalod @ 4/1/2013 11:53 AM
3G4G wrote:To Stern openly routing for A.I. and the Sixers against the Bucks sitting close to Ray Allen's mom...She said he was cheering when A.I. would make plays against them during the series....


Stern has been a disgrace for an eternity it seems like. lol @ Stu Lantz during those situations at the end of that game....


It was also Stern's way of saying to Sacramento.....


"I'm screwing you again because you won't even exist as a franchise anymore and/or because your city is making the selling of this franchise miserable for me as I try to bring more irresponsible and reckless ownership!"
Lakers FTW!!!!!!


Seriously I don't see how any soul (man or animal) can like Stern


Feb 2014 can't come soon enough


AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!!


Question for all:

Who has been the best commish for the major sports over the last 30 years?

They all get booed don't they?

Shyts been crooked for over 100 years!

If Sac was making big $, then who gets screwed?

Remember, the fan will always get screwed!

skeng @ 4/1/2013 12:17 PM
all these videos are so depressing... can't some of these guys say anything after they retire??
SupremeCommander @ 4/1/2013 12:23 PM
honestly, if the Knicks put them into a position where they need to get calls, they already have lost. The Heat have two HOFers and possibly the best supporting cast since Walton was on the Celtics. Their only flaw is their length and I like what Melo, Chandler, and Martin bring to the table. If they aren't crashing the lane it will be a very short series
playa2 @ 4/1/2013 12:31 PM
skeng wrote:all these videos are so depressing... can't some of these guys say anything after they retire??

Not if their contract says otherwise.

playa2 @ 4/1/2013 12:35 PM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:NBA employees & executives and sports media outlets like ESPN TNT etc.. have financial interest in dismissing the idea of rigged games, so the issue is downplayed and often uncomfortably AVOIDED ! HEAR THAT NALOD ?

That game was phuched up and Yeah I think the league wanted the Lakers in to boast ratings.

I think it happens.

Donaghy does not mention any source other than what he and another ref would have said to him, and he is a convicted felon.

Playa, you are a conspiracy junkie so you don't have any cred with me on this issue.

Lets be clear, when you find out who benefits then you have a reason. Knicks could have helped the league plenty of times but did not get help. Certainly not after the game when JVG sneaker surfed on Alonzo's foot!

I think stars get better treatment. Its been that way for generations so Lebron, or Jordan, or anyone before gets it. They protect stars and promote them.

Nalod my friend, that was so weak , you can't slither your way out of this one.

NBA players in the video told you to your face also Phil Jackson who was fined 25,000.

How about Mark Cuban fined 250,000,000 for telling stern to his face the game is rigged.

Also ya boy Jeff Vandummy fined 100,000 for giving info on what an official told him about his star player.

You might be slick, but you can't trick Playa on this one son.

3G4G @ 4/1/2013 12:40 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:honestly, if the Knicks put them into a position where they need to get calls, they already have lost. The Heat have two HOFers and possibly the best supporting cast since Walton was on the Celtics. Their only flaw is their length and I like what Melo, Chandler, and Martin bring to the table. If they aren't crashing the lane it will be a very short series

I've said this on several occasions this year...."you are not beating the Heat if the game is within a couple possessions"..... whether they are down or up. It won't matter.

You literally have to blow them out(we have during the regular season...playoffs different story though) and wish the best for whatever team can accomplish this 4 games out of 7.

playa2 @ 4/1/2013 12:51 PM
R.Wallace, Penny Hardaway, Chris Webber all make comments in the clip about it being rigged, who needs cred Nalod!
Nalod @ 4/1/2013 1:04 PM
playa2 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:NBA employees & executives and sports media outlets like ESPN TNT etc.. have financial interest in dismissing the idea of rigged games, so the issue is downplayed and often uncomfortably AVOIDED ! HEAR THAT NALOD ?

That game was phuched up and Yeah I think the league wanted the Lakers in to boast ratings.I think it happens.

Donaghy does not mention any source other than what he and another ref would have said to him, and he is a convicted felon.

Playa, you are a conspiracy junkie so you don't have any cred with me on this issue.

Lets be clear, when you find out who benefits then you have a reason. Knicks could have helped the league plenty of times but did not get help. Certainly not after the game when JVG sneaker surfed on Alonzo's foot!

I think stars get better treatment. Its been that way for generations so Lebron, or Jordan, or anyone before gets it. They protect stars and promote them.

Nalod my friend, that was so weak , you can't slither your way out of this one.

NBA players in the video told you to your face also Phil Jackson who was fined 25,000.

How about Mark Cuban fined 250,000,000 for telling stern to his face the game is rigged.

Also ya boy Jeff Vandummy fined 100,000 for giving info on what an official told him about his star player.

You might be slick, but you can't trick Playa on this one son.

Playa, YOu been accused of not reading before.

Your not reading again.

Sports is corrupted and has been for 100 years. But not because Donaghy said so.


playa2 @ 4/1/2013 2:32 PM
Your a shill Nalod, you flip flop like a politician , you twist more than Chubby Checker, what's your motivation ? LOL
Nalod @ 4/2/2013 1:55 PM
playa2 wrote:Your a shill Nalod, you flip flop like a politician , you twist more than Chubby Checker, what's your motivation ? LOL

If you really want to get into name calling we can go there.

But your own words paint your portrait well enough to see.

Lets talk "flip flop" and understand that Nalod don't have to take a stance on everything.

For example I don't believe Dounaghy as credible but do believe the league has pushed some teams over others. How they do it I don't know. I don't think they get caught either.

And its not just the NBA, its the way of the world. Boxing was always very clear, if you want to win you gotta beat the champ good. A split decision will go the way of the champ.

Its not 100%, if a team is just that good they will prevail. Ewings knicks were at times better than Bulls but were not good enough to deliver a knock out punch. Jordan want to the line and Charles Smith got Mugged.

Im not the guy taking paranoid ranting about Sandy Hook and asking the moronic conspiracy questions. Sometimes there are plausible reasons.

Nalod believes money corupts but nobody going to go after the NBA for a few games.

Nalod believes we put a man on the moon.

Nalod believes there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy because:

The military infrastructure was too large to and our economy was not equiped to shift so fast.
Kennedy Had STD and brain was rotting.
He let Russians get to far. Cuban Crisis never should have escaladed to that point.
Who did it? Who the Phuch cares?

Nalod can't wrap my head around a conspiracy around 9/11. Nalod believes the plain over Penn. was shot down because it was a threat but can understand why we would do it. I can get that we put something into the pentegan for effect, but can't wrap that we'd make disappear the plane and its passangers.

Nalod believes we blew up our own ship in the Gulf of Tonkin and in Havana to escalate a war we wanted. Pearl Harbor was a suprise not for vengence but Japan was suffering from an embargo that was hurting their expansion into china. We sold it to the People to raise anger and sell a war there and in europe were England was going to lose and our "lend lease" program to help them would go unpaid. We entered teh war to get repaid, and reshape the ecnomomics of a post war world in our favor. We had only hoped Hitler would have done more damage to soviet russia before we got in.

Follow the money.

Refs can encourange an outcome but not always change it.

Mray20 @ 4/2/2013 3:52 PM
Dallas was able to beat Miami in 2011 because of 2 things, they took Lebron out of his game and they hit their 3 pointers, the Knicks must get good looks & hit their open 3 pointers vs the Heat to stand a chance, that is also how they were able to destroy them down in Miami without Melo
playa2 @ 4/2/2013 3:56 PM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:Your a shill Nalod, you flip flop like a politician , you twist more than Chubby Checker, what's your motivation ? LOL

If you really want to get into name calling we can go there.

But your own words paint your portrait well enough to see.

Lets talk "flip flop" and understand that Nalod don't have to take a stance on everything.

For example I don't believe Dounaghy as credible but do believe the league has pushed some teams over others. How they do it I don't know. I don't think they get caught either.

And its not just the NBA, its the way of the world. Boxing was always very clear, if you want to win you gotta beat the champ good. A split decision will go the way of the champ.

Its not 100%, if a team is just that good they will prevail. Ewings knicks were at times better than Bulls but were not good enough to deliver a knock out punch. Jordan want to the line and Charles Smith got Mugged.

Im not the guy taking paranoid ranting about Sandy Hook and asking the moronic conspiracy questions. Sometimes there are plausible reasons.

Nalod believes money corupts but nobody going to go after the NBA for a few games.

Nalod believes we put a man on the moon.

Nalod believes there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy because:

The military infrastructure was too large to and our economy was not equiped to shift so fast.
Kennedy Had STD and brain was rotting.
He let Russians get to far. Cuban Crisis never should have escaladed to that point.
Who did it? Who the Phuch cares?

Nalod can't wrap my head around a conspiracy around 9/11. Nalod believes the plain over Penn. was shot down because it was a threat but can understand why we would do it. I can get that we put something into the pentegan for effect, but can't wrap that we'd make disappear the plane and its passangers.

Nalod believes we blew up our own ship in the Gulf of Tonkin and in Havana to escalate a war we wanted. Pearl Harbor was a suprise not for vengence but Japan was suffering from an embargo that was hurting their expansion into china. We sold it to the People to raise anger and sell a war there and in europe were England was going to lose and our "lend lease" program to help them would go unpaid. We entered teh war to get repaid, and reshape the ecnomomics of a post war world in our favor. We had only hoped Hitler would have done more damage to soviet russia before we got in.

Follow the money.

Refs can encourange an outcome but not always change it.

My man Nalod gotta give you props

dimicech @ 4/3/2013 11:16 AM
Kevin Durant-696 FTA
Harden- 710 FTA
Kobe-563
Westbrook-528
Lebron- 511

Melo-465

honestly thought lebrons number would be a bit higher
but seriously? i feel like at least 2-3 times a game Melos headband is pulled down over his eyes and hes checking his mouth for blood and theres no foul call

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