Knicks · GAME THREAD: KNICKS @THUNDER 1PM ABC (page 11)

ramtour420 wrote:

RonRon wrote:those fouls on Iman were BS calls

While Copeland is showing us that he can play the stretch 5 role as a skilled F/C
Forget what he cannot to on DEF, he is trying, his ability to be a offensive threat like when Kmart was playing the 5 opens things up for the entire lineup
Having 5 threats (even some minimum) vs playing with 1 that is not even a threat (Chandler) is signifigant
on top of it, Chandler's DEF has been horrible this year, he hasn't been moving his feet, just like how Westbrook was able to blow by him at the free throw line (pure laziness giving him a lane to drive)

He is a Center, out on the perimeter, on a switch. Against freakin Westbrick. What do you think is gonna happen lol

he could have close him out at the free throw line, but he did not close that gap by moving his feet
His DEF has been very inconsistent the entire year
That is why the Knick's had been a much better defensive team with Kmart at C than Chandler

GustavBahler wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

RonRon wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Playing well tofday as well. Copeland and Prigs are both key to our continued success, Copeland is doing areally good job at the 5 especially for a backup SF.

agreed + 10000

Pablo need's skilled players that MOVE WELL WITHOUT THE BALL, a reason why Kmart was so successful when was Chandler out
Copeland thrives playing the stretch 4/5 role while being a focal point of the offense and not just a spot up shooter, he makes good decisions

Yes the two of them seem to be very much on the same page. Prigioni is a very good point guard, and I am glad Woody has finally figured it out.

I'm impressed with how well they worked together this half. Before shooting 3s, Copeland dished it to Novak a couple of times, made an effort to get him going and it paid off. At the start of the season Cope wouldn't have done that. Could be the makings of a good tandem. Might be what Novak needs to get going, someone he can count on to get him the ball. Copeland is having a hell of an all around game as well.

RonRon wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

RonRon wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Playing well tofday as well. Copeland and Prigs are both key to our continued success, Copeland is doing areally good job at the 5 especially for a backup SF.

agreed + 10000

Pablo need's skilled players that MOVE WELL WITHOUT THE BALL, a reason why Kmart was so successful when was Chandler out
Copeland thrives playing the stretch 4/5 role while being a focal point of the offense and not just a spot up shooter, he makes good decisions

Yes the two of them seem to be very much on the same page. Prigioni is a very good point guard, and I am glad Woody has finally figured it out.

He is our only REAL PG that has the ability to facilitate, even though he barely can penetrate or defend the position
His ability to LEAD our team with good shot attempts changes the dynamic of our team
However, he needs players that play smart and attack the defense together NOT ISO HEAVY

Will we find a way to keep

JR
Martin
Copeland

they are all capable and deserve more than what we can offer, hope Grunweld pulls of his magic
And Woodson needs to continue to build Cope's confidence for the play offs, and ride this rook, as he can do things that the veterans cannot, SCORE

I would get rid of Camby/Kurt etc to keep those three if possible. I don't think we can keep JR - because he will def get good money. I do hope Woody keeps playing Cope during the playoffs. Like u said he solves our etrenal quest for a third scorer and he has been doing it whenever given an opportunity. I actually like him at the stretch 5.

GustavBahler wrote:I'm impressed with how well Novak and Copeland worked together this half. Before shooting 3s, Copeland dished it to Novak a couple of times, made an effort to get him going and it paid off. At the start of the season Cope wouldn't have done that. Could be the makings of a good tandem. Might be what Novak needs to get going, someone he can count on to get him the ball. Copeland is having a hell of an all around game as well.

Agreed, Novak and Copeland didn't work together in the start of the season because they were both playing the F positions without a mobile C
But putting Copeland at C changes everything up, while both were used to spread the floor at the F positions together
Their lack of speed and ability to defend at the F spot is unable to make up for

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

RonRon wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Playing well tofday as well. Copeland and Prigs are both key to our continued success, Copeland is doing areally good job at the 5 especially for a backup SF.

agreed + 10000

Pablo need's skilled players that MOVE WELL WITHOUT THE BALL, a reason why Kmart was so successful when was Chandler out
Copeland thrives playing the stretch 4/5 role while being a focal point of the offense and not just a spot up shooter, he makes good decisions

Yes the two of them seem to be very much on the same page. Prigioni is a very good point guard, and I am glad Woody has finally figured it out.

I'm impressed with how well they worked together this half. Before shooting 3s, Copeland dished it to Novak a couple of times, made an effort to get him going and it paid off. At the start of the season Cope wouldn't have done that. Could be the makings of a good tandem. Might be what Novak needs to get going, someone he can count on to get him the ball. Copeland is having a hell of an all around game as well.

I don't think I noticed how good a passer Cope is until Hubie pointed it out. Love Hubie and love that he said he would have gotten a tech on that second phantom foul on Shump.

I edited out the quotes because I thought the bold said Novak and Copeland FYI. I agree, Copeland does pass well, didn't expect it.

loweyecue wrote:IF when Sheed/KMart are healthy Woody should look to cut down on Chandler's minutes and still keep Copeland in the mix. We NEED the offense this kid provides and he is TRYING to play defense.

TeamBall wrote:I dont like Wilbon

Bulls fan. And Simmons is an unabashed C's fan. Not crazy about either of them.

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Uptown wrote:Somehow, someway Cope has to be a part of the rotation from here on out. Even in the playoffs....enough of the DNP's....

Agreed. He helps with some of the scoring when Melo sits.

He is really trying on d. Hopefully Woodson notices. Novak is a weapon but Cope has a lot more dimensions to his game.

holfresh wrote:Lots of Knick fans jump ship early in the season...My boys are balling...

I'll be the first to admit I didn't watch every game, but that's kind of hard for me since my timezone is GMT+1.
So far this season I have probably missed from 10 to 15 games tops, winning or losing it didn't matter, although ofcourse when the Knicks are playing like this it's that much sweeter

Liking the way the bench is stepping up, too.

Give us another solid half of this intensity on both ends of the floor, and we'll leave OKC with a W.

GO KNICKS!!!

3rd Qtr 9:55
OKC 61 NYK 69

TeamBall wrote:

NYDiva wrote:I like OKC. They're probably my second favorite team in the NBA. But I would hate them if the Knicks had to play them on a regular basis. The calls would drive me to drink.

How do you watch them? I'll admit I've only seen their national televised games but it seems like its Durants/Westbrook and freethrows for them all game.

Between ESPN/TNT/ABC/NBATV, they're on quite a bit.

I liked them much more last year when Harden was there, but they're fun to watch in general. As Hubie just said, they want to run and score easy baskets in transition. But, yeah, they do get A LOT of calls, especially Durant.

3rd Qtr 8:29
OKC 65 NYK 73