Knicks · GAME THREAD: KNICKS @BULLS 8PM TNT (page 18)

Knicksfan @ 4/12/2013 1:04 AM
Knicksfan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
K22 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I know I root for the Knicks but it really seems like they get robbed on calls in every game. Melo especially.

Wait till the playoffs.

Game 1 last year against the Heat was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen.

Ohh my I remember that!! I know fans feel weak when they use the "refs against us" card but sometimes it really seems they have an agenda.

I couldn't help but Youtube search about this and found this little piece of gold.

No matter how good the Heat are supposed to be as a team and no matter how great LeBron may be, I simply cannot respect them. That championship is as tainted as their flops.

3G4G @ 4/12/2013 1:40 AM
LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?
Red1976 @ 4/12/2013 5:17 AM
mad that we lost the game against the Bulls, even more because it is the Bulls but the Knicks played hard and very shorthanded (more so than the Bulls if some will say that this is an excuse) and just fall short, so i can be proud of the team, can't win every time ... getting healthy is the keyword for a nice playoffs run ...
gunsnewing @ 4/12/2013 8:10 AM
Whats goin on with Felton?
dk7th @ 4/12/2013 8:28 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him.

13-34 is terrible considering he only scored 36 points.

LOL at JR Smith taking 27 shots to score 28 points. .

Oh well on to the next.

i did not see the game except for two minutes but this statement is sheer nonsense.

judging from the box score i can see that the bulls' defense was such that it forced a chuckage and suckage from anthony and smith. felton took too many shots too.

the main takeaway from the advanced statistics is that the bulls succeeded in stifling the knicks' ball movement. you can tell from the ratio of usage to assist rate. melo's was a ridiculous reversion to "bad melo" where the ratio is 39.3:8.8 which reduces to 4.47:1 and that's with an abominable 46.9TS%. this means he did not move the ball and was forced into taking too many shots, bad shots.

you can't win ballgames against good defenses unless you stay disciplined and keep the ball moving ahead of the defenders.

tkf mentioned that the thing that concerns him most about the knicks is that the celtics have one thing the knicks don't: POISE.

at this point it is folly to claim that "the knicks are heavily reliant on melo" since it is clear that he actually brings this situation on himself. bryant has manifested the same tendencies against good defenses plenty of times.

NYKBocker @ 4/12/2013 8:33 AM
Watched a good amount of the game and this is my impression. Chicago is a bad matchup for the Knicks. They have too many long very good defenders that affect Melo. Next time they play, ball movement needs to happen. The second Melo gets double teamed he needs to swing it out and the open man needs to hit that shot. Felton also needs to play under control. He does not do well when he pushes.
AnubisADL @ 4/12/2013 9:28 AM
dk7th wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him.

13-34 is terrible considering he only scored 36 points.

LOL at JR Smith taking 27 shots to score 28 points. .

Oh well on to the next.

i did not see the game except for two minutes but this statement is sheer nonsense.

judging from the box score i can see that the bulls' defense was such that it forced a chuckage and suckage from anthony and smith. felton took too many shots too.

the main takeaway from the advanced statistics is that the bulls succeeded in stifling the knicks' ball movement. you can tell from the ratio of usage to assist rate. melo's was a ridiculous reversion to "bad melo" where the ratio is 39.3:8.8 which reduces to 4.47:1 and that's with an abominable 46.9TS%. this means he did not move the ball and was forced into taking too many shots, bad shots.

you can't win ballgames against good defenses unless you stay disciplined and keep the ball moving ahead of the defenders.

tkf mentioned that the thing that concerns him most about the knicks is that the celtics have one thing the knicks don't: POISE.

at this point it is folly to claim that "the knicks are heavily reliant on melo" since it is clear that he actually brings this situation on himself. bryant has manifested the same tendencies against good defenses plenty of times.

LOL. Why bother posting?

Dude you never post after a win. Coincidence? I think not.

Smith and Melo played like trash and the game was STILL winnable. Spare me your "analysis".

Uptown @ 4/12/2013 9:38 AM
dk7th wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him.

13-34 is terrible considering he only scored 36 points.

LOL at JR Smith taking 27 shots to score 28 points. .

Oh well on to the next.

i did not see the game except for two minutes but this statement is sheer nonsense.

judging from the box score i can see that the bulls' defense was such that it forced a chuckage and suckage from anthony and smith. felton took too many shots too.

the main takeaway from the advanced statistics is that the bulls succeeded in stifling the knicks' ball movement. you can tell from the ratio of usage to assist rate. melo's was a ridiculous reversion to "bad melo" where the ratio is 39.3:8.8 which reduces to 4.47:1 and that's with an abominable 46.9TS%. this means he did not move the ball and was forced into taking too many shots, bad shots.

you can't win ballgames against good defenses unless you stay disciplined and keep the ball moving ahead of the defenders.

tkf mentioned that the thing that concerns him most about the knicks is that the celtics have one thing the knicks don't: POISE.

at this point it is folly to claim that "the knicks are heavily reliant on melo" since it is clear that he actually brings this situation on himself. bryant has manifested the same tendencies against good defenses plenty of times.

Dude, you didnt watch the game (which seems like the norm for you as you only seem to watch the Numbers Matrix style) so why bother with an analysis?

TeamBall @ 4/12/2013 9:39 AM
dk7th wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him.

13-34 is terrible considering he only scored 36 points.

LOL at JR Smith taking 27 shots to score 28 points. .

Oh well on to the next.

i did not see the game except for two minutes but this statement is sheer nonsense.

judging from the box score i can see that the bulls' defense was such that it forced a chuckage and suckage from anthony and smith. felton took too many shots too.

the main takeaway from the advanced statistics is that the bulls succeeded in stifling the knicks' ball movement. you can tell from the ratio of usage to assist rate. melo's was a ridiculous reversion to "bad melo" where the ratio is 39.3:8.8 which reduces to 4.47:1 and that's with an abominable 46.9TS%. this means he did not move the ball and was forced into taking too many shots, bad shots.

you can't win ballgames against good defenses unless you stay disciplined and keep the ball moving ahead of the defenders.

tkf mentioned that the thing that concerns him most about the knicks is that the celtics have one thing the knicks don't: POISE.

at this point it is folly to claim that "the knicks are heavily reliant on melo" since it is clear that he actually brings this situation on himself. bryant has manifested the same tendencies against good defenses plenty of times.


Whether Melo brought the situation upon himself or not, that doesnt change the fact that they are still reliant on him.
Uptown @ 4/12/2013 9:40 AM
NYDiva wrote:I want to know how OKC would do if they lost Ibaka, Perkins, and every single member of their frontline.

They could not beat us at home AT FULL STRENGTH.

To pretend not having a frontline doesn't matter is ridiculous.

Good point. Our lack of height allowed Butler to have a career night since 6'4 Kidd was trying to guard him in the post...

NYKBocker @ 4/12/2013 10:01 AM
Uptown wrote:
NYDiva wrote:I want to know how OKC would do if they lost Ibaka, Perkins, and every single member of their frontline.

They could not beat us at home AT FULL STRENGTH.

To pretend not having a frontline doesn't matter is ridiculous.

Good point. Our lack of height allowed Butler to have a career night since 6'4 Kidd was trying to guard him in the post...

This is all on Grunny.

gunsnewing @ 4/12/2013 10:17 AM
We have height the problem is they are all injured. Good young players dont come cheap. No guarantee that going with the young dleagye big will be better than going with the savy vets. Heck they might not even see playing time
tkf @ 4/12/2013 10:35 AM
3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?

ROFL!!!

tkf @ 4/12/2013 10:42 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

dk7th @ 4/12/2013 10:43 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
dk7th wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Easy to explain the loss. Knicks are HEAVILY reliant on Melo for scoring. The other guys feed off him.

13-34 is terrible considering he only scored 36 points.

LOL at JR Smith taking 27 shots to score 28 points. .

Oh well on to the next.

i did not see the game except for two minutes but this statement is sheer nonsense.

judging from the box score i can see that the bulls' defense was such that it forced a chuckage and suckage from anthony and smith. felton took too many shots too.

the main takeaway from the advanced statistics is that the bulls succeeded in stifling the knicks' ball movement. you can tell from the ratio of usage to assist rate. melo's was a ridiculous reversion to "bad melo" where the ratio is 39.3:8.8 which reduces to 4.47:1 and that's with an abominable 46.9TS%. this means he did not move the ball and was forced into taking too many shots, bad shots.

you can't win ballgames against good defenses unless you stay disciplined and keep the ball moving ahead of the defenders.

tkf mentioned that the thing that concerns him most about the knicks is that the celtics have one thing the knicks don't: POISE.

at this point it is folly to claim that "the knicks are heavily reliant on melo" since it is clear that he actually brings this situation on himself. bryant has manifested the same tendencies against good defenses plenty of times.

LOL. Why bother posting?

Dude you never post after a win. Coincidence? I think not.

Smith and Melo played like trash and the game was STILL winnable. Spare me your "analysis".

i watched the game sunday-- one that mattered to me. posted during the game thread and afterwards.

i have watched most of the games and have posted win or lose. because i have watched most of the games i know the team and understand its strengths and weaknesses.

i dont need to see games at this point to understand what happened.

my statistical analysis backs up what the eyes see-- did they not?

GustavBahler @ 4/12/2013 10:52 AM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the fuck up.

3G4G @ 4/12/2013 11:37 AM
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?

ROFL!!!


Then he had the nerve to do a Wayans Brother Pops.....BANG BANG BANG BANG....BANG!!!! DCDC going to their bench. Oh Crap was he showing out


LiL Nathan Was Nothing More Than A Complete Buffoonery Of Mockery Against Us Yesterday All The Way To a 4-0 Season Sweep


Since regular season results tend to determine things around these neck of the woods, should we meet them in the playoffs we have no shot of getting past them.


AND YOU CAN TAKE THIS "WITHOUT DERRICK ROSE GOING" TO THE BANK!!!!!!!!!

tkf @ 4/12/2013 11:42 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the fuck up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....

tkf @ 4/12/2013 11:44 AM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?

ROFL!!!


Then he had the nerve to do a Wayans Brother Pops.....BANG BANG BANG BANG....BANG!!!! DCDC going to their bench. Oh Crap was he showing out


LiL Nathan Was Nothing More Than A Complete Buffoonery Of Mockery Against Us Yesterday All The Way To a 4-0 Season Sweep


Since regular season results tend to determine things around these neck of the woods, should we meet them in the playoffs we have no shot of getting past them.


AND YOU CAN TAKE THIS "WITHOUT DERRICK ROSE GOING" TO THE BANK!!!!!!!!!

dude that was hilarious....

ChuckBuck @ 4/12/2013 11:48 AM
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:LiL Nathan...seriously....DCDC in front of Novak?

ROFL!!!


Then he had the nerve to do a Wayans Brother Pops.....BANG BANG BANG BANG....BANG!!!! DCDC going to their bench. Oh Crap was he showing out


LiL Nathan Was Nothing More Than A Complete Buffoonery Of Mockery Against Us Yesterday All The Way To a 4-0 Season Sweep


Since regular season results tend to determine things around these neck of the woods, should we meet them in the playoffs we have no shot of getting past them.


AND YOU CAN TAKE THIS "WITHOUT DERRICK ROSE GOING" TO THE BANK!!!!!!!!!

dude that was hilarious....

Lol where were you jokers during the 13 game win streak!

TeamBall @ 4/12/2013 11:49 AM
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
tkf wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hats off to Melo, only so much he can do. No post presence at all and still took them to OT. Can't get upset about this one. It was a hell of a streak considering everything this team has had to deal with this season. Not happy about that JR tech though, he served that one right up to the Bulls.


really? hats off? how about hats off to the knicks?

You're a real piece of work. I congratulate the team for taking the Bulls to OT and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" I repeatedly mention in the game thread how this team never quits and you ask me "what about the Knicks?" Grow the fuck up.

You started off with "Hats off to melo".. "only so much he can do" really?give me break man, I am just calling you out on that.... Talk about grow up.. come on.. that is the problem with some of you guys.. the knicks are the side piece.. they are the jackson 5 to carmelo trying to be mike.....


What is wrong with you? Gustav congratulated the entire team in previous posts but you see one post giving Melo credit and you lose it. Ironically, you're more preoccupied with Melo than anyone on this board.
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