I would take Marion for him--its close in money and we can let Marion play 3 and melo play4.
Would love that deal, especially if it included 2nd round picks
Martin's mobility on DEF and OFF brings so much more to the table
Martin
Camby
Cope
Amare
and a good vet min signing at C, it would be good enough
BRIGGS wrote:I would take Marion for him--its close in money and we can let Marion play 3 and melo play4.
too old and will probably get injured and heal slow
RonRon wrote:Would love that deal, especially if it included 2nd round picks
Martin's mobility on DEF and OFF brings so much more to the tableMartin
Camby
Cope
Amare
and a good vet min signing at C, it would be good enough
That's not enough. If you trade Chandler you need to get a starting quality center back. Martin can't play starter minutes for a long stretch.
If there were sign and trades I would go for Leonard and Hickson. Since they want to move to a more defensive Center. Since the Knicks can not do any sign and trades there really is not a Market with valuable assets that would make since for NY to trade with.
There was a recent article by Grantland about the Raptors and how the analytic guys made up a program to track where there players should be on defense. So, since Ny has the same technology maybe they have made up their own kind of program that tracks the same things and if so they can actually maybe track players of other teams and see how they react on D and see if they resemble the player they are trading or is better. They could also do they same thing on Offense. They can track what kind of sceener a player is, how fast he rolls, and so on. Given all that maybe they have someone who can replace what Tyson gives you defensively and slightly more offensively.
Is Jason Thompson that player? Maybe Thompson, Patterson, and Fredette for Tyson.
I think Tyson will get better and still be that game changing player. With the garbage contracts and Novak the Knicks will be able to get a player or two that will help.
Would trade Chandler for DeAndre Jordan and Jamal Crawford.
Jordan/Martin
Melo/Cope
Shumps/
JR/JC
Felton/Kidd
No way, if we're trading Chandler we need more back then just a practically washed up 3. Any trade would have to include a starting quality center and at least another piece. I've thought that OKC, GS, and LAC would make the most sense in terms of need and assets. OKC could trade Perkins and someone they got in the Harden trade, LAC has DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe, and GS has Bogut and some other nice players they'd probably be willing to give up. As much as I like Martin and appreciate what he's done for us I'd prefer not to be going forward with a 35-year old, undersized center.
Lets wait and see what happens in the playoffs. Chandler missed the last month of the year. So of course he looked rusty in Game 1. We still need him if we are gonna have a chance this year and even next year
Marion will be 36 next year. You will be in for a big disappointment if you expect him to start. Plus, Candler's value is much greater than that. We'd be getting the short end of the stick in that deal.
BRIGGS wrote:I would take Marion for him--its close in money and we can let Marion play 3 and melo play4.
Another knee jerk reaction thread 
I think I know your backup plan - Get Dallas to sign the worst NBDL player to a $14 mil/yr contract in an S & T for Tyson.
I usually agre with you BRIGGS but this one is a little extreme.
We've just won a critical game and you already talking Shawn Maraion?
Shawn Marion?
We not talking about the playoffs that we have worked all season to get to. We not talking about surviving injuries, doubt, shift changes and potential mutiny. We not talkin about goin 54-28.
We talkin bout Shawn Marion.
Shawn Marion
We talkin bout Shawn Marion.
Ugh - that's insane. This must be a frustration move.
I would like Marion back for his versatility and a body to actually put on Lebron/Durant/Rudy Gay/Paul George/Granger if he recovers
Also we would have to either get a trade exemption we could use to keep
Could also use a 2nd rounder this year
Martin/Copeland
or a FA
Would be happy with either or Vince Carter/Brandon Wright
to make up the difference of salary with Marion/Chandler
Only 2/3 teams that we would need a legit C for in the East are
Lopez
Noah
Hibbert
And I really like how we play with Martin and a more mobile PF/C
I would prefer
Hickson (who will opt out but we would have bird rights for)
2nd round pick
and trade exemption
But Marion is a nice piece to have to compliment Melo rather than Chandler who's DEF has declined this year and offense is non existent
The lane gets open so JR and others to penetrate, making us much harder to defend
I just don't think Chandler is the same player as last year and if we can get decent value for him while keeping
JR
Martin
Copeland
2/3 at least are actually more important to the team than Chandler is at this point
with the good/solid vet min C
like
Twolves
Chris Johnson/Greg Stimensa
Ryan Hollins
Hidaddi
Thabeet
Oden
probably more than vet min
-----------------------------
Odom?
Blatche
So trade an all-star center and DPOY and get basically nothing in return? Huh?
misterearl wrote:We've just won a critical game and you already talking Shawn Maraion?Shawn Marion?
We not talking about the playoffs that we have worked all season to get to. We not talking about surviving injuries, doubt, shift changes and potential mutiny. We not talkin about goin 54-28.
We talkin bout Shawn Marion.
Shawn Marion
We talkin bout Shawn Marion.
That's that Henny talking, not Briggs.
misterearl wrote:We've just won a critical game and you already talking Shawn Maraion?Shawn Marion?
We not talking about the playoffs that we have worked all season to get to. We not talking about surviving injuries, doubt, shift changes and potential mutiny. We not talkin about goin 54-28.
We talkin bout Shawn Marion.
Shawn Marion
We talkin bout Shawn Marion.
Hilarious ...
Not Marion. We should be targeting Jerry Stackhouse. Maybe Juwan Howard if we're willing to include Shumpert in the offer.
Bonn1997 wrote:Not Marion. We should be targeting Jerry Stackhouse. Maybe Juwan Howard if we're willing to include Shumpert in the offer.
Marion was very good this year and would be really good here. To me higher priority is Kenyon Martin and JR Smith. Moving out that 5+m would be one more step 4ward to not only acquiring a player that will really help us next year--but making sure we keep the more important players.
