Or something along those lines. Dump Amare somehow. Sign a cheap center to platoon with Kmart & Camby. Knicks would be DEADLY with Melo and Rondo wow! Still hearing Celtics might move Rondo. Maybe we can get him while he is making it back from ACL
C's need a big.
Its not Melo & Paul but not too shabby imo
Never going to happen and no offense but do we need another trade Tyson thread.
Maybe a 3 team trasw. Dont see Boston trading with us directly
Greater chance of hell freezing over.
gunsnewing wrote:Or something along those lines. Dump Amare somehow. Sign a cheap center to platoon with Kmart & Camby. Knicks would be DEADLY with Melo and Rondo wow! Still hearing Celtics might move Rondo. Maybe we can get him while he is making it back from ACLC's need a big.
Its not Melo & Paul but not too shabby imo
Since you threw it out there its fair game:
"Somehow dump Amre".............
Celts have been trying to trade Rondo because despite his talent the man is just not liked. He is tolerated.
With a blown ACL this dude is not movable for two reasons now.
Rondo dropped in the draft for good reasons relating to the fact he was not a good shooter and he is odd.
wow, Knicks fans just dying to offload Tyson. Bigs are NOT something you just get rid of. We move him and next guys will be moaning about us needing a Center.
What tyaon gives us in only 29-30mins can be replaced for a lot less than $14-15mil per. This fact is being proven right in front of our eyes by Kmart who is 35 and making $1mil
You wont find a good to great PG for $1mil
The game has changed. There are less true centers and more forwards. Certainly a lot fewer centers with offensive skills. Only Dwight, Brook, Bynum, Gasol. Guys like Bogut and Bynum always injured. Cheap guys like Sanders, Mozgov and Biyombo
gunsnewing wrote:What tyaon gives us in only 29-30mins can be replaced for a lot less than $14-15mil per. This fact is being proven right in front of our eyes by Kmart who is 35 and making $1milYou wont find a good to great PG for $1mil
The game has changed. There are less true centers and more forwards. Certainly a lot fewer centers with offensive skills. Only Dwight, Brook, Bynum, Gasol. Guys like Bogut and Bynum always injured. Cheap guys like Sanders, Mozgov and Biyombo
If our big three wants to win a championship they should restructurr their contract like miami did.
Tyson's impact on this team goes beyond what you see on the court. From a basketball perspective only reason you trade him is if you can replace most of his production at center and upgrade another position, such as trading him for Bledsoe and Jordan. Not many deals out there you can do this though, and you won't get fair value for him because most people, including our own fans, don't realize everything he brings.
can we wait until after the playoffs to trade guys?
If the Knicks have no intention of creating cap space in 2015 then they might as well trade Chandler to get Melo help now.
We can't get rid of Tyson. Dump Tyson and we're undersized again. I have nothing against Tyson. I'm not sure we can get fair value in a trade for him and he's a major part of our success, especially in the locker room. There's next to zero reason to trade Tyson. Trade Amar'e you can argue. Tyson, no.
This thought that Kenyon Martin can man center every game leaves us undersized and ridiculously thin. I really like Kenyon, but there are still teams in this league that play big and we always have injury concerns with older players.
Plus, at this point, if the team has found chemistry, leave it alone unless we have a trade with a clear win. Part of why we sucked for 10 years was the roster would be 100% overturned every 18 months. Guys can't learn to play well with each other with so much tweaking.
Camby
Kmart
And a young inexpensive big like a Biyombo
PG is a more valuable position in todays nba imo
Solace wrote:We can't get rid of Tyson. Dump Tyson and we're undersized again. I have nothing against Tyson. I'm not sure we can get fair value in a trade for him and he's a major part of our success, especially in the locker room. There's next to zero reason to trade Tyson. Trade Amar'e you can argue. Tyson, no.This thought that Kenyon Martin can man center every game leaves us undersized and ridiculously thin. I really like Kenyon, but there are still teams in this league that play big and we always have injury concerns with older players.
Plus, at this point, if the team has found chemistry, leave it alone unless we have a trade with a clear win. Part of why we sucked for 10 years was the roster would be 100% overturned every 18 months. Guys can't learn to play well with each other with so much tweaking.
Not really. LA Clippers would be the most ideal trade partners. Deandre Jordan is young and hasnt been injury prone. He can run and finish around the rim.
Chandler and Shumpert
for
Jordan and Bledsoe
Biggest thing is the Knicks get younger and do a rebuild on the fly around Melo.
LA gets a guard who can play next to Paul and defend and a center who can make free throws. Plus Chandler and Paul are cool.
gunsnewing wrote:Camby
Kmart
And a young inexpensive big like a BiyomboPG is a more valuable position in todays nba imo
Biyombo is barely 6'9". And how do we get him? Camby can't be relied on. Can Kenyon? We need more than that. Sorry. I like Rondo, but this is a bad plan.
Man, gunsnewing- you hate Tyson more than TKF hates Melo!
AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:We can't get rid of Tyson. Dump Tyson and we're undersized again. I have nothing against Tyson. I'm not sure we can get fair value in a trade for him and he's a major part of our success, especially in the locker room. There's next to zero reason to trade Tyson. Trade Amar'e you can argue. Tyson, no.This thought that Kenyon Martin can man center every game leaves us undersized and ridiculously thin. I really like Kenyon, but there are still teams in this league that play big and we always have injury concerns with older players.
Plus, at this point, if the team has found chemistry, leave it alone unless we have a trade with a clear win. Part of why we sucked for 10 years was the roster would be 100% overturned every 18 months. Guys can't learn to play well with each other with so much tweaking.
Not really. LA Clippers would be the most ideal trade partners. Deandre Jordan is young and hasnt been injury prone. He can run and finish around the rim.
Chandler and Shumpert
for
Jordan and Bledsoe
Biggest thing is the Knicks get younger and do a rebuild on the fly around Melo.
LA gets a guard who can play next to Paul and defend and a center who can make free throws. Plus Chandler and Paul are cool.
I dont see the Knicks getting better. They lost a SG/SF defender (with the possiblity of JR splitting) and the downgrade C. Bledsoe nice addition but not at that cost.
Solace wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Camby
Kmart
And a young inexpensive big like a BiyomboPG is a more valuable position in todays nba imo
Biyombo is barely 6'9". And how do we get him? Camby can't be relied on. Can Kenyon? We need more than that. Sorry. I like Rondo, but this is a bad plan.
6'9 but almkst 2blocks in only 25mins
Larry Sanders is another good one. Led league in blocks but might be tougher to obtain. You have camby and kmart. Miami has bosh starting at center. Im a big man guy duncan ewing shaq dream etc but id be lying if I said the leagye revolves around centers like it used to through the 90s
Certainly Tyson is not in their class
smackeddog wrote:Man, gunsnewing- you hate Tyson more than TKF hates Melo!
I dont hate him. I just think he has enough value to help us build around Melo and make Melos entire stay a success. Im in favor of upgrading the PG position primarily. You have to give to receive. Tyson is the only chip we can dangle since Amare is untradeable til after next season.
I dont hate Tyson or Felton just think upgrading thise positions could make us elite contenders for nearly a decade
I root for tyson because he us a knick
martin wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Solace wrote:We can't get rid of Tyson. Dump Tyson and we're undersized again. I have nothing against Tyson. I'm not sure we can get fair value in a trade for him and he's a major part of our success, especially in the locker room. There's next to zero reason to trade Tyson. Trade Amar'e you can argue. Tyson, no.This thought that Kenyon Martin can man center every game leaves us undersized and ridiculously thin. I really like Kenyon, but there are still teams in this league that play big and we always have injury concerns with older players.
Plus, at this point, if the team has found chemistry, leave it alone unless we have a trade with a clear win. Part of why we sucked for 10 years was the roster would be 100% overturned every 18 months. Guys can't learn to play well with each other with so much tweaking.
Not really. LA Clippers would be the most ideal trade partners. Deandre Jordan is young and hasnt been injury prone. He can run and finish around the rim.
Chandler and Shumpert
for
Jordan and Bledsoe
Biggest thing is the Knicks get younger and do a rebuild on the fly around Melo.
LA gets a guard who can play next to Paul and defend and a center who can make free throws. Plus Chandler and Paul are cool.
I dont see the Knicks getting better. They lost a SG/SF defender (with the possiblity of JR splitting) and the downgrade C. Bledsoe nice addition but not at that cost.
Deandre makes less money and expires at the same time as Chandler. The difference is Chandler will be 32 and Jordan will 26.
The question is who do the Knicks value more. Shumpert or Bledsoe. PG's and Centers come at a premium in this league.
