Knicks · What would you prefer from Melo: 18 FGAs, 4+ assists or 23 FGAs and 1 to 2 assists? (page 1)

Bonn1997 wrote:I actually think MDA was trying to get Melo to play the right way. Melo just couldn't make shots and wouldn't try on defense.

MDA with a defensive philosophy, that's a first...Please stop with what MDA was trying to do..It's pure speculation ...MDA is a horrible coach that knows only one way...Nash in his prime ran the offense and call the plays on court...I not even sure how much credit MDA gets...

As much as Kobe is idolised now, he's spent his career going in and out of the same trap. It's a tough balance to get right, and I think it comes down to having the right supporting players.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

- whats more concerning about his shot selection is his lack of DEFENSE. i think ppl assume that melo was put at the 4 as a mismatch (even though 3 or 4s guard him - melo will score on ANYONE). the real issue was hiding his lack of perimeter defense at the 4

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

So they wanted to resign Melo to trade him...Hahahahahahahahahh...They look like they could have used Melo in the playoffs...

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

So they wanted to resign Melo to trade him...Hahahahahahahahahh...They look like they could have used Melo in the playoffs...

Yep....

Denver looked like they could have used Paul George or Tony Allen or Marc Gasol in the playoffs....to stop the Warriors from dropping 110+....

Hahahahahahahahahh and another Hahahahahahahahahh

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I actually think MDA was trying to get Melo to play the right way. Melo just couldn't make shots and wouldn't try on defense.

MDA with a defensive philosophy, that's a first...Please stop with what MDA was trying to do..It's pure speculation ...MDA is a horrible coach that knows only one way...Nash in his prime ran the offense and call the plays on court...I not even sure how much credit MDA gets...

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

So they wanted to resign Melo to trade him...Hahahahahahahahahh...They look like they could have used Melo in the playoffs...

Yep....

Denver looked like they could have used Paul George or Tony Allen or Marc Gasol in the playoffs....to stop the Warriors from dropping 110+....

Hahahahahahahahahh and another Hahahahahahahahahh

Well if your theory is correct they got exactly what they were looking for a trade of Melo for assets...Only think tho it resulted in a first round exit...

smackeddog wrote:Melo actually started the season passing and not forcing it too much. Then he was scoring so well, he started dominating the ball more. Then we fell in to the vicious circle of other players not shooting well, so he doesn't pass, so they don't get the ball enough, so they don't shoot well, so he doesn't pass, etc etc etc

As much as Kobe is idolised now, he's spent his career going in and out of the same trap. It's a tough balance to get right, and I think it comes down to having the right supporting players.

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

So they wanted to resign Melo to trade him...Hahahahahahahahahh...They look like they could have used Melo in the playoffs...

Yep....

Denver looked like they could have used Paul George or Tony Allen or Marc Gasol in the playoffs....to stop the Warriors from dropping 110+....

Hahahahahahahahahh and another Hahahahahahahahahh

Well if your theory is correct they got exactly what they were looking for a trade of Melo for assets...Only think tho it resulted in a first round exit...

My Theory was proven correct with 2 teams Indiana and GSW...young teams who made it just as far if not further than the Knicks...

I'm about having a young team to grow with and have success

You're about having an old team to fold with creating a mess

NEXT?

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

So they wanted to resign Melo to trade him...Hahahahahahahahahh...They look like they could have used Melo in the playoffs...

Yep....

Denver looked like they could have used Paul George or Tony Allen or Marc Gasol in the playoffs....to stop the Warriors from dropping 110+....

Hahahahahahahahahh and another Hahahahahahahahahh

Well if your theory is correct they got exactly what they were looking for a trade of Melo for assets...Only think tho it resulted in a first round exit...

My Theory was proven correct with 2 teams Indiana and GSW...young teams who made it just as far if not further than the Knicks...

I'm about having a young team to grow with and have success

You're about having an old team to fold with creating a mess

NEXT?

Who did Indy and GS trade away for young assets?????

Bonn1997 wrote:I actually think MDA was trying to get Melo to play the right way. Melo just couldn't make shots and wouldn't try on defense.

To be fair, MDA really had great ideas on offense, but he was too dependant on the PG and didn't use Melo to post up and effectively iao.

Not saying it is better with Woodson. His offensive deficiencies are well known here and it looked like he list the team at some point because they became undisciplined, immature, lacked effort and urgency.

So MDA needed a defensive specialist and Woodson needs an offensive specialist.

We still need a complete coach.

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:There's really no need for any NBA player to take 20FGA/gm unless he's Lebron or Micheal Jordan.

Melo takes this many FGA/gm for 2 reasons...

1 - He Lust To Shoot The Rock

2 - The Players around him feel less significant or are stamped down while on the court with him ultimately coming to brainstorming conclusions..... it's near impossible to construct a team around him that compliments his skillets where it can win at the highest level.

The irony and Hypocrisy in all of this...the greater portion of the fan base is willing to give the organization as much time necessary to figure out what roster will work for Melo, while OTOH if the organization infuses youth on the team they want to see immediate star potential otherwise scrap the game plan and acquire the most talented, malcontent, underachiever.... as possible to make them feel at ease.

So why was Denver trying to keep and resign Melo??

Because they had Lawson/Afflalo/Cap Space-Expiring contracts/Future picks....to not only re-sign Melo but to get younger, add pieces, and to play a style of basketball more suited to today's game. Also they could sign Melo and then trade him...you know like they did Nene/Afflalo/Harrington.

Last I checked Denver is Denver and we're the Knicks

Next idiotic question?

So they wanted to resign Melo to trade him...Hahahahahahahahahh...They look like they could have used Melo in the playoffs...

Yep....

Denver looked like they could have used Paul George or Tony Allen or Marc Gasol in the playoffs....to stop the Warriors from dropping 110+....

Hahahahahahahahahh and another Hahahahahahahahahh

Well if your theory is correct they got exactly what they were looking for a trade of Melo for assets...Only think tho it resulted in a first round exit...

My Theory was proven correct with 2 teams Indiana and GSW...young teams who made it just as far if not further than the Knicks...

I'm about having a young team to grow with and have success

You're about having an old team to fold with creating a mess

NEXT?

Who did Indy and GS trade away for young assets?????

They didn't they held on to their players and didn't get caught up in the hype....

Klay was sought after by OKC for Harden....they said no thanks. I believe Steph Curry was mentioned in the Melo rumors once again they held on to him.

Indy didn't S&T Hibbert to Portland a la David Lee to GSW..... but instead matched his offer sheet. They didn't trade their second pick Lance Stephenson to get someone like O.J. Mayo. They also didn't Landry Fields him(same draft class btw and act like he was the gift and then once trades and new acquisitions were made treat him like the curse)

What had any of those players showed up until those moments? Not a whole lot. Curry was about as fragile as they come......Galloesque. I wonder if Warrior fans were pulling their hairs out hoping Melo or Rudy Gay would come their way because of Peter Pan's ankles? I doubt it.

Oh and the Warriors were offered Chandler for pick 7 but they said no we'd rather select Harrison Barnes and keep him

Once again....

I'm about having a young team to grow with and have success

You're about having an old team to fold with creating a mess

Knicksfan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I actually think MDA was trying to get Melo to play the right way. Melo just couldn't make shots and wouldn't try on defense.

To be fair, MDA really had great ideas on offense, but he was too dependant on the PG and didn't use Melo to post up and effectively iao.

Not saying it is better with Woodson. His offensive deficiencies are well known here and it looked like he list the team at some point because they became undisciplined, immature, lacked effort and urgency.

So MDA needed a defensive specialist and Woodson needs an offensive specialist.

We still need a complete coach.