Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
yellowboy90@ 5/24/2013 8:16 PM
put on the summer league team.
Caseloads@ 5/24/2013 9:21 PM
he looks like he's trying to play more PG. He'll never be a PG, just a SG trapped in a PG body
CrushAlot@ 5/24/2013 9:28 PM
He looks like he would be a good camp invite. Any idea why he played on three different teams in d-l?
yellowboy90@ 5/24/2013 9:32 PM
look like a smaller version of J. bayless
CrushAlot@ 5/24/2013 9:33 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:look like a smaller version of J. bayless
Bayless is awesome. It would be great if he could play that role for the Knicks.
AnubisADL@ 5/24/2013 9:42 PM
We are talking about a minimum player signing.
Bayless and Foye are likely to get more than the minimum.
I'd give him a look. We are kind of limited financially.
CrushAlot@ 5/24/2013 9:44 PM
AnubisADL wrote:We are talking about a minimum player signing.
Bayless and Foye are likely to get more than the minimum.
I'd give him a look. We are kind of limited financially.
I meant if Selby could play that role. I reread my post and realize I wasn't clear.
yellowboy90@ 5/24/2013 9:46 PM
I am not big on Foye to me you could get Freddette from the Kings probably for nothing and he could give you what Foye gives and maybe more if he develops
NardDogNation@ 5/24/2013 11:29 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
CrushAlot@ 5/24/2013 11:31 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
I think he was in Shump's draft class and is a friend of Melo's. Not sure how close they are but I believe he is from Baltimore. I think the Knicks worked him out in the Shump draft.
Caseloads@ 5/24/2013 11:32 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I am not big on Foye to me you could get Freddette from the Kings probably for nothing and he could give you what Foye gives and maybe more if he develops
jimmer is terrible
NardDogNation@ 5/25/2013 2:00 AM
Caseloads wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I am not big on Foye to me you could get Freddette from the Kings probably for nothing and he could give you what Foye gives and maybe more if he develops
jimmer is terrible
I think he'll have a late career surge, kinda like Redick with the Magic. Because of Fredette's footspeed and inability to run point though, I don't think he'd be a fit for us.
NardDogNation@ 5/25/2013 2:01 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
I think he was in Shump's draft class and is a friend of Melo's. Not sure how close they are but I believe he is from Baltimore. I think the Knicks worked him out in the Shump draft.
Yeah, all that stuff is true. Its for those reasons that I thought we definitely were working away with him in the draft but took Harrellson instead.
Sangfroid@ 5/25/2013 8:28 AM
We could do a lot worst than this kid. Summer league definite. Especially since we don't have a 2nd round pick.
VCoug@ 5/25/2013 10:50 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
You're being kind calling Chris Smith a project.
callmened@ 5/25/2013 11:17 AM
Selby had a lot of hype but like someone said hes a sg trappd in a pg body
Jimmer is trash
Finestrg@ 5/25/2013 2:21 PM
AnubisADL wrote:We are talking about a minimum player signing.
Bayless and Foye are likely to get more than the minimum.
I'd give him a look. We are kind of limited financially.
I agree - these are the guys we should be looking at for this very reason. We're limited on ways to improve, plain and simple. Beggars can't be choosers. There's a ton of real solid talent out there in the bargin-bin -- this is yet another example. This kid's got a lot of talent and, yeah, by the looks of it, he's appeared to come a long way operating at the point. I like the Bayless comparison by yellow. A kid like this makes us younger and ups the talent level in the backcourt significantly.
NardDogNation@ 5/25/2013 2:27 PM
VCoug wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
You're being kind calling Chris Smith a project.
Yeah, I didn't want to be a dick. Even so, the idea of wasting a roster spot on him churns my stomach because it wreaks of the nepotism that got Marbury's family cushy jobs that they became tyrants in. It almost makes me willing to let JR walk but that would be an irrational move IMO.
Finestrg@ 5/25/2013 2:48 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
VCoug wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
You're being kind calling Chris Smith a project.
Yeah, I didn't want to be a dick. Even so, the idea of wasting a roster spot on him churns my stomach because it wreaks of the nepotism that got Marbury's family cushy jobs that they became tyrants in. It almost makes me willing to let JR walk but that would be an irrational move IMO.
Tell ya what Nard, after the last two years of playoffs, I would let JR walk. I don't think this guy's that good at all. Unefficient, low % basketball throughout the year (along with bouts of immaturity that can pop off at any time) and then 2 stinkers in the playoffs 2 years running now. We don't need this guy, esp. if we had to sign his brother too. That's ridiculous...I get the whole '$5m for a guy that puts up 18 ppg is good value' thing -- I just feel we can make up the production through different player signings and the one draft pick (plus other guys assuming a bigger role like Shumpert) and for far less than 5m. Not the end of the world if this guy walks, believe me.
NardDogNation@ 5/25/2013 3:35 PM
Finestrg wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
VCoug wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench.
Assuming we dont draft a guard I dont think it would hurt to give him a look for the minimum.
I'm unfamiliar with his play but he looked good in those clips. I'm not too sure if we can afford to keep two projects on the roster that play the same position though (the other prospect being Chris Smith).
You're being kind calling Chris Smith a project.
Yeah, I didn't want to be a dick. Even so, the idea of wasting a roster spot on him churns my stomach because it wreaks of the nepotism that got Marbury's family cushy jobs that they became tyrants in. It almost makes me willing to let JR walk but that would be an irrational move IMO.
Tell ya what Nard, after the last two years of playoffs, I would let JR walk. I don't think this guy's that good at all. Unefficient, low % basketball throughout the year (along with bouts of immaturity that can pop off at any time) and then 2 stinkers in the playoffs 2 years running now. We don't need this guy, esp. if we had to sign his brother too. That's ridiculous...I get the whole '$5m for a guy that puts up 18 ppg is good value' thing -- I just feel we can make up the production through different player signings and the one draft pick (plus other guys assuming a bigger role like Shumpert) and for far less than 5m. Not the end of the world if this guy walks, believe me.
I definitely felt that way following the playoffs but started to walk myself off that position. He's been wildly inconsistent in his career but seemed to hit his stride this season (playoffs excluded). As a bench player, we could live with this but we can not expect for him to be the 2nd best player on the team moving forward if we want to be a contender. The problem is that we may not have the assets to acquire someone better than JR or have the assets to replace (the 2012-2013 regular season version of) him if he leaves. I'm still on the fence about the whole thing but I'd love to trade him for value if we can.
