tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:NUPE wrote:Meh, Melo is better than George for now...This board is overly obsessed with young emerging players.
George cant touch melo. He's a good player on a great team but he's grossly over hyped here.
sounds familiar...
Turned out to be true when it came to Lin, no??
all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade
callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade
Ned, I think it was something I told you when you first joined
it is more about the retaliation some poster's has to always give and bring up, sometimes taking it way too far
Some low blows to prove "I was right" and while other's it is just meant to bash other's
It is a never ending cycle of retaliation and I have come to just accept it for what it is
Just because you are a fan of team does not mean you have to agree with every move they make...
callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade
i will always miss lin, because linsanity was the greatest knicks moment since the finals against houston,
and then we let him walk,
i forgive melo for the trade and i dispute the claim that melo would not come if we did not have amar'e, i think melo would have liked to come even more without amar'e, because then he could personally select his future Max player teammate,
IronWillGiroud wrote:callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade
i will always miss lin, because linsanity was the greatest knicks moment since the finals against houston,
and then we let him walk,
i forgive melo for the trade and i dispute the claim that melo would not come if we did not have amar'e, i think melo would have liked to come even more without amar'e, because then he could personally select his future Max player teammate,
so amar'e signing is the big bad thing we have, not the melo trade, melo trade i think came out even, though we could have gotten melo for less,
the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
CrushAlot wrote:callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
it's debated because, it's the type of thing that isn't obvious immmediately,
for example they will string us along a little bit with big hopes that amar'e will return to form, but the truth is that he will never return to form,
CrushAlot wrote:callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
How come the Pacers have overcome the near max money owed to Granger? He played less than Amare did this year. And the Grizzlies and Spurs both had less money in healthy players than we did.
Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
How come the Pacers have overcome the near max money owed to Granger? He played less than Amare did this year. And the Grizzlies and Spurs both had less money in healthy players than we did.
Those teams are more well rounded than the Knicks and are not built to heavily rely on one or two guys coupled with one dimensional role-players. Knick's lacking Amar'e and/or Melo greatly hinders them for post-season play moreso than the circumstances of the teams you mentioned.
NUPE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
How come the Pacers have overcome the near max money owed to Granger? He played less than Amare did this year. And the Grizzlies and Spurs both had less money in healthy players than we did.
Those teams are more well rounded than the Knicks and are not built to heavily rely on one or two guys coupled with one dimensional role-players. Knick's lacking Amar'e and/or Melo greatly hinders them for post-season play moreso than the circumstances of the teams you mentioned.
So basically those teams are better built than the Knicks are
Bonn1997 wrote:NUPE wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
How come the Pacers have overcome the near max money owed to Granger? He played less than Amare did this year. And the Grizzlies and Spurs both had less money in healthy players than we did.
Those teams are more well rounded than the Knicks and are not built to heavily rely on one or two guys coupled with one dimensional role-players. Knick's lacking Amar'e and/or Melo greatly hinders them for post-season play moreso than the circumstances of the teams you mentioned.
So basically those teams are better built than the Knicks are
Well that 5+ million helps them get better players. There would be a number of possibilities with 5 million.
callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade
it took THIS thread to tell you that. Look at ANY thread about Anthony that starts positively and you will see that posters will never let either the Denver trade or losing Lin go. Ten years from now they will still be sore about it.
Some posters just seem to like being miserable. I can't be specific but, even if I could, nothing good would come of it :)
DurzoBlint wrote:callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade
it took THIS thread to tell you that. Look at ANY thread about Anthony that starts positively and you will see that posters will never let either the Denver trade or losing Lin go. Ten years from now they will still be sore about it.
Some posters just seem to like being miserable. I can't be specific but, even if I could, nothing good would come of it :)
some posters know what it actually takes to win and would enjoy watching a winning brand of basketball instead of this smoke and mirror fool's gold regular season garbage. any team with carmelo anthony as the main piece will never play the game the right way with any consistency. that's how much of a detriment he is to a team sport.
Bonn1997 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:callmened wrote:the fundamental problem with this team is AMARE. no NBA team can afford to get little-to-NO production from a player making $20mil. Not only is THAT a waste but it prevents the team from acquiring any real productive talent. In my opinion, this team is "stuck" until Amare and his contract are GONE.
I agree. I also don't know why it is debated so much. You just can't overcome a 20 million dollar annual mistake in a sport with a salary cap.
How come the Pacers have overcome the near max money owed to Granger? He played less than Amare did this year. And the Grizzlies and Spurs both had less money in healthy players than we did.
For one Granger isn't near max, and the Pacers have built their team around youth with a few vets, not a bench full of old vets.
Another thing, their team is based on defense and guys willing to play defense which may not win every game in the regular season but it certainly will keep you competitive in the playoffs.
CrushAlot wrote:tkf wrote:holfresh wrote:tkf wrote:Knixkik wrote:NUPE wrote:Meh, Melo is better than George for now...This board is overly obsessed with young emerging players.
George cant touch melo. He's a good player on a great team but he's grossly over hyped here.
sounds familiar...
Turned out to be true when it came to Lin, no??
no
From Powell's Article, "The Invisible Lin'.
On Wednesday night Lin will try to atone for a gruesome Game 1 that saw him torched and even benched. In some ways, it really isn't fair to him. Westbrook is an All-Star who slices up many point guards, not just Lin. And this is Lin's first taste of the playoffs because last spring, in a controversial decision that greased his way out of New York, he declared himself unfit for playoff duty, famously saying he was only "85 percent" after undergoing meniscus surgery almost two months earlier. By comparison, Metta World Peace this season returned from the same surgery in a few weeks."I had a bad game, it happens," Lin said. "I'm not too worried about it. It will get better."
It wasn't a bad performance against the Thunder, more like an invisible one. He made only one basket, a season-low. Serge Ibaka, the shot-blocker from the Thunder, had three times as many three-point shots fall as Lin had field goals. Westbrook was two rebounds short of a triple double. Lin had as many turnovers as assists. And Rockets coach Kevin McHale, frustrated at getting minimal production at the point, pulled Lin for a spell during the second half of a blowout loss.
"One good thing about Jeremy is that he's a tough kid," said McHale. "He has always bounced back."
Tough night, then. Just the same, Lin is coming off a so-so season, one that didn't exactly make the Knicks twist and turn at night, wondering if they did the wrong thing by letting him escape last summer in free agency. In his first full season as a starter and with the responsibility of leading a team, Lin helped the Rockets to the playoffs. That is true. He did not make the Knicks miss him. That also is true. He was helped immensely in Houston by the arrival of James Harden, not only from a pressure standpoint, but Harden became an All-Star and the primary face of the Rockets. With Lin's blessing.
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/456...
ok, and this proves what? LOL
