Knicks · Scary Version? Paul George May Be Better Than Our Best Player (page 14)

Jmpasq @ 6/3/2013 9:13 PM
Yeah he is making wonderful decisions tonight in Game 7. Guy is a walking turnover
Bonn1997 @ 6/3/2013 9:20 PM
What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?
yellowboy90 @ 6/3/2013 9:33 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?

Let's keep this game going.

nykshaknbake @ 6/3/2013 9:46 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade

it took THIS thread to tell you that. Look at ANY thread about Anthony that starts positively and you will see that posters will never let either the Denver trade or losing Lin go. Ten years from now they will still be sore about it.

Some posters just seem to like being miserable. I can't be specific but, even if I could, nothing good would come of it :)

some posters know what it actually takes to win and would enjoy watching a winning brand of basketball instead of this smoke and mirror fool's gold regular season garbage. any team with carmelo anthony as the main piece will never play the game the right way with any consistency. that's how much of a detriment he is to a team sport.

there is years and years of evidence of this.. yet he puts on a knick jersey and all of that goes out of the window.. I just don't get it...

which has nothing to do with the fact that some posters won't allow others to enjoy a thread with even a bit of positivity. Just because someone refuses to feed into the disenchantment of others doesn't mean they wear rose colored glasses either.

there is nothing positive about a hopeless situation. the owner is incompetent, feckless, egotistical, greedy, and infantile. he attracts the wrong people for the wrong reasons, many of whom share many of the traits he manifests. it's too bad some true lifelong knick fans have to endure this hot mess, and have crap heaped on their heads for stating the obvious.

The Knicks are Donnie Walsh's creation at this point. Grunwald can make small additions and hopefully draft well but the salaries/contracts are on Walsh. Walsh was supposed to be the respectable guy that would get the franchise back on track. Unfortunately his cap/asset clearing plan failed and he landed a guy who's knees were so bad that his contract couldn't be insured and he gave him a max deal. Not sure why you choose to ignore that and write rhetoric about character flaws. Seems like an agenda based post.

the only agenda around here is that it is NEVER melo's fault. it's walsh's fault. it's amare's fault. melo is the victim of walsh's incompetence and amare's bad knees. that sums up your position i am pretty sure.

melo was betrayed and he had nothing to do with coming to the knicks. he didn't want the money he just wanted to win. surely he had his drink laced with something and BAM next thing you know he wakes up in a knicks uniform.

Take a deep breath. It's gonna be alright.

AnubisADL @ 6/3/2013 11:23 PM
Lol. Trade Melo for Paul George! Dude is clutch.
Bonn1997 @ 6/4/2013 12:15 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!
Jmpasq @ 6/4/2013 3:41 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!

So much better then Melo , Melo has plenty of games where he shoots 20% and scores 7 points. Lets wait a little while before crowning MR George as an elite player shall we. If Melo had a game like George did in a Game 7 the board would of exploded

smackeddog @ 6/4/2013 3:47 AM
Wonder what the reaction would be if Melo went 2-9 FG, 1-4 3PT with 3TO and 7Pts and fouled out in a game 7?
yellowboy90 @ 6/4/2013 4:52 AM
Well its not really fair to judge George based on one game. He will hopefully get better on offense and he has one of the best rim protecting centers to help his already great defensive skills.

I don't like that as he increased his shots his shooting percentage has drop but he has time to figure it out.

Bonn1997 @ 6/4/2013 5:44 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!

So much better then Melo , Melo has plenty of games where he shoots 20% and scores 7 points. Lets wait a little while before crowning MR George as an elite player shall we. If Melo had a game like George did in a Game 7 the board would of exploded


Of course in a smaller sample of shots (9 total), there's going to be more variability or fluctuation in terms of percentages. I personally didn't say George was better than Melo though. He's just better than Melo in all the non-scoring facets of the game. Melo is a significantly better scorer.
Jmpasq @ 6/4/2013 7:02 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!

So much better then Melo , Melo has plenty of games where he shoots 20% and scores 7 points. Lets wait a little while before crowning MR George as an elite player shall we. If Melo had a game like George did in a Game 7 the board would of exploded


Of course in a smaller sample of shots (9 total), there's going to be more variability or fluctuation in terms of percentages. I personally didn't say George was better than Melo though. He's just better than Melo in all the non-scoring facets of the game. Melo is a significantly better scorer.

This game has always been, and will always be, about buckets. Sorry I had 2
DurzoBlint @ 6/4/2013 7:40 AM
nykshaknbake wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
callmened wrote:all this thread tells me is two things:
- some fans still miss Lin
- and some fans will never forgive melo for that denver trade

it took THIS thread to tell you that. Look at ANY thread about Anthony that starts positively and you will see that posters will never let either the Denver trade or losing Lin go. Ten years from now they will still be sore about it.

Some posters just seem to like being miserable. I can't be specific but, even if I could, nothing good would come of it :)

some posters know what it actually takes to win and would enjoy watching a winning brand of basketball instead of this smoke and mirror fool's gold regular season garbage. any team with carmelo anthony as the main piece will never play the game the right way with any consistency. that's how much of a detriment he is to a team sport.

there is years and years of evidence of this.. yet he puts on a knick jersey and all of that goes out of the window.. I just don't get it...

which has nothing to do with the fact that some posters won't allow others to enjoy a thread with even a bit of positivity. Just because someone refuses to feed into the disenchantment of others doesn't mean they wear rose colored glasses either.

there is nothing positive about a hopeless situation. the owner is incompetent, feckless, egotistical, greedy, and infantile. he attracts the wrong people for the wrong reasons, many of whom share many of the traits he manifests. it's too bad some true lifelong knick fans have to endure this hot mess, and have crap heaped on their heads for stating the obvious.

The Knicks are Donnie Walsh's creation at this point. Grunwald can make small additions and hopefully draft well but the salaries/contracts are on Walsh. Walsh was supposed to be the respectable guy that would get the franchise back on track. Unfortunately his cap/asset clearing plan failed and he landed a guy who's knees were so bad that his contract couldn't be insured and he gave him a max deal. Not sure why you choose to ignore that and write rhetoric about character flaws. Seems like an agenda based post.

the only agenda around here is that it is NEVER melo's fault. it's walsh's fault. it's amare's fault. melo is the victim of walsh's incompetence and amare's bad knees. that sums up your position i am pretty sure.

melo was betrayed and he had nothing to do with coming to the knicks. he didn't want the money he just wanted to win. surely he had his drink laced with something and BAM next thing you know he wakes up in a knicks uniform.

Take a deep breath. It's gonna be alright.

LOL, Melo gets the Lions share of blame here (not saying he isn't deserving). In fact you can't even say anything positive at all without having to deal with a few dozen posts detailing just how bad he is.

DurzoBlint @ 6/4/2013 7:41 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:Well its not really fair to judge George based on one game. He will hopefully get better on offense and he has one of the best rim protecting centers to help his already great defensive skills.

I don't like that as he increased his shots his shooting percentage has drop but he has time to figure it out.

How much easier would the game be for Melo IF he had 2 capable bigs like West and Hibbert.

nykshaknbake @ 6/4/2013 7:43 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:Well its not really fair to judge George based on one game. He will hopefully get better on offense and he has one of the best rim protecting centers to help his already great defensive skills.

I don't like that as he increased his shots his shooting percentage has drop but he has time to figure it out.

That happens to the vast majority of players. It's why you can't say we should be feeding Chandler like crazy because his fg% is high. The more you shoot and score the more the D adapts to stop you.

Jmpasq @ 6/4/2013 8:01 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Well its not really fair to judge George based on one game. He will hopefully get better on offense and he has one of the best rim protecting centers to help his already great defensive skills.

I don't like that as he increased his shots his shooting percentage has drop but he has time to figure it out.

How much easier would the game be for Melo IF he had 2 capable bigs like West and Hibbert.

Something that never gets taken into account from the bashing perspective. I know Melo is far from perfect and those who dont think he can be the lead guy on a championship team have a valid argument. The ones i have a problem with are the 1's that dismiss everything he does as if he cant be 1 of 2 pieces on a championship team. Those who compare his playoff success to players like Lebron who is obviously better also are looking from a skewed angle. Lebrons Cleveland years the EAST was putrid. In 2007 Lebron lost to the Spurs in a sweep the Nuggets lost to the same Spurs team he just played them in the 1st round but they won a game. Nuggets went 18-12 against East thats the same winning percentage the Cavs had 31-21. Nuggets would of easy been a Top 3 Seed in the East

Bonn1997 @ 6/4/2013 10:00 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!

So much better then Melo , Melo has plenty of games where he shoots 20% and scores 7 points. Lets wait a little while before crowning MR George as an elite player shall we. If Melo had a game like George did in a Game 7 the board would of exploded


Of course in a smaller sample of shots (9 total), there's going to be more variability or fluctuation in terms of percentages. I personally didn't say George was better than Melo though. He's just better than Melo in all the non-scoring facets of the game. Melo is a significantly better scorer.

This game has always been, and will always be, about buckets. Sorry I had 2

Does that include buckets you give up? Buckets you help your teammates score?

tkf @ 6/4/2013 10:13 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Lol. Trade Melo for Paul George! Dude is clutch.

I would do it in a heartbeat..

tkf @ 6/4/2013 10:15 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!

So much better then Melo , Melo has plenty of games where he shoots 20% and scores 7 points. Lets wait a little while before crowning MR George as an elite player shall we. If Melo had a game like George did in a Game 7 the board would of exploded


Of course in a smaller sample of shots (9 total), there's going to be more variability or fluctuation in terms of percentages. I personally didn't say George was better than Melo though. He's just better than Melo in all the non-scoring facets of the game. Melo is a significantly better scorer.

This game has always been, and will always be, about buckets. Sorry I had 2

yet, none of the leagues leading scorers are still playing.. LOL..

tell me, when was the last time a scoring champ won a title?

I'll wait...

tkf @ 6/4/2013 10:15 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Well its not really fair to judge George based on one game. He will hopefully get better on offense and he has one of the best rim protecting centers to help his already great defensive skills.

I don't like that as he increased his shots his shooting percentage has drop but he has time to figure it out.

How much easier would the game be for Melo IF he had 2 capable bigs like West and Hibbert.

Something that never gets taken into account from the bashing perspective. I know Melo is far from perfect and those who dont think he can be the lead guy on a championship team have a valid argument. The ones i have a problem with are the 1's that dismiss everything he does as if he cant be 1 of 2 pieces on a championship team. Those who compare his playoff success to players like Lebron who is obviously better also are looking from a skewed angle. Lebrons Cleveland years the EAST was putrid. In 2007 Lebron lost to the Spurs in a sweep the Nuggets lost to the same Spurs team he just played them in the 1st round but they won a game. Nuggets went 18-12 against East thats the same winning percentage the Cavs had 31-21. Nuggets would of easy been a Top 3 Seed in the East

carmelo played with camby and kenyon in their prime.. what are you talking about

tkf @ 6/4/2013 10:17 AM
LOL.. it is hilarious now at the attacks on paul George, as if that will help excuse carmelo and his constant failures.. WOW... some fans.. smh
Knixkik @ 6/4/2013 10:18 AM
tkf wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:What's worse? 4 turnovers a game or 15 missed shots?

What's really worse 6 TOs and 8 missed shots?


Who had that?!

So much better then Melo , Melo has plenty of games where he shoots 20% and scores 7 points. Lets wait a little while before crowning MR George as an elite player shall we. If Melo had a game like George did in a Game 7 the board would of exploded


Of course in a smaller sample of shots (9 total), there's going to be more variability or fluctuation in terms of percentages. I personally didn't say George was better than Melo though. He's just better than Melo in all the non-scoring facets of the game. Melo is a significantly better scorer.

This game has always been, and will always be, about buckets. Sorry I had 2

yet, none of the leagues leading scorers are still playing.. LOL..

tell me, when was the last time a scoring champ won a title?

I'll wait...

So by your theory, you don't think Durant will ever win a title? What about Jordan, how did he win so many as a league leader in scoring?

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