Knicks · We have our own Paul George in Iman Shumpert (page 1)

Caseloads @ 5/26/2013 12:11 AM
I think Iman can step up and become a Paul George-esque player for the knicks. We need a better coach though!
AnubisADL @ 5/26/2013 12:18 AM
yellowboy90 @ 5/26/2013 12:19 AM
once he learns how to finish, shoot mid range js and do some other things. I think he is a better on ball defender but George is better fighting through traffic and running through screens.
yellowboy90 @ 5/26/2013 12:21 AM
If anyone feel like doing the math: what would Shump FG% be if he shot .609 at the rim this year like he did his rookie year?
nykshaknbake @ 5/26/2013 12:25 AM
He has the potential to be that good. The physical tools are there and the skill too. If we trade him for an aging vet I will stop following this team.
Caseloads @ 5/26/2013 12:44 AM
AnubisADL wrote:

gangham style dance. nice
unstopaball12 @ 5/26/2013 2:42 AM
What makes george special is his length. For someone who is 6'10 he can do things you expect from a shooting guard.

Shumpert is only 6'5 he is not going to be Paul George.

Solace @ 5/26/2013 5:30 AM
unstopaball12 wrote:What makes george special is his length. For someone who is 6'10 he can do things you expect from a shooting guard.

Shumpert is only 6'5 he is not going to be Paul George.

Paul George is 6'8", not 6'10".

newyorknewyork @ 5/26/2013 6:29 AM
Shumpert has yet to really work on his game with NBA level training the past 2 off seasons. Carmelo needs to call Jordan(Since he is under his shoe brand) and get them to work together.
misterearl @ 5/26/2013 7:41 AM
The Man

Caseloads wrote:I think Iman can step up and become a Paul George-esque player for the knicks. We need a better coach though!

Our Coach is just another man tryna hold a Shump down.

sheesh.

VCoug @ 5/26/2013 8:41 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:If anyone feel like doing the math: what would Shump FG% be if he shot .609 at the rim this year like he did his rookie year?

This past season Shumpert took 80 shots in the restricted area and hit 35 of them for a shooting percentage of 43.75% and 39.6% overall. If he shot 60.9% at the rim he goes 49/80 at the rim and raises his overall shooting percentage to 44.72%.

Bonn1997 @ 5/26/2013 8:55 AM
VCoug wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If anyone feel like doing the math: what would Shump FG% be if he shot .609 at the rim this year like he did his rookie year?

This past season Shumpert took 80 shots in the restricted area and hit 35 of them for a shooting percentage of 43.75% and 39.6% overall. If he shot 60.9% at the rim he goes 49/80 at the rim and raises his overall shooting percentage to 44.72%.


The #s here look a little different. It has him at 48% at the rim.
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name...

Regardless, his #s were pretty bad everywhere except 3 point range. 48% at the rim is about 10 to 15 below the league average. Then he shot in the mid 20s from 3 to 9 and 10 to 15 feet and 38% from 16 to 23 feet.

Bonn1997 @ 5/26/2013 8:58 AM
Every one of our kid's is the next big thing
Sweetney -- Elton Brand in his prime
Lampe -- Dirk Nowitzki
Vujacic -- Nash
Fields -- Prince
Gallinari -- Dirk (We've had a lot of Dirks)
Vmart @ 5/26/2013 9:15 AM
Caseloads wrote:I think Iman can step up and become a Paul George-esque player for the knicks. We need a better coach though!

But Woody thinks JR is better than Paul George.

misterearl @ 5/26/2013 9:34 AM
Imported From Indiana

Vmart wrote:
But Woody thinks JR is better than Paul George.

VMart - and you know this how exactly?

VCoug @ 5/26/2013 9:36 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
VCoug wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If anyone feel like doing the math: what would Shump FG% be if he shot .609 at the rim this year like he did his rookie year?

This past season Shumpert took 80 shots in the restricted area and hit 35 of them for a shooting percentage of 43.75% and 39.6% overall. If he shot 60.9% at the rim he goes 49/80 at the rim and raises his overall shooting percentage to 44.72%.


The #s here look a little different. It has him at 48% at the rim.
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name...

Regardless, his #s were pretty bad everywhere except 3 point range. 48% at the rim is about 10 to 15 below the league average. Then he shot in the mid 20s from 3 to 9 and 10 to 15 feet and 38% from 16 to 23 feet.

Hmm, I took all my number from http://NBA.com/stats and his shot chart there looks like this:

I think the biggest difference is the areas don't exactly match up from both sites. There's also a difference in total shot attempts with NBA saying 275 and Hoopsdata saying 268.

Vmart @ 5/26/2013 9:55 AM
misterearl wrote:Imported From Indiana

Vmart wrote:
But Woody thinks JR is better than Paul George.

VMart - and you know this how exactly?

The license to Jack shots without repercussion. The ability to act stupid and not be reprimanded for actions detrimental to team. The way Woody rolls out the red carpet for JR no matter how bad he is doing or how selfish his actions are, allows me to think that Woody thinks he has the second coming of Micheal Jordan. So yeah I think Woody think JR is better than George.

knicks1248 @ 5/26/2013 10:45 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Shumpert has yet to really work on his game with NBA level training the past 2 off seasons. Carmelo needs to call Jordan(Since he is under his shoe brand) and get them to work together.

No dissrespect to MJ but he can't even elevate the players on his own team, guy is a awful teacher, he's one of those lead by example type players.

Melo needS to go workout with JOHN STOCKTON the all time leader in assist..smh

But honestly..Melo needs improve mentally, he needs to read books like the "art of war", he needs to change his approach to the game..10 years dude and his still playing the exact same way he played in college.

We should be saying things like Melo needs to workout with shump over the summer so he can improve his offensive game..But can melo teach??

smackeddog @ 5/26/2013 10:46 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Every one of our kid's is the next big thing
Sweetney -- Elton Brand in his prime
Lampe -- Dirk Nowitzki
Vujacic -- Nash
Fields -- Prince
Gallinari -- Dirk (We've had a lot of Dirks)

Why have you left off Mardy 'Walt Frazier' Collins?

nykshaknbake @ 5/26/2013 11:06 AM
I think that one should remember that Iman came off ACL surgery and was absolutely miserable for a long while when he came back. Those numbers are skewed a bit for that reason.
Bonn1997 @ 5/26/2013 11:08 AM
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Every one of our kid's is the next big thing
Sweetney -- Elton Brand in his prime
Lampe -- Dirk Nowitzki
Vujacic -- Nash
Fields -- Prince
Gallinari -- Dirk (We've had a lot of Dirks)

Why have you left off Mardy 'Walt Frazier' Collins?


I was only including the ridiculous, invalid examples
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