Knicks · George Karl FIRED (page 2)

Nalod @ 6/6/2013 12:11 PM
knickscity wrote:he really should just retire, career loser.

21 years straight winning seasons.

Im not saying he is a great man by any means but Knick fans calling that a "Losing" is pretty phuching funny in my book!

AnubisADL @ 6/6/2013 12:11 PM
Nalod wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Nalod wrote:Article said they parted ways, who said "FIRED"?

Dude pulled out his juice card and wanted an extension, and if you don't go deep in the playoffs you don't make big profits.

Thats the bottom line!

At his age and level of Chill they need or have in mind a successor. He might have wanted a big raise given his COTY award and quite frankly they just might think he is not worth it.

He might be a choice for the Nyets as well. Someone will pay him, but it won't be the Knuggs. Good move for him.

Im sure the terms were if someone picks him up, Knuggs won't have to pay? Usually works that way.

The first line of the article says he was fired.

Sources: George Karl out in Denver

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ESPN.com news services


NBA Coach of the Year George Karl won't return to the Denver Nuggets next season, NBA coaching sources confirmed to ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

Yahoo! Sports had earlier reported the news.

Karl, who is in the final year of his contract, wanted to extend his deal but the Nuggets balked at the request, Yahoo! Sports reported, citing a league source.


NBA coaching sources told ESPN.com that the Memphis Grizzlies -- who are still deciding whether or not to bring back Lionel Hollins -- will definitely discuss their job with Karl now that he's available.

One of the newest members of the Grizzlies' front office -- Stu Lash -- worked with Karl in Denver.

Sources said that the Nuggets, furthermore, have interest in pursuing Hollins, who just lead the Grizzlies to 56 wins and the first conference finals berth in franchise history.

The Grizzlies, sources say, have current Memphis assistant coach Dave Jorger and Karl at the top of their list should they part ways with Hollins.

The Los Angeles Clippers had engaged in initial conversations with the Nuggets about Karl, league sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com's Ramona Shelburne earlier this week, but had yet to officially request permission to speak with him.

Karl's reported ouster follows the exit of general manager Masai Ujiri, the NBA's Executive of the Year, who left the Nuggets to become the Toronto Raptors' executive vice president of basketball operations.

Nuggets forward Kenneth Faried reacted with shock on Twitter to the news.

He tweeted: "So we lost a GM now a coach what's next!?"

Karl was named the NBA's top coach after leading the Nuggets to a 57-win season. The Nuggets were the third seed in the Western Conference but were ousted in the first round by the Golden State Warriors.

It was the eighth time in Karl's nine playoff appearances with Denver that the Nuggets had been ousted in the first round.

Karl worked wonders this season with a lineup that lacked an All-Star, was beset by injuries to several starters and twisted its way through a brutal early-season schedule in which 22 of the team's first 32 games were on the road.

Relying on an old-school, up-tempo offense and a deep bench that wore out opponents, especially at altitude, the Nuggets led the league in scoring, fast-break production and points in the paint with nary a dominant scorer -- Ty Lawson led Denver with 16.7 points a game, which ranked 31st in the league.

They went an NBA-best 38-3 at home, winning their last 23 games at the Pepsi Center in the regular season and going 24-4 overall after the All-Star break.

Karl is 1,131-756 in his 25 seasons as head coach and 80-105 in the playoffs. In his time in Denver, Karl is 423-257 in the regular season with three division titles and 21-39 in the playoffs. Karl's 21 straight non-losing seasons tie Phil Jackson for the longest streak in league history. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

They must have updated the article. I copied and pasted.

yellowboy90 @ 6/6/2013 12:13 PM
why so much venom towards Karl
Nalod @ 6/6/2013 12:15 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Nalod wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Nalod wrote:Article said they parted ways, who said "FIRED"?

Dude pulled out his juice card and wanted an extension, and if you don't go deep in the playoffs you don't make big profits.

Thats the bottom line!

At his age and level of Chill they need or have in mind a successor. He might have wanted a big raise given his COTY award and quite frankly they just might think he is not worth it.

He might be a choice for the Nyets as well. Someone will pay him, but it won't be the Knuggs. Good move for him.

Im sure the terms were if someone picks him up, Knuggs won't have to pay? Usually works that way.

The first line of the article says he was fired.

Sources: George Karl out in Denver

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ESPN.com news services


NBA Coach of the Year George Karl won't return to the Denver Nuggets next season, NBA coaching sources confirmed to ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

Yahoo! Sports had earlier reported the news.

Karl, who is in the final year of his contract, wanted to extend his deal but the Nuggets balked at the request, Yahoo! Sports reported, citing a league source.


NBA coaching sources told ESPN.com that the Memphis Grizzlies -- who are still deciding whether or not to bring back Lionel Hollins -- will definitely discuss their job with Karl now that he's available.

One of the newest members of the Grizzlies' front office -- Stu Lash -- worked with Karl in Denver.

Sources said that the Nuggets, furthermore, have interest in pursuing Hollins, who just lead the Grizzlies to 56 wins and the first conference finals berth in franchise history.

The Grizzlies, sources say, have current Memphis assistant coach Dave Jorger and Karl at the top of their list should they part ways with Hollins.

The Los Angeles Clippers had engaged in initial conversations with the Nuggets about Karl, league sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com's Ramona Shelburne earlier this week, but had yet to officially request permission to speak with him.

Karl's reported ouster follows the exit of general manager Masai Ujiri, the NBA's Executive of the Year, who left the Nuggets to become the Toronto Raptors' executive vice president of basketball operations.

Nuggets forward Kenneth Faried reacted with shock on Twitter to the news.

He tweeted: "So we lost a GM now a coach what's next!?"

Karl was named the NBA's top coach after leading the Nuggets to a 57-win season. The Nuggets were the third seed in the Western Conference but were ousted in the first round by the Golden State Warriors.

It was the eighth time in Karl's nine playoff appearances with Denver that the Nuggets had been ousted in the first round.

Karl worked wonders this season with a lineup that lacked an All-Star, was beset by injuries to several starters and twisted its way through a brutal early-season schedule in which 22 of the team's first 32 games were on the road.

Relying on an old-school, up-tempo offense and a deep bench that wore out opponents, especially at altitude, the Nuggets led the league in scoring, fast-break production and points in the paint with nary a dominant scorer -- Ty Lawson led Denver with 16.7 points a game, which ranked 31st in the league.

They went an NBA-best 38-3 at home, winning their last 23 games at the Pepsi Center in the regular season and going 24-4 overall after the All-Star break.

Karl is 1,131-756 in his 25 seasons as head coach and 80-105 in the playoffs. In his time in Denver, Karl is 423-257 in the regular season with three division titles and 21-39 in the playoffs. Karl's 21 straight non-losing seasons tie Phil Jackson for the longest streak in league history. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

They must have updated the article. I copied and pasted.

Yahoo might have reported it but ESPN not using that verbage. Makes sense actually from both Karls and Knuggs stand point. I would imagine fans there are getting tired of the first round outs and perhaps ownership as well. I really don't follow them close but Im sure the discord will come out over time.

Karl had a good seaosn and wants to work a few more years. That last year on a contract don't mean a thing anymore.

Bonn1997 @ 6/6/2013 12:17 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:why so much venom towards Karl

For several bad reasons, these people believe it elevates Carmelo
knickscity @ 6/6/2013 12:19 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:why so much venom towards Karl

For several bad reasons, these people believe it elevates Carmelo

How would it elevate carmelo? I'd love to hear the logic behind this one...
toad @ 6/6/2013 12:22 PM
knickscity wrote:he really should just retire, career loser.

We really need to find a way to reunite him with Melo. They deserve each other.

tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:24 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
NBA Coach of the Year George Karl has been fired by the Denver Nuggets, Yahoo! Sports is reporting.

Karl, who is in the final year of his contract, wanted to extend his deal but the Nuggets balked at the request, Yahoo! Sports reported, citing a league source.

The Los Angeles Clippers had engaged in initial conversations with the Nuggets about Karl, league sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com's Ramona Shelburne earlier this week, but had yet to officially request permission to speak with him.

Karl's reported ouster follows the exit of general manager Masai Ujiri, the NBA's Executive of the Year, who left the Nuggets to become the Toronto Raptors' executive vice president of basketball operations.

Karl was named the NBA's top coach after leading the Nuggets to a 57-win season. The Nuggets were the third seed in the Western Conference but were ousted in the first round by the Golden State Warriors.

It was the eighth time in Karl's nine playoff appearances with Denver that the Nuggets had been ousted in the first round.

Source: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/934851...

I guess first round exits werent cutting it.

TOO Bad YOU CAN'T fire players..

oh well, Karl is a good coach, will land another job. Odd move by the nuggets... interesting to see where they will go from here..

NYKBocker @ 6/6/2013 12:25 PM
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:why so much venom towards Karl

For several bad reasons, these people believe it elevates Carmelo

How would it elevate carmelo? I'd love to hear the logic behind this one...

Any hate or love in UK boards is always related to Melo. It's like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.

tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:25 PM
Solace wrote:Wow that's shocking. They lost Gallo, which I think changed the series for them. But I guess expectations were high, and getting beat by the Warriors wasn't acceptable.

losing gallo was no reason for them to get outplayed the way they did tho. I must admit, Karl was out coached which really doesn't happen much, and his team was outplayed in that series, which hasn't happened much all year...

tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:26 PM
ActionJackson wrote:What....Gallo, Chandler & Moz weren't the answer???

who said they were, maybe they are doing a systematic purge, they got rid of most of the junk a couple of years ago.... I guess they want to rid themselves of all remnants of that era.. karl just may be a casualty of time....

tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:28 PM
Nalod wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Nalod wrote:Article said they parted ways, who said "FIRED"?

Dude pulled out his juice card and wanted an extension, and if you don't go deep in the playoffs you don't make big profits.

Thats the bottom line!

At his age and level of Chill they need or have in mind a successor. He might have wanted a big raise given his COTY award and quite frankly they just might think he is not worth it.

He might be a choice for the Nyets as well. Someone will pay him, but it won't be the Knuggs. Good move for him.

Im sure the terms were if someone picks him up, Knuggs won't have to pay? Usually works that way.

The first line of the article says he was fired.

Sources: George Karl out in Denver

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ESPN.com news services


NBA Coach of the Year George Karl won't return to the Denver Nuggets next season, NBA coaching sources confirmed to ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

Yahoo! Sports had earlier reported the news.

Karl, who is in the final year of his contract, wanted to extend his deal but the Nuggets balked at the request, Yahoo! Sports reported, citing a league source.


NBA coaching sources told ESPN.com that the Memphis Grizzlies -- who are still deciding whether or not to bring back Lionel Hollins -- will definitely discuss their job with Karl now that he's available.

One of the newest members of the Grizzlies' front office -- Stu Lash -- worked with Karl in Denver.

Sources said that the Nuggets, furthermore, have interest in pursuing Hollins, who just lead the Grizzlies to 56 wins and the first conference finals berth in franchise history.

The Grizzlies, sources say, have current Memphis assistant coach Dave Jorger and Karl at the top of their list should they part ways with Hollins.

The Los Angeles Clippers had engaged in initial conversations with the Nuggets about Karl, league sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com's Ramona Shelburne earlier this week, but had yet to officially request permission to speak with him.

Karl's reported ouster follows the exit of general manager Masai Ujiri, the NBA's Executive of the Year, who left the Nuggets to become the Toronto Raptors' executive vice president of basketball operations.

Nuggets forward Kenneth Faried reacted with shock on Twitter to the news.

He tweeted: "So we lost a GM now a coach what's next!?"

Karl was named the NBA's top coach after leading the Nuggets to a 57-win season. The Nuggets were the third seed in the Western Conference but were ousted in the first round by the Golden State Warriors.

It was the eighth time in Karl's nine playoff appearances with Denver that the Nuggets had been ousted in the first round.

Karl worked wonders this season with a lineup that lacked an All-Star, was beset by injuries to several starters and twisted its way through a brutal early-season schedule in which 22 of the team's first 32 games were on the road.

Relying on an old-school, up-tempo offense and a deep bench that wore out opponents, especially at altitude, the Nuggets led the league in scoring, fast-break production and points in the paint with nary a dominant scorer -- Ty Lawson led Denver with 16.7 points a game, which ranked 31st in the league.

They went an NBA-best 38-3 at home, winning their last 23 games at the Pepsi Center in the regular season and going 24-4 overall after the All-Star break.

Karl is 1,131-756 in his 25 seasons as head coach and 80-105 in the playoffs. In his time in Denver, Karl is 423-257 in the regular season with three division titles and 21-39 in the playoffs. Karl's 21 straight non-losing seasons tie Phil Jackson for the longest streak in league history. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

ok, so they parted ways.. that's fair, and more understandable..

knickscity @ 6/6/2013 12:29 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:why so much venom towards Karl

For several bad reasons, these people believe it elevates Carmelo

How would it elevate carmelo? I'd love to hear the logic behind this one...

Any hate or love in UK boards is always related to Melo. It's like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.

very true.

i wonder how memphis and denver would fair with a coaching swap?

tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:29 PM
Nalod wrote:
knickscity wrote:he really should just retire, career loser.

21 years straight winning seasons.

Im not saying he is a great man by any means but Knick fans calling that a "Losing" is pretty phuching funny in my book!

especially when they highlight camelo making the playoffs every year.. LOL...Karl has been winning since carmelo was pissing in his bed as a kid....

AnubisADL @ 6/6/2013 12:30 PM
Yahoo originally reported the story. ESPN just rewording it to sound different. George Karl was fired.
tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:30 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:why so much venom towards Karl

take a guess.. LOL

tkf @ 6/6/2013 12:30 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:why so much venom towards Karl

For several bad reasons, these people believe it elevates Carmelo

bingo... LOL

knickscity @ 6/6/2013 12:33 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Yahoo originally reported the story. ESPN just rewording it to sound different. George Karl was fired.

pretty much, he was under contract for next season.

Mutual parting....fired.

ChuckBuck @ 6/6/2013 12:45 PM
I still get a chuckle of Phil Jax trolling Karl:

Phil Jackson ‏@PhilJackson11 8 May
Congrats @georgekarl22, good season and nice run in the playoffs…very entertaining.

Even rings more true on firing day!

Anyone sticking up for Karl sticks up for extended mediocrity (80-105 in the playoffs.)

The Don Nelson of his time!

knickscity @ 6/6/2013 12:48 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:I still get a chuckle of Phil Jax trolling Karl:

Phil Jackson ‏@PhilJackson11 8 May
Congrats @georgekarl22, good season and nice run in the playoffs…very entertaining.

Even rings more true on firing day!

Anyone sticking up for Karl sticks up for extended mediocrity (80-105 in the playoffs.)

The Don Nelson of his time!


That is pretty awful.
Vmart @ 6/6/2013 12:52 PM
It's a good move by Denver to move on. Karl is a very good coach but he needed a change of scenery too. The West is very difficult to win in the playoffs it is dominated by Lakers and Spurs its very hard to get through. Regular season records I feel can be misleading and they do not always reflect what will come in playoffs. Some coaches are made for Regular season and some are made for both regular season and playoffs. Talent plays a role in it too.
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