CrushAlot wrote:Draftnet updated their mock yesterday. They have some guys dropping. Musicals is at 56, and Mc callus is at 52. Overdone is at 51.
The differences of ratings between the 2 major sites is quite evident and shows how this draft is unpredictable. Simply its over saturated with guys who are ranked very close. They have a comparison of SF/SG on Draftnet---the article closes by talking about Carrick felix who is the best transition player from the wing in the draft by numbers and easily one of the best 1-1 defenders yet hes not in their top 60 even though he is 6-6 with a 40 inch vertical and nearly a 40% 3 pt shooter. Thera re going to be players drafted at 48 potentially better than those drafted at 18.
BRIGGS wrote:Jmpasq wrote:callmened wrote:i agree with BRIGGS...mitchell = KMart 2.0
Is that a bad thing we are picking #24
He has a sick physical body freak like. When was the last guy measured at 6-9 240 with a 7-3 wingspan and a a nearly 38 inch vertical? Its like a Lebron James body. So will he play hard and play his role rebounding opportunstic shot making exploding on fast brek defense? If he can watch out--hell be a lottery type talent as a 4 man like a Josh Smith. If he can be a player like that--thats a nice pick at 24 I hope the Knicks can find a high 2 pick and grab a PG if we go big--we are desperate for a solid back up. A Tony Mitchell Isiah Cannan draft would make us much more athletic. I like both of their bodies for the nBA.
Yeah I know KMART 2.0 to me is damn good value at 24 thats what I was saying.
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 4h
Some draft scuttle: Rockets have been offered chance to shed contract of PF Thomas Robinson for first-round pick in next Thursday's draft
Apparently they would draft a euro so they wouldn't have a cap hit and then offer Howard a max deal.
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 4h
Some draft scuttle: Rockets have been offered chance to shed contract of PF Thomas Robinson for first-round pick in next Thursday's draftApparently they would draft a euro so they wouldn't have a cap hit and then offer Howard a max deal.
Thomas needs to be on a veteran team and be put in the post. I wish NY had a chance at him but they don't.
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 4h
Some draft scuttle: Rockets have been offered chance to shed contract of PF Thomas Robinson for first-round pick in next Thursday's draftApparently they would draft a euro so they wouldn't have a cap hit and then offer Howard a max deal.
We always lose when we trade with Morey- he finds a way (Dolan) to screw us every time- he looks like he enjoys it!
Why would we want Robinson. All he's proven is that he's quickly being. Say aside by his teams. Remember they Lso see him in practice
smackeddog wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 4h
Some draft scuttle: Rockets have been offered chance to shed contract of PF Thomas Robinson for first-round pick in next Thursday's draftApparently they would draft a euro so they wouldn't have a cap hit and then offer Howard a max deal.
We always lose when we trade with Morey- he finds a way (Dolan) to screw us every time- he looks like he enjoys it!
I agree but that was Walsh.
Best case scenario would be to come out of this draft with Mitchel and Kabongo.
Green room invites from a poster on nbadraftnet forums.
Via multiple sources...Nerlens Noel (Kentucky); Victor Oladipo (Indiana); Otto Porter (Georgetown); Alex Len (Maryland); Anthony Bennett (UNLV); Ben McLemore (Kansas); Trey Burke (Michigan); Michael Carter-Williams (Syracuse); C.J. McCollum (Lehigh) and Cody Zeller (Indiana).
Usually around 15 players are invited and these are some names in consideration...
Georgia's Kentavious Caldwell-Pope,
Pittsburgh's Steven Adams,
UCLA's Shabazz Muhammad,
Gonzaga's Kelly Olynyk
Greece's Giannis Antetokounmpo,.
I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Looking at the different mocks I continue to doubt teams ahead of us pass on Tony Mitchell. Brooklyn and Indiana could use a guy like Mitchell.
According to Berman's article in the NY Post the Knicks are looking for help on the perimeter.
I figure we are looking at Ledo, Franklin, and Snell. Ledo seems like he can contribute scoring off the bench next year.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
He looks like Tyson on d in his game film tapes. He also is a very good finisher on the pick and roll. It appears he only goes to his right no matter what when he posts up and spins. He was ending up behind the backboard and almost falling out of bounds on his tapes.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
can't be a bust that far down.
knickscity wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
can't be a bust that far down.
The last time we took a 7-2 French C in the first round it was a disaster. Using that mentality--Brendan Haywood is not a bust but you missed Tony Parker. So in reality--you busted. He looks soft has very little base strength/balance. He will be a fringe NBA player at best--see what Thabeet does for OKC.
BRIGGS wrote:knickscity wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
can't be a bust that far down.
The last time we took a 7-2 French C in the first round it was a disaster. Using that mentality--Brendan Haywood is not a bust but you missed Tony Parker. So in reality--you busted. He looks soft has very little base strength/balance. He will be a fringe NBA player at best--see what Thabeet does for OKC.
He is 21 and has been heavily scouted for several years. He was in the top 15 for a long time. He worked out for Portland with Steven Adams recently and they had good things to say about him. I think it would be hard to let him go past 24. Aside from Pau, Joe Johnson and Randolph everyone missed on Tony Parker. I am not saying there won't be guys that have better careers but that size is hard to pass up at 24. He also is smart, has good character and his father was a pro.
CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:knickscity wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
can't be a bust that far down.
The last time we took a 7-2 French C in the first round it was a disaster. Using that mentality--Brendan Haywood is not a bust but you missed Tony Parker. So in reality--you busted. He looks soft has very little base strength/balance. He will be a fringe NBA player at best--see what Thabeet does for OKC.
He is 21 and has been heavily scouted for several years. He was in the top 15 for a long time. He worked out for Portland with Steven Adams recently and they had good things to say about him. I think it would be hard to let him go past 24. Aside from Pau, Joe Johnson and Randolph everyone missed on Tony Parker. I am not saying there won't be guys that have better careers but that size is hard to pass up at 24. He also is smart, has good character and his father was a pro.
We already have a 7-2 C who cant play offense? This guy is 3 years away--this is a draft and stash type. Does anyone think he can play on the big stage in the nBA he wasnt very good in the French leagues. Also going by your arguement--why is he falling like a rock? If a 7-2 player was good--hed be gone by 24. Name 1 7-2 player in NBA history picked at 24 or after who was good.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:knickscity wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
can't be a bust that far down.
The last time we took a 7-2 French C in the first round it was a disaster. Using that mentality--Brendan Haywood is not a bust but you missed Tony Parker. So in reality--you busted. He looks soft has very little base strength/balance. He will be a fringe NBA player at best--see what Thabeet does for OKC.
He is 21 and has been heavily scouted for several years. He was in the top 15 for a long time. He worked out for Portland with Steven Adams recently and they had good things to say about him. I think it would be hard to let him go past 24. Aside from Pau, Joe Johnson and Randolph everyone missed on Tony Parker. I am not saying there won't be guys that have better careers but that size is hard to pass up at 24. He also is smart, has good character and his father was a pro.
We already have a 7-2 C who cant play offense? This guy is 3 years away--this is a draft and stash type. Does anyone think he can play on the big stage in the nBA he wasnt very good in the French leagues. Also going by your arguement--why is he falling like a rock? If a 7-2 player was good--hed be gone by 24. Name 1 7-2 player in NBA history picked at 24 or after who was good.
You are being kind of specific with height. The center that stands out as a tremendous steal was Laimber as a second round pick. (I googled it.)
CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:knickscity wrote:BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I am starting to wonder if Gobert falls all the way to 24. If so should the Knicks pick him? He is huge.
Bust
can't be a bust that far down.
The last time we took a 7-2 French C in the first round it was a disaster. Using that mentality--Brendan Haywood is not a bust but you missed Tony Parker. So in reality--you busted. He looks soft has very little base strength/balance. He will be a fringe NBA player at best--see what Thabeet does for OKC.
He is 21 and has been heavily scouted for several years. He was in the top 15 for a long time. He worked out for Portland with Steven Adams recently and they had good things to say about him. I think it would be hard to let him go past 24. Aside from Pau, Joe Johnson and Randolph everyone missed on Tony Parker. I am not saying there won't be guys that have better careers but that size is hard to pass up at 24. He also is smart, has good character and his father was a pro.
We already have a 7-2 C who cant play offense? This guy is 3 years away--this is a draft and stash type. Does anyone think he can play on the big stage in the nBA he wasnt very good in the French leagues. Also going by your arguement--why is he falling like a rock? If a 7-2 player was good--hed be gone by 24. Name 1 7-2 player in NBA history picked at 24 or after who was good.
You are being kind of specific with height. The center that stands out as a tremendous steal was Laimber as a second round pick. (I googled it.)
Hes Bill Laimbeer? Hes a slightly taller Dan Gadzurick at best--That exactly who he is--how many of these guys did you see on the NBA finals floor--answer NONE. You need skill players.
