Would he be a good fit? Better than Metta World?
MIller is done. Had great run. Time to go hunting where the dear and the antilope play...........
Nalod wrote:MIller is done. Had great run. Time to go hunting where the dear and the antilope play...........
+1
I would love him as a 12th guy ----- better than flight white lol
He actually looked pretty good when Lebron and co rested at the end bit of the season. Read on twitter he'd also hit 16 of 18 of his last two finals 3 pointers. I thought he was done last season but he surprised me.
The recovery from sports hernia surgery is brutal. You can't plant, running several days on surfaces other than a treadmill bother your hip. Sports like basketball and tennis are tough because there is so much stop and go when you play. I am not sure miller ever overcame it. He seemed to walk with a limp back to the locker room at the half or end of games when he played significant minutes.
How do all these well run organizations still have their Amnesty provision?
Meanwhile, the Knicks -- probably for whom the thing was created because they're so spastic writing contracts -- blew their load in the first five minutes.
I should start rooting for the Spurs.
Panos wrote:How do all these well run organizations still have their Amnesty provision?
Meanwhile, the Knicks -- probably for whom the thing was created because they're so spastic writing contracts -- blew their load in the first five minutes.
I should start rooting for the Spurs.
People on here are always drooling over teams like the Spurs and Thunder and saying how fantastically run they are, but they've won as many championships as us the past 6 years. And since people say nothing we achieve counts if its not a championship then they suck just as much as we do!
smackeddog wrote:Panos wrote:How do all these well run organizations still have their Amnesty provision?
Meanwhile, the Knicks -- probably for whom the thing was created because they're so spastic writing contracts -- blew their load in the first five minutes.
I should start rooting for the Spurs.
People on here are always drooling over teams like the Spurs and Thunder and saying how fantastically run they are, but they've won as many championships as us the past 6 years. And since people say nothing we achieve counts if its not a championship then they suck just as much as we do!
I never mentioned the Thunder.
And why the last six years? What kind of arbitrary cut off is that? How about the last 15?
5 NBA finals appearances and 4 rings. Does that still suck as much as we do?
Panos wrote:smackeddog wrote:Panos wrote:How do all these well run organizations still have their Amnesty provision?
Meanwhile, the Knicks -- probably for whom the thing was created because they're so spastic writing contracts -- blew their load in the first five minutes.
I should start rooting for the Spurs.
People on here are always drooling over teams like the Spurs and Thunder and saying how fantastically run they are, but they've won as many championships as us the past 6 years. And since people say nothing we achieve counts if its not a championship then they suck just as much as we do!
I never mentioned the Thunder.
And why the last six years? What kind of arbitrary cut off is that? How about the last 15?
5 NBA finals appearances and 4 rings. Does that still suck as much as we do?
Last 6 years they've sucked as much as we have!
Of course it's nonsense- what I'm getting at is this notion that nothing short of a championship counts, and I suppose for all the envy people have for certain teams (and I share it!), they've come up short just like us. Winning a championship is hard, hard, hard.
No just no I dont want Mike Bibby I mean Mike Miller
smackeddog wrote:Panos wrote:smackeddog wrote:Panos wrote:How do all these well run organizations still have their Amnesty provision?
Meanwhile, the Knicks -- probably for whom the thing was created because they're so spastic writing contracts -- blew their load in the first five minutes.
I should start rooting for the Spurs.
People on here are always drooling over teams like the Spurs and Thunder and saying how fantastically run they are, but they've won as many championships as us the past 6 years. And since people say nothing we achieve counts if its not a championship then they suck just as much as we do!
I never mentioned the Thunder.
And why the last six years? What kind of arbitrary cut off is that? How about the last 15?
5 NBA finals appearances and 4 rings. Does that still suck as much as we do?
Last 6 years they've sucked as much as we have!
Of course it's nonsense- what I'm getting at is this notion that nothing short of a championship counts, and I suppose for all the envy people have for certain teams (and I share it!), they've come up short just like us. Winning a championship is hard, hard, hard.
Those teams were built the right way and they are and have been actual contenders especially the Spurs. We haven't been a contender since Ewing left. If you think there's really no difference between the two - too bad.
If we had more roster spots, I would sign him. But he probably wouldn't play, otherwise.
He can still knock down the 3....
Built the right way? Puh-lease.
So building the right way is:
1) tanking for a season
2) hoping the lottery ball comes your way
3) hope the top draft pick is a franchise talent
4) take a few feelers on international players and hope they pan out
5) trade for role players
6) hope your team is healthy at the right time
The right way only works if you get the right impact player in the draft - and that's the foundation. Maybe it's worked out for the Thunder. Without the fundamental piece of Durant, the other pieces wouldn't have made sense.
Quite a number of teams are still in search of the right franchise pick. After so many years, Jordan's Bobcat/Hornets still haven't even managed a #2. And they've tried really hard to lose. A lot.
And look at Toronto - a cautionary tale. They got Bosh and a few years later won the lottery - they 1) tanked. 2) they got lucky. 3) but Bosh left (for less money) and Bargnani didn't pan out as a superstar talent. And hey, they signed euro talent in Calderon & Kleiza.
The other way to win titles is to get a key building block, then trade for complementary pieces. The Lakers have been masters at this historically. Miami did this acquiring Shaq to complement Wade. And of course, don't forget that the Celtics traded for complementary pieces for Pierce too.
SkyWalker wrote:Would he be a good fit? Better than Metta World?
Miller couldn't stay healthy and when he was, he couldn't even produce for a Heat team that got him WIDE open looks. Rather have a guy that can at least defend, even if his offense isn't there anymore.
pass,
he was good on the grizzlies but now he is not so good, 17 years in the nba? close to that? too many years, now you rest old dog
IronWillGiroud wrote:pass,he was good on the grizzlies but now he is not so good, 17 years in the nba? close to that? too many years, now you rest old dog
I guess 13 years. I wouldn't mind him in a Novak role off the bench. If we have room for him AFTER getting K-Mart, why not? We can use all the help we can get, especially since we probably will be injury prone again.
He's five years into the downslide, despite the steady 36 minute production.
Thanks, but I saw enough retirements on our dime last year. Not that they weren't nice and all, but go prep for your coaching career somewheres else, Mike.
If you hire the right people rebuilding is much easier.
The Spurs obviously got lucky beyond measure with a major injury and a franchise changing talent in the draft. Certainly luck when there is a LeBron, Griffin, etc in the draft. They managed to get Manu, Parker, Hill with late round pics and bring in guys that buy into their system.
Then there are teams that hold onto medicore talent and don't know when to rebuild. Charlotte is run by a guy that understand players, talent or the cap. Jordan drafted Adam Morrison over Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy, Augustine over Brook Lopez. If you have half a brain and don't recycle shit coaches, bad talent and don't reach on players with no work ethic things can work out well.
technomaster wrote:Built the right way? Puh-lease.So building the right way is:
1) tanking for a season
2) hoping the lottery ball comes your way
3) hope the top draft pick is a franchise talent
4) take a few feelers on international players and hope they pan out
5) trade for role players
6) hope your team is healthy at the right time
The right way only works if you get the right impact player in the draft - and that's the foundation. Maybe it's worked out for the Thunder. Without the fundamental piece of Durant, the other pieces wouldn't have made sense.
Quite a number of teams are still in search of the right franchise pick. After so many years, Jordan's Bobcat/Hornets still haven't even managed a #2. And they've tried really hard to lose. A lot.
And look at Toronto - a cautionary tale. They got Bosh and a few years later won the lottery - they 1) tanked. 2) they got lucky. 3) but Bosh left (for less money) and Bargnani didn't pan out as a superstar talent. And hey, they signed euro talent in Calderon & Kleiza.
The other way to win titles is to get a key building block, then trade for complementary pieces. The Lakers have been masters at this historically. Miami did this acquiring Shaq to complement Wade. And of course, don't forget that the Celtics traded for complementary pieces for Pierce too.
+1 A very nice, fair and balanced post. 
<-this is not sarcasm.
Historically, there are all sorts of right ways to get to chipland. Likes or dislikes are Coke and Pepsi. Try to keep the formulas in the chem lab. They rarely work anywhere else. Even spreadsheets get effed up. Anyone truly expects them to work in the sports entertainment business? Can't card count draft picks. Greg Oden says hello.
The real question you need to ask yourself, is do you really like blue and orange?
