Knicks · ReDecision (page 2)

Nalod wrote:Some of you sound like some timid scorned lovers afraid of commitment!

Damn girls, I know we all wanted the dude and he handled it awful creating a public relations nightmare but this dude is welcome to be a knick anytime he wants. We not talking Jordan cuz that legacy is cemented, but we talking about the best player on the planet at the moment!

Melo tried to get "colude" with Paul and if he did, you think we'd hold that against him?

Im sure we'd all rather the knicks man up and draft stars and brand them "knicks for life" and hold them icons if they are able to deliver us to the promise land. Jordan and Pippen were stars in a different era with different economics.

This is amazing:

Jordans salary with Bulls

1984-85 - $550,000
1985-86 - $630,000
1986-87 - $737,500
1987-88 - $845,000
1988-89 - $2,000,000
1989-90 - $2,250,000
1990-91 - $2,500,000
1991-92 - $3,250,000
1992-93 - $4,000,000
1993-94 - $4,000,000
1994-95 - $3,850,000
1995-96 - $3,850,000
1996-97 - $30,140,000
1997-98 - $33,140,000

After his divorce he is still worth about $650 million.

My point? Maybe in the present CBA Jordan, or Pippen would have left in order to get paid market value. NObody gets 30mm per and we talking 15 years after the fact!!!!!!

Back to Melo and Lebron.

Lets assume Lebron is a bit smarter so I doubt he is going to do another "The Decison" so the whole "Boo Hoo Im a knick fan......Fool me once shame on you.........Blah blah" is a waste of time. Those two want to collude in NYC thats fine. Rather here than with Lakers!

I would agree that Cleveland makes more sense as they should be pretty good in two years and he can redeem himself with the good folks in Cleveland. The prodigal son returns!

It makes sense that he will keep it all under wraps nice and tight to protect his brand, not protect knick fans emotions.

Melo is not on the same planet as Lebron. Questions of n a legacy do not apply to Melo. The best player on the planet colluding to win fake championships is weak

Nalod wrote:

sealy wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

sealy wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I personally think him going back to Cleveland is more plausible if he decides to make a move. I will say though that LBJ + Melo would be one of the greatest 1, 2s in league history. Plus, imagine what winning in NYC would do for his legacy

F him. I'd prefer watching the Knicks knocking out whichever team he's on...

You live in a fantasy land

Why? Did I predict the Knicks beating him?

He's the greatest right now, but guys act like he's unbeatable all the sudden.

If it wasn't for Pop's lineup blunder and Manu playing like manure, people would be talking about how the King blew it.

What you saw was Lebron nearly single handedly exerting his will to lead them to a back to back. Miami after Lebron is not that good. They were beatable for sure, but they didn't lose did they? Spurs nearly pulled it off, but they did not.

No one is arguing his talent level or even that he was MVP of the Finals and you just basically repeated what I wrote w/ your 2nd sentence.

I don't want him on the Knicks bc I think he's a douche, plain and simple. It makes it hard for me to root for guys I don't like him, even leaving out the BS w/ the decision.

sealy wrote:

Nalod wrote:

sealy wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

sealy wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I personally think him going back to Cleveland is more plausible if he decides to make a move. I will say though that LBJ + Melo would be one of the greatest 1, 2s in league history. Plus, imagine what winning in NYC would do for his legacy

F him. I'd prefer watching the Knicks knocking out whichever team he's on...

You live in a fantasy land

Why? Did I predict the Knicks beating him?

He's the greatest right now, but guys act like he's unbeatable all the sudden.

If it wasn't for Pop's lineup blunder and Manu playing like manure, people would be talking about how the King blew it.

What you saw was Lebron nearly single handedly exerting his will to lead them to a back to back. Miami after Lebron is not that good. They were beatable for sure, but they didn't lose did they? Spurs nearly pulled it off, but they did not.

No one is arguing his talent level or even that he was MVP of the Finals and you just basically repeated what I wrote w/ your 2nd sentence.

I don't want him on the Knicks bc I think he's a douche, plain and simple. It makes it hard for me to root for guys I don't like him, even leaving out the BS w/ the decision.

It's somehow easier to root for our 4 max/near max contract players who all suck and don't give effort on at least one end of the court?

sealy wrote:

Nalod wrote:

sealy wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

sealy wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I personally think him going back to Cleveland is more plausible if he decides to make a move. I will say though that LBJ + Melo would be one of the greatest 1, 2s in league history. Plus, imagine what winning in NYC would do for his legacy

F him. I'd prefer watching the Knicks knocking out whichever team he's on...

You live in a fantasy land

Why? Did I predict the Knicks beating him?

He's the greatest right now, but guys act like he's unbeatable all the sudden.

If it wasn't for Pop's lineup blunder and Manu playing like manure, people would be talking about how the King blew it.

What you saw was Lebron nearly single handedly exerting his will to lead them to a back to back. Miami after Lebron is not that good. They were beatable for sure, but they didn't lose did they? Spurs nearly pulled it off, but they did not.

No one is arguing his talent level or even that he was MVP of the Finals and you just basically repeated what I wrote w/ your 2nd sentence.

I don't want him on the Knicks bc I think he's a douche, plain and simple. It makes it hard for me to root for guys I don't like him, even leaving out the BS w/ the decision.

Melo was not loved as a nugget either by many.

Nalod wrote:

sealy wrote:

Nalod wrote:

sealy wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

sealy wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I personally think him going back to Cleveland is more plausible if he decides to make a move. I will say though that LBJ + Melo would be one of the greatest 1, 2s in league history. Plus, imagine what winning in NYC would do for his legacy

F him. I'd prefer watching the Knicks knocking out whichever team he's on...

You live in a fantasy land

Why? Did I predict the Knicks beating him?

He's the greatest right now, but guys act like he's unbeatable all the sudden.

If it wasn't for Pop's lineup blunder and Manu playing like manure, people would be talking about how the King blew it.

What you saw was Lebron nearly single handedly exerting his will to lead them to a back to back. Miami after Lebron is not that good. They were beatable for sure, but they didn't lose did they? Spurs nearly pulled it off, but they did not.

No one is arguing his talent level or even that he was MVP of the Finals and you just basically repeated what I wrote w/ your 2nd sentence.

I don't want him on the Knicks bc I think he's a douche, plain and simple. It makes it hard for me to root for guys I don't like him, even leaving out the BS w/ the decision.

Melo was not loved as a nugget either by many.

Well I'm not too crazy about him either.

ChuckBuck wrote:The King. The Chosen one. Coming to NY.
Yea, right. Deal with a cynical a$shole fanbase like us, with a chip or bust pressure plate hanging on his head? Don't think so.

Believe it when I see it.

Nobody but SAS is putting it out there. Its safe to assume you be able to stick you chest out and in a year or two when he does not land in NYC you can proudly proclaim "told you so!"

I don't see him teaming up with Kobe whose legacy he has to leapfrog over to even get a wiff of Jordans.

Melo does have to figure things out though. His legacy stands in the same arena as Glenn Robinson, Glen Rice, T-mac, and Vince Carter territory. He need to get to the finals to at least be in Barkley/Malone/Ewing status.

Times are different and either Melo takes a big paycut or he colludes with others if the knicks are willing to make space.

Im not worried about Lebron, Im worried about "ReMelo" and him extending.

That CAA conspiracy crap need to pan out for us.

This is a secret dream of mines, hope it comes tue.

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:The King. The Chosen one. Coming to NY.
Yea, right. Deal with a cynical a$shole fanbase like us, with a chip or bust pressure plate hanging on his head? Don't think so.

Believe it when I see it.

Nobody but SAS is putting it out there. Its safe to assume you be able to stick you chest out and in a year or two when he does not land in NYC you can proudly proclaim "told you so!"

I don't see him teaming up with Kobe whose legacy he has to leapfrog over to even get a wiff of Jordans.

Melo does have to figure things out though. His legacy stands in the same arena as Glenn Robinson, Glen Rice, T-mac, and Vince Carter territory. He need to get to the finals to at least be in Barkley/Malone/Ewing status.

Times are different and either Melo takes a big paycut or he colludes with others if the knicks are willing to make space.

Im not worried about Lebron, Im worried about "ReMelo" and him extending.

That CAA conspiracy crap need to pan out for us.

you forgot to add Chris Paul in the list

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:The King. The Chosen one. Coming to NY.
Yea, right. Deal with a cynical a$shole fanbase like us, with a chip or bust pressure plate hanging on his head? Don't think so.

Believe it when I see it.

Nobody but SAS is putting it out there. Its safe to assume you be able to stick you chest out and in a year or two when he does not land in NYC you can proudly proclaim "told you so!"

I don't see him teaming up with Kobe whose legacy he has to leapfrog over to even get a wiff of Jordans.

Melo does have to figure things out though. His legacy stands in the same arena as Glenn Robinson, Glen Rice, T-mac, and Vince Carter territory. He need to get to the finals to at least be in Barkley/Malone/Ewing status.

Times are different and either Melo takes a big paycut or he colludes with others if the knicks are willing to make space.

Im not worried about Lebron, Im worried about "ReMelo" and him extending.

That CAA conspiracy crap need to pan out for us.

you forgot to add Chris Paul in the list

Paul is not in that caliper to me. Its the hype behind Melo and him being on some pretty good teams that he has been singled out. Paul in NOLA had lower expectations. Generally Point guards are not expected to carry teams like the big guys.

Just my take.

Nalod wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:The King. The Chosen one. Coming to NY.
Yea, right. Deal with a cynical a$shole fanbase like us, with a chip or bust pressure plate hanging on his head? Don't think so.

Believe it when I see it.

Nobody but SAS is putting it out there. Its safe to assume you be able to stick you chest out and in a year or two when he does not land in NYC you can proudly proclaim "told you so!"

I don't see him teaming up with Kobe whose legacy he has to leapfrog over to even get a wiff of Jordans.

Melo does have to figure things out though. His legacy stands in the same arena as Glenn Robinson, Glen Rice, T-mac, and Vince Carter territory. He need to get to the finals to at least be in Barkley/Malone/Ewing status.

Times are different and either Melo takes a big paycut or he colludes with others if the knicks are willing to make space.

Im not worried about Lebron, Im worried about "ReMelo" and him extending.

That CAA conspiracy crap need to pan out for us.

you forgot to add Chris Paul in the list

Paul is not in that caliper to me. Its the hype behind Melo and him being on some pretty good teams that he has been singled out. Paul in NOLA had lower expectations. Generally Point guards are not expected to carry teams like the big guys.

Just my take.

Paul is hyped up as the best pg in the game and has had some good teams but has as much success as Melo maybe less but gets a pass I guess. Maybe it's all the work Cliff Paul is doing?

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:The King. The Chosen one. Coming to NY.
Yea, right. Deal with a cynical a$shole fanbase like us, with a chip or bust pressure plate hanging on his head? Don't think so.

Believe it when I see it.

Nobody but SAS is putting it out there. Its safe to assume you be able to stick you chest out and in a year or two when he does not land in NYC you can proudly proclaim "told you so!"

I don't see him teaming up with Kobe whose legacy he has to leapfrog over to even get a wiff of Jordans.

Melo does have to figure things out though. His legacy stands in the same arena as Glenn Robinson, Glen Rice, T-mac, and Vince Carter territory. He need to get to the finals to at least be in Barkley/Malone/Ewing status.

Times are different and either Melo takes a big paycut or he colludes with others if the knicks are willing to make space.

Im not worried about Lebron, Im worried about "ReMelo" and him extending.

That CAA conspiracy crap need to pan out for us.

you forgot to add Chris Paul in the list

Paul is not in that caliper to me. Its the hype behind Melo and him being on some pretty good teams that he has been singled out. Paul in NOLA had lower expectations. Generally Point guards are not expected to carry teams like the big guys.

Just my take.

Paul is hyped up as the best pg in the game and has had some good teams but has as much success as Melo maybe less but gets a pass I guess. Maybe it's all the work Cliff Paul is doing?

He gets a pass because he's doing everything he can to elevate mediocre rosters and his game is almost flawless. There's always room for improvement but there are no major weaknesses in his game. Melo was a very good scorer last year but was below average in all other phases of the game.

yellowboy90 wrote:So now it's the rosters that's been holding Paul back. Interesting.

I like CP3's game but I agree he gets a pass where Melo doesn't. Melo gets blasted for being chubby, but CP3 doesn't, Melo gets blasted for playoff record, CP3 doesn't (despite his being the same or worse).

It's strange, you watch CP3 play and he looks flawless, you'd think he'd have had better success in the playoffs.

yellowboy90 wrote:So now it's the rosters that's been holding Paul back. Interesting.

smackeddog wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:So now it's the rosters that's been holding Paul back. Interesting.

I like CP3's game but I agree he gets a pass where Melo doesn't. Melo gets blasted for being chubby, but CP3 doesn't, Melo gets blasted for playoff record, CP3 doesn't (despite his being the same or worse).

It's strange, you watch CP3 play and he looks flawless, you'd think he'd have had better success in the playoffs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have CP3, one of if not the best floor generals. But you rarely hear about what a coach killing prima donna he is also, or that he's also not the leanest point guard, little pudgey.

To Chris Paul, who basically told the Clippers that after they squashed the first incarnation of their Doc Rivers trade. Chris didnt like that. He let them know he was heading to Houston to team up with Dwight. And he wasnt kidding. For about 36 hours, Morey probably felt like all 11 guys in Oceans Eleven. You know what happened next: The Clippers blinked, the Doc trade got revived and finished, and the Clippers were offering Chris 107 million reasons to play for him. Crisis averted. The lesson, as always: Chris Paul runs the Clippers.

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:So now it's the rosters that's been holding Paul back. Interesting.

Now? No, he's played on badly run Hornets and Clippers organizations his whole career. He hasn't played with nearly as many all-stars, Olympians, max contract players as Melo has.

Interesting, I guess getting to play with Amar'e and Iverson is the deciding factor. Also, some could say Denver and NY are badly run so that excuse does not factor in with me.

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:So now it's the rosters that's been holding Paul back. Interesting.

Now? No, he's played on badly run Hornets and Clippers organizations his whole career. He hasn't played with nearly as many all-stars, Olympians, max contract players as Melo has.

To be fair, last years Clips team was loaded. Even back with the hornets he played with West (better than Amar'e at this point) and Tyson Chandler! The last 3 playoffs everyone but Melo has been injured- he's had nothing to help him.

sealy wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I personally think him going back to Cleveland is more plausible if he decides to make a move. I will say though that LBJ + Melo would be one of the greatest 1, 2s in league history. Plus, imagine what winning in NYC would do for his legacy

F him. I'd prefer watching the Knicks knocking out whichever team he's on...

I'm with you sealy. Stay away, Ledouche. We don't want you.

ChuckBuck wrote: