knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we here that melo is agitating for change or he walks?
oooooh the irony.
Didn't see anything in Isola's articles about Anthony but it makes sense that some would spin this against him. In regards to Isola, the guy has no sources and rarely is able to break a story because of the Knicks media policy. From his piece.
According to several sources, Dolan was also said to be, according to several sources. said a Grunwald confidante
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...Isola has complained on numerous occasions about the Knicks media policy and the lack of any flow of information. A lot of speculation and rehashing of the fact that Dolan is impulsive, irrational and often appears to be making moves for headlines. The move makes no sense. It doesn't appear that any explanation other then 'just plain nuts' will be given.
dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Damage caused by who? Dolan (I hope you're not talking about Melo)? A lot of those things you either can't blame on them or actually turned out well for us.
dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Dolan pulled the trigger, Walsh laid the plans, and supplied the murder weapon, but i really dont feel like getting into that anymore, the pieces have all been replaced.
Why is Fields and Amare on your list? Fields wasnt traded, he should have been in hindsight of course and Amare was a Walsh signing too.
As far as Shumpert goes, if he is traded, just bring back a player that is an upgrade and I'm good.
I like him, but there's plenty of NBA players that are better.
Monte Ellis/Brandon Jennings better?
What does Monta and BJ have to do with this?
CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we here that melo is agitating for change or he walks?
oooooh the irony.
Didn't see anything in Isola's articles about Anthony but it makes sense that some would spin this against him. In regards to Isola, the guy has no sources and rarely is able to break a story because of the Knicks media policy. From his piece.
According to several sources, Dolan was also said to be, according to several sources. said a Grunwald confidante
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...
Isola has complained on numerous occasions about the Knicks media policy and the lack of any flow of information. A lot of speculation and rehashing of the fact that Dolan is impulsive, irrational and often appears to be making moves for headlines. The move makes no sense. It doesn't appear that any explanation other then 'just plain nuts' will be given.
sorry but i had to rewrite my original post. isola is free from dolan's msg sphere of influence... which does not mean he doesn't have a good idea of what is going on just as anyone else would, such as a more respected columnist like howard beck :http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891...
isola has been banned from msg for speaking truth to power.... point blank period.
no other explanation than "just plain nuts" is necessary. this is james dolan we are speaking about. decent people do not last long at msg, only scumbags and lowlifes have staying power, including certain players... na' mean?
knickscity wrote:What does Monta and BJ have to do with this?
Those are the kind of players this regime has targeted in the past for a young guy like shumpert. Castoffs no one wants because of the Knicks salary cap situation
gunsnewing wrote:knickscity wrote:What does Monta and BJ have to do with this?
Those are the kind of players this regime has targeted in the past for a young guy like shumpert. Castoffs no one wants because of the Knicks salary cap situation
Ok, now I gotcha.
So far they've allegedly refuted all dealings involving Shumpert.
TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Damage caused by who? Dolan (I hope you're not talking about Melo)? A lot of those things you either can't blame on them or actually turned out well for us.
dolan is always the source of the bad, ultimately. but you can't say with a straight face, given http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891... that melo is merely an innocent victim here, having no ability to catalyze anything.
or can you? in my opinion dolan and melo are made for each other, they enable each others considerable weaknesses. where they are destruction cannot be far off.
have you ever heard of "malignant narcissism" or "malignant narcissists?" 'cause that is what has been going down here. a classic case in fact, plain as day.
marbury same
thomas same
mills likely the same
Maybe resigning JR when he needed knee surgery had something to do with Grunwald getting axed
gunsnewing wrote:Maybe resigning JR when he needed knee surgery had something to do with Grunwald getting axed
Gotta be something more recent, this wasnt a calculated decision, it was made in the moment.
Possibly or Dolan waited until after the all star game announcement so he could go back into hiding and not have to answer questions
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we here that melo is agitating for change or he walks?
oooooh the irony.
Didn't see anything in Isola's articles about Anthony but it makes sense that some would spin this against him. In regards to Isola, the guy has no sources and rarely is able to break a story because of the Knicks media policy. From his piece.
According to several sources, Dolan was also said to be, according to several sources. said a Grunwald confidante
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...
Isola has complained on numerous occasions about the Knicks media policy and the lack of any flow of information. A lot of speculation and rehashing of the fact that Dolan is impulsive, irrational and often appears to be making moves for headlines. The move makes no sense. It doesn't appear that any explanation other then 'just plain nuts' will be given.
sorry but i had to rewrite my original post. isola is free from dolan's msg sphere of influence... which does not mean he doesn't have a good idea of what is going on just as anyone else would, such as a more respected columnist like howard beck :http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891...
isola has been banned from msg for speaking truth to power.... point blank period.
no other explanation than "just plain nuts" is necessary. this is james dolan we are speaking about. decent people do not last long at msg, only scumbags and lowlifes have staying power, including certain players... na' mean?
I have a lot of respect for Beck and read his piece yesterday. However, I have found him to be quiet negative since his return to the Knicks beat with the Times and it seems to have continued in his new job. Speculating, and that is what he is doing, doesn't shpw good journalistic integrity on his part and I was disappointed again by him.
As one rival team executive said of Thursday’s moves: “It was all to keep Carmelo.”The same executive said he believed that, if the decision had to be made now, Anthony would leave.
Anthony is said to be agitating for change, for help on the court, for reassurance that the Knicks are capable of acquiring elite talent. If he elects to stay next summer, it will have to be with the confidence that the Knicks can land another star in 2015, when they are expected to have millions in cap room.
It seems like if you are going to call a guy out and say he got someone fired you should have a real source. If 'Anthony is said to be agitating for a change' is your basis for blaming Melo for a bizarre front office move then I think you table it and look for a real source. Beck seems to have found a target audience in Melo haters and maybe he is just feeding that frenzy a bit.
CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we here that melo is agitating for change or he walks?
oooooh the irony.
Didn't see anything in Isola's articles about Anthony but it makes sense that some would spin this against him. In regards to Isola, the guy has no sources and rarely is able to break a story because of the Knicks media policy. From his piece.
According to several sources, Dolan was also said to be, according to several sources. said a Grunwald confidante
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...
Isola has complained on numerous occasions about the Knicks media policy and the lack of any flow of information. A lot of speculation and rehashing of the fact that Dolan is impulsive, irrational and often appears to be making moves for headlines. The move makes no sense. It doesn't appear that any explanation other then 'just plain nuts' will be given.
sorry but i had to rewrite my original post. isola is free from dolan's msg sphere of influence... which does not mean he doesn't have a good idea of what is going on just as anyone else would, such as a more respected columnist like howard beck :http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891...
isola has been banned from msg for speaking truth to power.... point blank period.
no other explanation than "just plain nuts" is necessary. this is james dolan we are speaking about. decent people do not last long at msg, only scumbags and lowlifes have staying power, including certain players... na' mean?
I have a lot of respect for Beck and read his piece yesterday. However, I have found him to be quiet negative since his return to the Knicks beat with the Times and it seems to have continued in his new job. Speculating, and that is what he is doing, doesn't shpw good journalistic integrity on his part and I was disappointed again by him.
As one rival team executive said of Thursday’s moves: “It was all to keep Carmelo.”The same executive said he believed that, if the decision had to be made now, Anthony would leave.
Anthony is said to be agitating for change, for help on the court, for reassurance that the Knicks are capable of acquiring elite talent. If he elects to stay next summer, it will have to be with the confidence that the Knicks can land another star in 2015, when they are expected to have millions in cap room.
It seems like if you are going to call a guy out and say he got someone fired you should have a real source. If 'Anthony is said to be agitating for a change' is your basis for blaming Melo for a bizarre front office move then I think you table it and look for a real source. Beck seems to have found a target audience in Melo haters and maybe he is just feeding that frenzy a bit.
target audience? well as a writer for the NYT-- the paper of record-- the mandate is to convey a certain air of neutrality and detachment. maybe now that he is working for bleacher report the kid gloves are off and he has permission to speak more freely about the franchise and its constituents. he never had that luxury like araton, rhoden, and other senior columnists. that said, i look forward to hearing araton weigh in on this.
i don't like rumors any more than the next person-- cattiness and hysteria are just not my bag-- but as the saying goes where there is smoke there's fire. carmelo anthony has always come across as blithe and conceited, which are symptoms of a malignant narcissist. dolan? surely he is a malignant narcissist! has he not removed any shred of doubt at this point?
dk7th wrote:CrushAlot wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we here that melo is agitating for change or he walks?
oooooh the irony.
Didn't see anything in Isola's articles about Anthony but it makes sense that some would spin this against him. In regards to Isola, the guy has no sources and rarely is able to break a story because of the Knicks media policy. From his piece.
According to several sources, Dolan was also said to be, according to several sources. said a Grunwald confidante
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...
Isola has complained on numerous occasions about the Knicks media policy and the lack of any flow of information. A lot of speculation and rehashing of the fact that Dolan is impulsive, irrational and often appears to be making moves for headlines. The move makes no sense. It doesn't appear that any explanation other then 'just plain nuts' will be given.
sorry but i had to rewrite my original post. isola is free from dolan's msg sphere of influence... which does not mean he doesn't have a good idea of what is going on just as anyone else would, such as a more respected columnist like howard beck :http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891...
isola has been banned from msg for speaking truth to power.... point blank period.
no other explanation than "just plain nuts" is necessary. this is james dolan we are speaking about. decent people do not last long at msg, only scumbags and lowlifes have staying power, including certain players... na' mean?
You think Houston is a scumbag? Starks? Patrick Ewing, who I and others have met, is actually kind of a jerk. Yet he has no staying power with this organization.
dk7th wrote:TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Damage caused by who? Dolan (I hope you're not talking about Melo)? A lot of those things you either can't blame on them or actually turned out well for us.
dolan is always the source of the bad, ultimately. but you can't say with a straight face, given http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891... that melo is merely an innocent victim here, having no ability to catalyze anything.
or can you? in my opinion dolan and melo are made for each other, they enable each others considerable weaknesses. where they are destruction cannot be far off.
have you ever heard of "malignant narcissism" or "malignant narcissists?" 'cause that is what has been going down here. a classic case in fact, plain as day.
marbury same
thomas same
mills likely the same
Look, I'm not denying that Melo has some influence within the organization. Probably every franchise player does. However, I dont believe he orchestrated firing Grunwald in this situation. This was Dolan getting his buddy back into MSG. Nothing to do with Melo, in my opinion.
TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Damage caused by who? Dolan (I hope you're not talking about Melo)? A lot of those things you either can't blame on them or actually turned out well for us.
dolan is always the source of the bad, ultimately. but you can't say with a straight face, given http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891... that melo is merely an innocent victim here, having no ability to catalyze anything.
or can you? in my opinion dolan and melo are made for each other, they enable each others considerable weaknesses. where they are destruction cannot be far off.
have you ever heard of "malignant narcissism" or "malignant narcissists?" 'cause that is what has been going down here. a classic case in fact, plain as day.
marbury same
thomas same
mills likely the same
Look, I'm not denying that Melo has some influence within the organization. Probably every franchise player does. However, I dont believe he orchestrated firing Grunwald in this situation. This was Dolan getting his buddy back into MSG. Nothing to do with Melo, in my opinion.
Papabear Says
You ever wonder why some of these guys are still Knicks fans?? They hate the management they hate the star players or even the team. So why are they here. Every thing that's wrong with this team is Melo's fault. It's sick. And they repeat the same damn thing over and over again. Dolan owns this team whether we like it or not. It ain't changing. So its best for them to move to another team that they like and is willing to root for and that is any team who ain't the Knicks. 
Papabear wrote:TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Damage caused by who? Dolan (I hope you're not talking about Melo)? A lot of those things you either can't blame on them or actually turned out well for us.
dolan is always the source of the bad, ultimately. but you can't say with a straight face, given http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891... that melo is merely an innocent victim here, having no ability to catalyze anything.
or can you? in my opinion dolan and melo are made for each other, they enable each others considerable weaknesses. where they are destruction cannot be far off.
have you ever heard of "malignant narcissism" or "malignant narcissists?" 'cause that is what has been going down here. a classic case in fact, plain as day.
marbury same
thomas same
mills likely the same
Look, I'm not denying that Melo has some influence within the organization. Probably every franchise player does. However, I dont believe he orchestrated firing Grunwald in this situation. This was Dolan getting his buddy back into MSG. Nothing to do with Melo, in my opinion.
Papabear SaysYou ever wonder why some of these guys are still Knicks fans?? They hate the management they hate the star players or even the team. So why are they here. Every thing that's wrong with this team is Melo's fault. It's sick. And they repeat the same damn thing over and over again. Dolan owns this team whether we like it or not. It ain't changing. So its best for them to move to another team that they like and is willing to root for and that is any team who ain't the Knicks.
You're hardly the most positive poster here. I find it puzzling that you think you've figured out the cut-off beyond which criticism indicates that you're not a real fan.
The whole idea that we need to keep Melo happy is kind of funny. We gave this man the most money he could have gotten before the lockout and we are going to give him a max extension and further cripple our team. We will have Melo here until 33, 34 when he already is taking hits physically and suffering from them. He doesn't have the same body or work out routine like a LeBron or Kobe. He has been taking a beating for years and his body is breaking down. Since he's been here he has had every injury from knee to elbow. Not to mention that we still rely on him way too much to create off isolation. He's not a playmaker yet we give him the ball and ask him to make plays. But that's an argument for another day.
The point is that Carmelo wanted to come here. If he wants to stay here and win he should take less money. If he wants a max extension at 30 years old then he should start looking elsewhere. Giving a guy 60% of the money on your cap while being a mediocre team is not my idea of success. I'd rather rebuild than go through that.
TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:TeamBall wrote:dk7th wrote:knickscity wrote:smackeddog wrote:If Isola's piece is true and Dolan didn't think we improved enough over the summer, what the heck did he want Grunnie to do. We had a late 1st rounder, no second round pick, no cap space, one tiny MMLE, no ability to sign and trade, and every extra dollar of salary we aquirred would lead to a massive tax bill. Guess Dolan was the moron who demanded we try and get Monta Ellis.
dolan isnt a rational person, he wont think like that, what he will do is get pissed that the Nets are getting a ton of praise while the Knicks are being dismissed.thats enough for Dolan to react.
isn't dolan the same fellow who brokered a trade for carmelo anthony, gutting the team of valuable assets, and hamstringing the team financially for the ensuing campaigns? and now we hear that melo is agitating for change or he walks? let's tally up the collateral damage:
fields
gallinari
chandler
mozgov
stat
walsh
d'antoni
lin
grunwald
on tap is shumpert.
Damage caused by who? Dolan (I hope you're not talking about Melo)? A lot of those things you either can't blame on them or actually turned out well for us.
dolan is always the source of the bad, ultimately. but you can't say with a straight face, given http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17891... that melo is merely an innocent victim here, having no ability to catalyze anything.
or can you? in my opinion dolan and melo are made for each other, they enable each others considerable weaknesses. where they are destruction cannot be far off.
have you ever heard of "malignant narcissism" or "malignant narcissists?" 'cause that is what has been going down here. a classic case in fact, plain as day.
marbury same
thomas same
mills likely the same
Look, I'm not denying that Melo has some influence within the organization. Probably every franchise player does. However, I dont believe he orchestrated firing Grunwald in this situation. This was Dolan getting his buddy back into MSG. Nothing to do with Melo, in my opinion.
i never used the term "orchestrate" and that absolutely was not the meaning i attempted to convey. all anthony need do is behave consistent with himself, just like his vanilla game: blithe, conceited, narcissistic. he is surrounded by cronies and yes men and other forms of sycophants including agents, all of whom cannot but magnify his whims and create trouble or simply chase as much money as is possible and for what? to make him a rich loser, but with enough Fuck You money to gloss over any genuine care.
and guess what? dolan is really exactly the same. as i say, the two are made for each other. it really is high time more of my fellow knick fans come to grips with this essential fact. you can't like one without liking the other.
some knick fans may be in a bind over that, i figure. i see marbury, thomas, melo as basically variations on a theme with dolan at the infernal center of it all. maybe bill gallo if he's still around could make a dantean image with those four.
