callmened wrote:I think beno is more key to the fast break than those two. A pg to push the pace
Actually you don't need a fast PG to run a fast break. It's more important that the wings can get out ahead and the PG can make the pass accurately. It's great if you have a fast PG but it's not absolutely necessary that he be a burner. Beno and Felton should be able to push the ball if needed, but also any of these guards can push it as well. It's a good group of guards this year.
nixluva wrote:callmened wrote:I think beno is more key to the fast break than those two. A pg to push the pace
Actually you don't need a fast PG to run a fast break. It's more important that the wings can get out ahead and the PG can make the pass accurately. It's great if you have a fast PG but it's not absolutely necessary that he be a burner. Beno and Felton should be able to push the ball if needed, but also any of these guards can push it as well. It's a good group of guards this year.
Those 2 guys are finishers on the break. Our PGs for the most part are on the slow side. Having two young wing finishers will help the team--which was ranked last last year in transition points. One of Tim Hardaways best attributes at Michigan was his ability to finish in transition. A healthy Shumpert can do the same thing.
my overall point was that PGs are usually responsible for fast breaks by pushing the ball
but yes, i agree with the overall sentiment that timmy and shump excel in the transition game
BRIGGS you seem to be warming up to hardaway jr
rebounding is also important- and I think what held us back.
Your PG and wings can't get up court if they are deep having to rebound.
Then, we need a coach to tell these guys to run.
During the playoffs, Felton & Melo brought the ball up - and it seemed every time we were left with 16 seconds or less on the shot clock to actually run a play.
This^
Don't worry Woodson has mother 2yrs to figure that simple concept out. Who am I minding. Melo is starting at the 4 again
callmened wrote:my overall point was that PGs are usually responsible for fast breaks by pushing the ballbut yes, i agree with the overall sentiment that timmy and shump excel in the transition game
BRIGGS you seem to be warming up to hardaway jr
Hardaway JR should be able to help this team in transition and 3 pt shooting. The NBA game might fit his abilities better than college. Both Shumpert and Hardaway bring the Knicks athletic ability that we just have not had in previous years. We have more offensive firepower than last year.
While we saw the potential of MANY new guys tonight--Id like to stick with these two as the thread began. I know Shumpert was injured most of last year--heck hes not perfect now. But we have here two 6-6 200+ athletic players who can shoot and score in various ways. It gives us along with our main cogs firepower that we had no where near last year. We just saw glimpses of just how powerful this team is.
BRIGGS wrote:While we saw the potential of MANY new guys tonight--Id like to stick with these two as the thread began. I know Shumpert was injured most of last year--heck hes not perfect now. But we have here two 6-6 200+ athletic players who can shoot and score in various ways. It gives us along with our main cogs firepower that we had no where near last year. We just saw glimpses of just how powerful this team is.
This is why i've been so positive about this improved roster. They have far more legit skill and talent this year. I think people tend to forget just who we had on the bench last year and how Shump was working his way back most of the year. Shump, JR and THJ is a very high quality set of SG's. Shump and THJ are better in a team concept, which makes me happy.
I know LeBron is a pipe dream, but if he opted in for next year to become an FA in 2015, could you imagine:
Marc Gasol?
Melo
LeChump
Shump
Nickel Hardaway
That lineup is flawless IMO.
